MALMÖ | Projects & Construction

[kenny_in_blue]

Clearly the place to take your date to..

[Markowitch]

Originally Posted by ch1le

ohh, im starting to really like that design now!

Me too! The Turning Torso has a unique design expression, which is hard to compete with. However, It looks like Malmö Tower is going to be much more roomy!

I think the hanging gardens could be the hallmark of this design - the integration of nature in the skyscraper is really cool! There is gooing to be a garden for each section of 12 floors. The gardens are going to be 3 floors in height and the first floor of each garden is going to be dedicated for recreation and a common area.

This skyscraper could become a design price winner just like the torso if the danish architects successfully integrates gardens and water - wow, what a concept!

EDIT: When you sign up on Annehem.se - one of the questions indicate that there is going to be a total of 60 floors!! Awsome!

[Markowitch]

A couple of skygardens can be seen in this thread
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=268717

The skygardens of Malmö Tower are going to be 100% behind glass - so they might go for something "tropical"

[onetwothree]

PS. Maybe I shouldn't be jealous on behalf of Copenhagen but I am.

LOL, I know what you mean! I just seems wrong to be jealous of Malmö (I mean .. it's Malmö!), but I really am

(all in good humour)

Looking great! far from the best I've ever seen, but it's got some nice features, and they can't all be TT's anyway

[staff]

Awesome stuff Markowitch.
Thanks for the contribution and welcome to the forums!

Where did you get ahold of the above images? Are you involved with the project in some way?

[FREKI]

Originally Posted by kenny_in_blue

Whatabout demand? Who want to live in the MT, they will just feel like TT´s bitches...

Plenty of Danes are willing to pay for that!!!

If it's rental with good access to the Copenhagen train I might be one of them come that time..
( although it's most likely out of my price range, even if it is rental! )



Anyway - congrets Malmo - you lucky bastards!


Atleast I'll now get to see scrapers anytime I'm on the beach!

[mlm]

I'm also starting to like the Malmö Tower more and more.

The shape reminds me a bit of the Köln Turm, just taller (it's "just" 148m):

[Markowitch]

Originally Posted by staff

Awesome stuff Markowitch.
Thanks for the contribution and welcome to the forums!

Where did you get ahold of the above images? Are you involved with the project in some way?

Hey Mr. Staff

Thanks for the welcome! I can tell'ya that I'm not involved with the project directly. However, they are building the stuff right in my backyard here in Kroksbäck! We have already experienced that appartments here has started to increase in price because of all the development!

The pictures I posted took some hacking to get (just changed a parameter in the url). I have already signed me self up as interested in living in Malmö Tower. I think that many others will do the same. Think of it - it's only one stop from Copenhagen International (kastrup) from which there is a metro directly to the heart of Copenhagen! It's also only one stop to Malmö Triangle with all the shopping'n stuff and close to the night clubs! It's a winner!

At Hyllie Central there are going to be a shopping center in direct competition with Fields! Full of cafés and restaurants. The Arena is also beeing constructed there! All buildings in the area are going to be build close to each other and the ground levels are reserved for shops and cafés. Let's face it! People want that urban feeling and they are willing to pay millions! So no more giant block buildings with no life.

With all these plans I think that Malmö Tower is going to be an easy sell! It's going to be spectacular alone due to its size... Tell me where to sign

[Swede]

Originally Posted by Markowitch

All buildings in the area are going to be build close to each other and the ground levels are reserved for shops and cafés. Let's face it! People want that urban feeling and they are willing to pay millions! So no more giant block buildings with no life.

One thing that bugs me about Hyllie (and most other new areas in Sweden) is the lack of density. Look closer, most of the buildings are like 4 storeys tall, not nearly enough to justify shops/cafés at more than half the corners - unless it's in the central part of the city with alot of people from other parts going there (and as I understand it, that's what the mall is for, few people will roam the rest of the area). build 2-3 times as tall and you'd get real streetlife.

/Hammarby Sjöstad - förort i ny form, inte utbyggd innerstad.

[Markowitch]

Originally Posted by Swede

One thing that bugs me about Hyllie (and most other new areas in Sweden) is the lack of density. Look closer, most of the buildings are like 4 storeys tall, not nearly enough to justify shops/cafés at more than half the corners - unless it's in the central part of the city with alot of people from other parts going there (and as I understand it, that's what the mall is for, few people will roam the rest of the area). build 2-3 times as tall and you'd get real streetlife.

Yes! I noticed that! There is not a single Café near Kroksbäck, but that is no different to many new developments in Denmark. I think that Malmö have taken note of the miracle of Vestra Hamn and it would be stupid not to apply the same principles for Hyllie Central. In fact, when one looks at the renderings they seem to imply that the neighbouring buildings are going to be six floors high.

I read somewhere that Malmö has realised their mistakes in Hyllie e.g. that the area lacks a center - which it will get now. Look at Lindeborg. Huge green areas and a center consisting of a church and an ICA supermarket. Thats just not enough to create life, so basically Lindeborg has a failed center. Kroksbäck is bit better of, because of the shopping at bellevue and its closeness to the city centers. Even Vestre Hamn can be boring in winter! Also the new Annested (the danish enclave) has no shopping at ground level - which is very sad!

To create life, people need to have a reason for being there. Shops, cafés, sport, entertainment and recreation. Looking at the very professional planing Malmö has done for the area - I would bet that all of this is going to be at Hyllie Central. This is so crucial for the success of the area! Billions are in play here!

Also notice how they are leaving detailed planing to the developers. The area must have many architectual styles to please the eye! Also crucial. People are not pleased with huge areas looking all the same.

[staff]

Mr_D,
Yeah, I suspect the tenants in Malmö Tower will mainly be Danish people, and that goes for the rest of Hyllie as well. It's at a key location in between Malmö City, CPH Airport and Copenhagen city centre - located petty much on top of a City Tunnel station.


Markowitch,
Thanks for the info - I'm quite confident that Hyllie is going to turn out great, despite it's location.
Great to have yet another Malmö forumer here - I hope you'll stay.


Swede,
Actually, I wouldn't really compare it to "most other new areas in Sweden", as Hyllie is being developed specifically as an urban neighbourhood with "inner city character". There will shops and stores at street level throughout the area, and most buildings in Malmö's city centre are around 4-6 storeys anyway (just like in Copenhagen), compared to Stockholm where the inner city buildings generally are a couple of floors taller.

The only things that makes it resemble a "neo-suburban area" is the location (of course) and the mall. Although, the mall won't be your typical suburban Scandinavian mall with ICA and Brothers stores. I heard designers such as Louis Vuitton and Gucci wants to set up their Malmö flagship stores in this mall (as opposed to most other high-end designers, which generally does it in the Old Town, or as Armani will - in the Turning Torso Gallery).
I'm not a fan at all of those brands, but it gives you an idea of what kind of "mall" it will be.

[Markowitch]

Originally Posted by Swede

One thing that bugs me about Hyllie (and most other new areas in Sweden) is the lack of density. Look closer, most of the buildings are like 4 storeys tall, not nearly enough to justify shops/cafés at more than half

I live just next to Lorensborgsgatan and all the houses here are at least 8 storeys. Malmö is a rather compact city compared to Copenhagen! Everything is close by shopping, service, jobs - you name it. With public transportation and bikes it's so easy to get around.

One thing I forgot to mention is that Hyllie Central is going to be the perfect breeding ground for commercial development. At Hyllie there will be room for the new service and tech companies of Malmö! Don't forget that Vestre Hamn is located behind the city center facing the sea. There is only a limited amount of roads to "feed" it. Hyllie Central will be much better suited for commuters and it will also relief the other city centers for increases in traffic!

To create life, its also importent to mix jobs and living so that there are a constant flux of people moving around.

[Markowitch]

Originally Posted by staff

Markowitch,
Thanks for the info - I'm quite confident that Hyllie is going to turn out great, despite it's location.
Great to have yet another Malmö forumer here - I hope you'll stay.

The only things that makes it resemble a "neo-suburban area" is the location (of course) and the mall. Although, the mall won't be your typical suburban Scandinavian mall with ICA and Brothers stores. I heard designers such as Louis Vuitton and Gucci wants to set up their Malmö flagship stores in this mall (as opposed to most other high-end designers, which generally does it in the Old Town, or as Armani will - in the Turning Torso Gallery).
I'm not a fan at all of those brands, but it gives you an idea of what kind of "mall" it will be.

Thanks! Glad to be here .
I'm no fan of malls either. I have seen to many of them: City 2, Hundige Center, Fields and the like. They tend to take all the "life" and isolate it inside. When closing time comes the area is just dead - no people around. It's a very hard task incoporating and extending an urban feeling with a shopping mall. The closest I can think of is Caroli, Hansa, Trianglen and Fredriksberg shopping centers. But if one plays the card right, then the flux of people should be diverted so that they will be bound to explore the street level shopping opportunities of the neighborhood. Now, this could work!

[Parzival]

Where can more pics of the new hyllie be found?

[staff]

Parzival,
Check out Malmo.se under the section "Bostad & Bygge" -> Utvecklingsområden -> Hyllie. There should be some info with images of the whole area as well as of the individual projects.

[Markowitch]

Originally Posted by Parzival

Where can more pics of the new hyllie be found?

You can check out the webcams of what is now just giant construction site:
http://www.vaverket.se/hyllie/

The shopping center can be seen at Wingårdh architects.
http://www.wingardhs.se/
Or at
http://www.hyllieshopping.se/

The arena
http://www.hylliearena.com/
And great renderings here:
http://www.parkfast.se/

Malmö Tower
http://www.cfmoller.dk/proj_vis_prin...ID=2177&kat=16

Fine photos from the air of the construction site in this pdf:
http://www.byggfast.com/System/FileA.../File_2167.pdf

[Parzival]

damn, everyhting is looking really good!

[Borgvik]

Wow, approved? This can only happen in malmö. The only think that could be better is that the two towers (TT and MT) would look better closer to each other, but we shouldn't complain though cuz we'll get the tallest residential scraper in western europe built here in scandinavia!!

[BrenC]

Originally Posted by Mickey_R

What is happening over here?! hehe... Is there a law not to write anything before you've posted the info and pics?! If that's the case please erase my post ROFL!

Might add some information that there are 6 newly built highrise buildings on the same block in Lund which is a part of "stor-malmö". Four buildings are from margretedal (view pic) and the two other are a part of Karlhög which will have a square too.

Here is a pic of Margretedal which is finised.


Here is the pic of Karlhög which is almost finished... but this is a render.


And also there are many other buildings being built in this area! All of this is just outside the city centre.

Mickey

Wow, Mickey. That first pic of the Margretedal highrises looks really cool! Where in Lund is that photo taken? I was in Lund around christmas and took some pictures of the houses but none of them became as good as this one.

On another note, (Maybe you guys allready know it, but I haven´t seen any news about this in the forum): THE PLANS FOR A "MINI MULTI ARENA" IN LUND IS BACK ON TRACK!!!
Previous plans were cancelled due to financial issues at th British company behind it all. Now however, "Lund's own Percy Nilsson", Arne Paulsson has picked up the plans. CONSTRUCTIONS ARE DUE TO START NEXT MONTH.

[virgule82]

Seems like Malmo has some great buildings. One question though: How does it all fit together? There's no point in having amazing skyscrapers if the planning is not coherent.