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Old June 16th, 2017, 10:17 PM   #601
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He is just referring to the fact that of the 3 (?) stations shown above, 2 seem to be outside of the city center and seem to only have a huge car park, rather than any signs of urban infrastructure. Where are these places anyways?
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Check the link in my last post, also there will be 3 railway stations and 6 stops, you can see some of them in the photos i posted. The stations are somewhat outside the populated areas because i think that in the future they will serve also the suburban railway or something like that.
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Old June 18th, 2017, 08:04 PM   #603
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Green light for Trainose sale

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The case of state subsidies to railway companies OSE and Trainose is closed, finally opening the way for the latter’s privatization next month after a long wait.

On Friday the European Commission announced it was shelving the investigation into state support to the Greek railway firms, while Italian Prime Minister Paolo Gentiloni revealed that the agreement for the sale of 100 percent of Trainose to Ferrovie dello Stato Italiane would be completed in early July in his presence as well as that of his Greek counterpart, Alexis Tsipras.
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Old June 20th, 2017, 01:16 AM   #604
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The ones in the pictures above, posted June 16th, 2017, 03:00 AM.
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Old June 20th, 2017, 02:45 PM   #605
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He is just referring to the fact that of the 3 (?) stations shown above, 2 seem to be outside of the city center and seem to only have a huge car park, rather than any signs of urban infrastructure. Where are these places anyways?
If I understood correctly, based on the link in the post of KONSTANTINOUPOLIS, the 3 stations are Xilokastro, Akrata and Aigio. None of them is a big city or a metropolitan area that justifies the need of a train station located somewhere inside the urban area.

Populations: Xilokastro 5.500, Akrata 5.899, Aigio 20.422.

I do not think it is such a problem to have the station a bit outside. In fact it is much better like this, since there is more space to accommodate parking areas or other commercial facilities in the future. These stations are not meant to serve only the near by small towns but the whole surrounding area including other towns and villages.
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Old June 20th, 2017, 04:03 PM   #606
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None of them is a big city or a metropolitan area that justifies the need of a train station located somewhere inside the urban area. (...) These stations are not meant to serve only the near by small towns but the whole surrounding area including other towns and villages.
Well put, thank you. Indeed, that was what my question was about. How is the rural surrounding connected? Car only? Will KTEL stop at the train stations? Or at least a comfortable connection anywhere on this line?
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Old July 25th, 2017, 06:53 PM   #607
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Railway bridge T26 & Lianokladi station



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Εικόνα της ΣΓ26 απο το τρένο πριν μια βδομάδα


Και ο Σταθμός Λιανοκλαδίου
Thriassio Pedio





https://gr.linkedin.com/in/lukas-bobotis-0944ba12





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Btw, if anyone interested about similar projects in the country he can check the following nice threads:

ATHENS | Public Transport

THESSALONIKI | Public Transport
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Old August 1st, 2017, 09:21 PM   #608
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Athens Railway Station



Thessaloniki

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Lianokladi (Line Tithorea - Domokos)

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Stirfaka - Karya (Line Tithorea - Domokos)

2 very nice aerial videos from the area

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Old August 2nd, 2017, 02:36 AM   #609
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Is the whole line from Ska to Piraeus now electrified? Or only between SKA and Athens (Larissa Station)?

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Hi Carlos, this is the suburban railway of Athens. From Athens R.S you can go to 3 directions. 1) Athens center '- Airport 2) Athens - Chalkis (Evia) 3)Athens - Kiato (Peloponissos). All electrified. In the end of this month the Zefyri stasion will open. The electrified part Piraeus - Athens i thing will be ready this October. The network is quite complicated and i must check a map so i can be more precise.
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Old August 3rd, 2017, 10:05 AM   #611
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The map of the Athens suburban railway is right here:

http://www.trainose.gr/wp-content/up...om_07_2017.pdf
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Thriassio Pedio









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It was mentioned before, this is SKA (Acharnes Railway Center)







all photos are from www.ergose.gr
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Old September 4th, 2017, 08:30 PM   #613
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I saw some interesting news about the V250 in the Dutch press which I need some help with.
Last week a bus company was taken over by FS Italiane the CEO of FS Italiane, Renato Mazzoncini was interviewed about hte takeover but also about the V250 which they've bought from the Dutch Railways.

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FS Italiane is ook het moederbedrijf van Trenitalia, koper van de Fyratreinen die door Nederland werden afgedankt. Mazzoncini: „Die problemen waren beperkt tot de deuren, in de winter. Daar hebben we in Italië geen last van. We moeten alleen de kleuren aanpassen, jullie hadden het interieur oranje en roze geschilderd.” De Fyra’s worden onder meer ingezet in Griekenland tussen Thessaloniki-Athene. „Dat is een nieuwe spoorlijn, daar past een nieuwe trein op.”
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FS Italiane is also parent company of trenitalia, buyer of the fyra trains which were discarded by the Dutch Railways. Mazzoncini: „Those problems were limited to the doors, in winter conditions. We don't have that kind of problem in Italy. We only have to change the colors. You've decided to paint them orange and pink." The Fyra's will also be used in Greece between Thessaloniki and Athens. „That is a new railway line, which wil suit a new train.”
With Fyra's Mazzoncini means the V250 which were discarded by the Dutch railways after a lot of problems.

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Has some of you heard this news in Greece about using the V250 between Thessaloniki and Athens before?
I'm following the news about the fate of the V250 close but this information is new to me.
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Old September 4th, 2017, 11:08 PM   #614
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The purchase of Trainose by Trenitalia has not been officially signed yet (though that seems to be just a matter of time) so there are no specific details about Trenitalia's future plans regarding rail stock. So far Trainose has been using Siemens stock which is leased by the state.

In any case, the line that will be able to accommodate such a train will not be fully electric until next year.
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Old September 4th, 2017, 11:15 PM   #615
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In any case, the line that will be able to accommodate such a train will not be fully electric until next year.
Well those trains (V250) won't be operational ready at least before June 2018 when first are set to enter revenue services in Italy or at least this is what RGI is writing about it so everything is possible as those may be cheaper than leasing Greek rolling stock.
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Old September 5th, 2017, 08:45 AM   #616
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Those people have not seen yet what the weather conditions can be in northern Greece during winter. Certainly as much snow as in the Netherlands, which has very mild winters because of the gulf stream. We have not finished laughing yet...
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Old September 5th, 2017, 11:27 AM   #617
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Plus snow and the doors weren't the only problems. There were numerous, even with small fires, failing safety systems etcetera. Also, fixing the problems was a problem itself because all the trains were different because they didn't build them according to the blueprint, but just however they seemed fit. Good look searching errors in undocumented electronical circuits.
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Old September 5th, 2017, 02:46 PM   #618
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I understand Your concerns because V250 is frankly a junk which fact that from 19 produced by AnsaldoBreda eventually only 17 are to be used with remaining 2 already serving as donor for spare parts only confirms. Generally Trenitalia doesn't need those trains as those are suppose to replace much better Pendolino sets which still have service life to continue its operations ETR485 were produced in 1997 thus have only 20 years of service (from30-40 which rail rolling stock can last) while ETR600 is roughly 10 years old. Not to mention that Pendolinos have tilting system while V250 not so its travel time will be longer. The only fact that Trenitalia is taking over V250 is due to covering some big asses from heavy losses due to this botched business. So Trenitalia must take it regardless of costs and as it now seems there is option to ditch this problem to Greece. Here situation is slightly different as train operator doesn’t have its rolling stock which must be leased from state so why not to bring your own even crappy one? And basically this is the whole the story.
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Old September 6th, 2017, 02:35 PM   #619
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New progress video have been released

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And detailed one:

Kiato - Rododafni (Athens - Parta corridor)


Rododafni - Psathopyrgos (Athens - Parta corridor)


Thriasio logistic center (close to Athens)


Polykastro - Idonemi (border with FYROM)


Tithorea - Domokos (Athens - Thessaloniki corridor)
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As RGI informs:
FS completes acquisition of Greek national operator Trainose
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