Philippine Defense Forces

[Parchie]

Originally Posted by Mr Grey

I think its anti rust paint not really the final color. It would really look ridiculous to color it yellow as it would be a very easy target.

FYI, it's not yellow, it's green primer coat! Besides, color doesn't in any way make planes easy targets. Can you easily shot this down?

[gmaer]

Originally Posted by leofriends

c-130 on yellow color?

for me its better..

Base coat paint before the real camo paint is done.

Originally Posted by Arvor

http://www.defence.gov.au/dmo/asd/ai...AN-124%20a.JPG
An 124 transporting a Tiger attack halicopter from EU to OZ

The Sokols will probably be transported by a large Russian or Ukrainian antonov an 124 one or two flights would be sufficient to transport all 4 of the first batch whitin 3 days or so, at least i hope they use air transport lol instead of by ship like those extra hueys last year which would take two month's but i think it will be by air if it is to arrive next month .

What happens if the cargo plane carrying the 4 PAF Sokols crash thus destroying all 4 helicopters on board?

[Parchie]

Originally Posted by gmaer

Base coat paint before the real camo paint is done.



What happens if the cargo plane carrying the 4 PAF Sokols crash thus destroying all 4 helicopters on board?

Siyempre, total ang apat. Tapos gagawa na naman sila ng kapalit. Ibig sabihin, another long waiting months!

[915bungohunter]

darating yan as long gumanda ang panahon ngayong week dahil nag uulan

[Arvor]

What happens if the cargo plane carrying the 4 PAF Sokols crash thus destroying all 4 helicopters on board?

Well that's what shipping insurance is for ..., besides it won't really be PAF property until they are handed over which i presume will be in the country not in Poland so if something happens along the way the burden of failing to comply with a contract will be on the manufacturer .

Like Parchie said gagawa nanaman ng apat na kapalit on their cost, lol i guess it depends on the contract i hope they covered all the angles on that .

Anyway the antonov flight usually takes longer than a regular civilian passenger flight because they tend to take a break along the way so 2 or 3 days instead of a direct flight and these flight's usually occur without incident .

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nakakahinayang lang talaga yun time ni marcos may self reliance group ang AFP, ngayon umaasa na tayo masyado sa gawang banyaga... may nabasa ako dati yun time din ni marcos may rocket launcher na ginawa din tayo... parang lahat yta ng mga Marcos era R&D ndi yta na produce after marshal law... sayang talaga...

My theory is that "self reliance" was a cover for slashing the budget don't forget that the military budget as a % of gdp started it's long decline especially during martial law .

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USCG Dallas 716

In other highly interesting news :

Campbell said the US is considering a “reasonable” Philippine request also to transfer gear stripped from the Hamilton before it was handed over .

The US took the sensors from the ship before it was decommissioned, as well as its communications and electronics equipment, and close-in weapons system, which is used to detect and destroy at short range incoming antiship missiles and enemy aircraft.

The ship, commissioned in 1967, was transferred under a program that offers “excess defense articles” to foreign partners in support of US national security and foreign policy objectives.

Acting Assistant Secretary of Defense Peter Lavoy said the Hamilton had completed on Monday its first patrol in the vicinity of the Spratly group of islands.
http://globalnation.inquirer.net/253...arship-from-us

I have read somewhere another source from this report that the US has now agreed to return all the stripped gear including the Phalanx gun anyone read more about this for confirmation ?, it would be great news and it would likely mean that USCG Dallas would be handed over with all it's systems if true .

[d7beast]

Originally Posted by hakz2007

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Any season, we fly by Philippine Fly Boy, on Flickr

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Follow me by Philippine Fly Boy, on Flickr

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Fast Drop by Philippine Fly Boy, on Flickr

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Over Basilan by Philippine Fly Boy, on Flickr

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Huey on the go by Philippine Fly Boy, on Flickr

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Philippine Army Special Forces riverine patrol by Philippine Fly Boy, on Flickr

The formidable huey,..IMO, consider as the best PAF close air support yesterday and i hope until today and tomorrow for LIC operations,..modified to carry chain guns and 2.5in rocket launchers in its pods and as long as the rebels and the enemies don't acquire SAMs, it's a practical choice for close air support of our ground troops vis a vis troop carrier,..

[spearhead]

Originally Posted by hakz2007

1977 0121 Philippine-Made Hovercraft
From the Philippine Daily Express - Jan. 21,1977
by gorio_b22

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Holy caramba those were the old days when we were still being ruled by the Marcoses! Great find!

[waraywaray architect]

Originally Posted by spearhead

Holy caramba those were the old days when we were still being ruled by the Marcoses! Great find!

I think that no matter who the president is, these types of innovations should always be pursued by the AFP and special funding from Phil Congress should always be allocated for research and development.

[spearhead]

Ofcourse why not!

[nayki]

Originally Posted by ManilaBoy45

Here are some photos of the 4 Sokols as they are loaded aboard the Antonov aircraft in Poland, they should arrive by the end of the week ...

P.S. It looks like all 4 units will be aboard the AH-124 Antonov on just 1 flight ...

I just heard from the radio an hour ago that our new utility helicopters from Europe already arrived in Clark Airfield in which being subjected to inspection currently by PAF.

[Mr Grey]

AFP gets 4 new choppers
ABS-CBNnews.com
Posted at 02/15/2012 12:21 PM | Updated as of 02/15/2012 12:21 PM

MANILA, Philippines - The military announced Wednesday that it has received 4 brand new combat utility helicopters from PZL Swidnik of Poland.

Maj. Gen. Roy Deveraturda, AFP deputy chief of staff for plans, said the 4 choppers arrived at Clark Air Base Tuesday night. A Philippine Air Force assessment team is currently inspecting the shipment.

Deveraturda said the helicopters can be used for disaster response, transportation of troops and evacuation of the wounded.

He said the AFP is expecting delivery of 4 more helicopters in the last quarter of the year.

He said the Philippine Air Force currently has about 40 operational helicopters including UH-1H “Huey” helicopters and MD-520-MG gunships from the United States.

Boost of Morale

[peejay202]

The 4 Brand New W-3A Sokols From Poland Finally Arrived Last Night...




link: http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fb...type=1&theater

[ManilaBoy45]

Originally Posted by peejay202

The 4 Brand New W-3A Sokols From Poland Finally Arrived Last Night...




link: http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fb...type=1&theater

HEY, THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I SAID ...

[ManilaBoy45]

Originally Posted by leofriends

whoa!! that's great but its not enough for the Philippines armed forces... maybe more jet fighters..

Of course not, these Sokols will be use primarily for SAR and transport duties with the possibility of also being a night capable attack helo ...

[d7beast]

Keep the pressure!!!what ever the weather conditions maybe, night or day rain or shine!!! Pero un-armed sokols coming??? F@CK the rear echelons and the government officials who buy the castrated choppers for their personal effects!!!

Abu Sayyaf sub-leader falls

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By Bong Garcia
Wednesday, February 15, 2012

ZAMBOANGA CITY -- Operatives of the Criminal Investigation and Detection Group (CIDG), backed by police and military personnel in Zamboanga City, arrested an Abu Sayyaf mid-level leader Tuesday.

CIDG Regional Director Generoso Bonifacio said the arrest took place around 6 p.m. at the waterfront public market in this city.

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Bonifacio identified the arrested bandit sub-leader as Abdulhan Ussih alias Jeron, 28, who is staying in the village of Sinunuc.

Ussih was nabbed following months of surveillance operations on his activities.

"We have been monitoring him since November of last year," Bonifacio said, citing Ussih has a warrant of arrest for kidnapping and serious illegal detention.

Ussih is into “buy-and-sell” business, which authorities believed to be his tactic to hide his identity as an Abu Sayyaf mid-level leader.

Bonifacio said Ussih, who carries a P3.3-million reward for his arrest, is the sub-commander of Abu Sayyaf leader Radulan Sahiron, the oldest among the remaining bandit leaders based in the province of Sulu.

Ussih was reportedly involved in the kidnapping of 21 people, including 10 Europeans, nine Malaysians and two Filipinos, in April of 2000 in Sipadan, Malaysia.

He was also involved in the kidnapping of six members of the Jehovah's Witnesses on August 2002 in Patikul, Sulu.

Bonifacio said they have witnesses who are victims of the kidnappings in Sipadan and Patikul who executed affidavit and positively identified Ussih as among those who kidnapped them.

Ussih will be transferred to a detention center in Manila since the case he is facing has been filed in a court in Pasig City, Bonifacio said. (Sunnex)

http://www.sunstar.com.ph/zamboanga/...r-falls-206249

[KnightOfTheFlag]

Originally Posted by d7beast

Keep the pressure!!!what ever the weather conditions maybe, night or day rain or shine!!! Pero un-armed sokols coming??? F@CK the rear echelons and the government officials who buy the castrated choppers for their personal effects!!!

Abu Sayyaf sub-leader falls

| More |
By Bong Garcia
Wednesday, February 15, 2012

ZAMBOANGA CITY -- Operatives of the Criminal Investigation and Detection Group (CIDG), backed by police and military personnel in Zamboanga City, arrested an Abu Sayyaf mid-level leader Tuesday.

CIDG Regional Director Generoso Bonifacio said the arrest took place around 6 p.m. at the waterfront public market in this city.

Have something to report? Tell us in text, photos or videos.

Bonifacio identified the arrested bandit sub-leader as Abdulhan Ussih alias Jeron, 28, who is staying in the village of Sinunuc.

Ussih was nabbed following months of surveillance operations on his activities.

"We have been monitoring him since November of last year," Bonifacio said, citing Ussih has a warrant of arrest for kidnapping and serious illegal detention.

Ussih is into “buy-and-sell” business, which authorities believed to be his tactic to hide his identity as an Abu Sayyaf mid-level leader.

Bonifacio said Ussih, who carries a P3.3-million reward for his arrest, is the sub-commander of Abu Sayyaf leader Radulan Sahiron, the oldest among the remaining bandit leaders based in the province of Sulu.

Ussih was reportedly involved in the kidnapping of 21 people, including 10 Europeans, nine Malaysians and two Filipinos, in April of 2000 in Sipadan, Malaysia.

He was also involved in the kidnapping of six members of the Jehovah's Witnesses on August 2002 in Patikul, Sulu.

Bonifacio said they have witnesses who are victims of the kidnappings in Sipadan and Patikul who executed affidavit and positively identified Ussih as among those who kidnapped them.

Ussih will be transferred to a detention center in Manila since the case he is facing has been filed in a court in Pasig City, Bonifacio said. (Sunnex)

http://www.sunstar.com.ph/zamboanga/...r-falls-206249

d7 tanong ko lang hah...since your from Mindanao and has a greater right to have a say on whats happening in your region...do you favor solving the muslin insurgency problem ( all of them ) militarily (with military force like Sri Lanka did) or via peace talks? I mean for you on what you see and experienced what is the most effective method?....iba iba kasi naife-feedback ng media tungkol dyan, anyway sincere na tanong lang hah hwag sanang gawin issue...also anybody from mindanao can answer too

[d7beast]

Originally Posted by KnightOfTheFlag

d7 tanong ko lang hah...since your from Mindanao and has a greater right to have a say on whats happening in your region...do you favor solving the muslin insurgency problem ( all of them ) militarily (with military force like Sri Lanka did) or via peace talks? I mean for you on what you see and experienced what is the most effective method?....iba iba kasi naife-feedback ng media tungkol dyan, anyway sincere na tanong lang hah hwag sanang gawin issue...also anybody from mindanao can answer too

We need to solve the MILF problem peacefully, these people are very much filipinos I don't want to experience the same MNLF rebellion and war of hatred from the 70's,..pero kung ayaw nila ng autonomy ang they push for independence, we need to prepare for an all-out war with the MILF, as in budget for military hardware that will bring a fast conclusion to the war,..for the ABU SAYAFF and the lost commands, no tolerance to these criminals,..The MILF/MNLF has a noble cause, except for there independence bid which is unacceptable,..

[KnightOfTheFlag]

Originally Posted by d7beast

We need to solve the MILF problem peacefully, these people are very much filipinos I don't want to experience the same MNLF rebellion and war of hatred from the 70's,..pero kung ayaw nila ng autonomy ang they push for independence, we need to prepare for an all-out war with the MILF, as in budget for military hardware that will bring a fast conclusion to the war,..for the ABU SAYAFF and the lost commands, no tolerance to these criminals,..The MILF/MNLF has a noble cause, except for there independence bid which is unacceptable,..

But do the MILF look at themselves as Filipinos? or do they shun the filipino identity...

[absinthe_888]

Dumating na yung bagong birds ng PAF. Mabuti naman kahit paano bnew mga to at hindi second hand sa US. More choppers pa sana kasi laking tulong din nito hindi lang sa giyera, kungdi lalo na sa humanitarian ops.

http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx...bCategoryId=63

[juniordiscovery]

4 new utility helicopters now in PHL



FOUR of the eight utility helicopters that were bought by the previous administration under the Armed Forces Modernization Program are already in the country, military officials said on Wednesday.

Maj. Gen. Roy Deveraturda, Armed Forces deputy chief of staff for plans and programs (J-5), said four of the eight Sokol (Falcon) helicopters from Polish-Italian defense supplier Augusta PZL Swidnik have arrived at Clark Field in Pampanga.

“The four utility helicopters are being assembled and will soon be inspected by the Air Force. These are a great addition to our capability, and we hope to use them soon,” Deveraturda said.

source: http://businessmirror.com.ph/home/na...ers-now-in-phl