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Old January 9th, 2008, 03:11 PM   #101
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Old January 9th, 2008, 03:11 PM   #102
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ohhh, looks serious now, because it is not the project of Trabzonspor club anymore. Government and Sport General Directorship announced it.

50.000 ppl stadium and will be finished till 2011.

I hope so.

And do they want 12 cities for EURO from now on?
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Old January 9th, 2008, 03:12 PM   #103
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i think 10 and 2 reserve stadiums
does anybody have a pic of the first 28.000 project?
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Old January 9th, 2008, 03:30 PM   #104
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do you mean this one? This is dead project...

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Old January 9th, 2008, 03:37 PM   #105
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Yes. thanks
Already found the bigger one

I hope they will return the stadium into a football arena later.
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Old January 9th, 2008, 03:40 PM   #106
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no way... an athletics stadium is the best. Because we don't have enough proper athletic stadiums in Turkey. God traked stadiums are small like Caferağa. Biggers don't have legal size tracks. Just Izmir and Istanbul Olympics are international class athletism stadiums that Izmir needs modernization.
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We do not need big athletic stadiums
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Old January 9th, 2008, 04:14 PM   #108
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we need... We need more athletes, and atheltism and every complex about it. Look at Germany, France , america and other countries. 10 million Greeks have more better athlets than us because they have many complex and athletism stadiums. Look even a small city like Larisa will host mediteranean games, although Athens had Olympics soon. Mersin , a bigger city lost.
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Actually Germany has got only the Berlin Olympic stadium
We do not need big stadiums with athtelitc tracks, because the athletes train in smaller stadiums like for example Kasimpasa or in really smaller ones.
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Old January 9th, 2008, 04:48 PM   #110
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Stutgard, Munic ect
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Old January 9th, 2008, 04:50 PM   #111
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Stuttgart futbol stadi olacak 2010dan sonra
Münih ise tarihi eser, tam böyle kalmali
dedigim gibi, genelde sadece 1 tane büyük atletizim stadi olur bir ülkede
antremanlar icin kücük stadyumlar
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Old January 9th, 2008, 05:05 PM   #112
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Japonya??? İspanya??? Amerika??? Yunanistan???
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Old January 9th, 2008, 05:09 PM   #113
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Japonya futbol ülkesi degil
Ispanyada büyük atletizim stadi yokki esas.
Barcelondaki ve Sevilladaki bos...kimse kullanmiyor
Amerikada ayni esas
kücük stadyumlarda antreman yapiyorlar daha cok
US meeting seyleri (olimpiyatlar icin) kücük stadyumlarda
Yunanistan iste dandik dandik bosbosuna büyük atletizm stadlari yapiyor
50.000 kisilik büyük atletizm stadi yerine ben 1000 tane kücük (0-5.000 kisilik) stadyumlar tercih ederim
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Old January 9th, 2008, 05:15 PM   #114
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Japonya spor ülkesi ama...

Barcelona, Sevilla golden league de doluyor. Bir de San sebastian var. Tama Amerika küçük stadyumlarda atreman yapıyor ama büyük stadyumlarda turnuva. Atletizm kültürü oluştururu böyle stadlar ve bu bizde yok. Gördüğüm kadarıyla sende de yok
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Old January 9th, 2008, 05:19 PM   #115
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Biliyorum, ama bizde iste Istanbula ve mak. Izmire yeter.
Trabzonda ne is var.
Londra bile Olimpiyat stadini 80.000den 25.000e indrcek.

San Sebastiandaki futbol stadi olacak.

Futbol ana spor olan bir sehirde futbol stadi olmali.
Böyle büyük organizasyon icin ya Istanbul yada Paris gibi büyük milli stadin olmali, yada Londra gibi daha sonra kücült
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Old January 9th, 2008, 05:41 PM   #116
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Bence Trabzon´da böyle bir uygulama yapilmali:


- City of Manchester Stadium, Ingiltere:


2002 - Commonwealth oyunları için yapılan atletik stadyumu (38.000 kişilik):





2004 - Commonwealth oyunları sonrasında futbol stadyumu (48.000 kisilik):





Fotograflarda gördügümüz stadin böyle bir uygulama ile futbol stadina cevirilebilir!

Ve stadin yanindaki bina spor salonumu olacak?
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Old January 9th, 2008, 05:54 PM   #117
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Baska bir uygulama:


- Stade de France, Paris

Atletik Stadyum (70.000 kisilik): http://www.fraikin.net/paris2003/sta...eroeffnung.jpg

Futbol Stadyum (80.000 kisilik): http://www.weblo.com/asset_images/or...76e7402316.jpg

Tribün degisimi: http://www.esj-lille.fr/atelier/maga...tribunesdf.jpg
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Old January 9th, 2008, 06:04 PM   #118
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City of Manchester Stadyumu bu hale getirilirken kale arkalarının %80 yıkılıp yeniden yapıldı ! (Eğrilik yarıçapı ingiliz stadyumlarına uygun değildi! ) Bu tip uygulama herzaman başarılı olmuyor! Örneğin BJK İnönü Stadyumunun kale arkalarının eğrilik yarıçapı çok küçük olduğu için , kale arkaları oval kaldı !

Trabzona yapılan stadyumun futbol stadyumu olması taraftarıyım! Olimpik stadyumlar artık tüm dünyada modernize ediliyor ve Sercan'ın da dediği gibi bir ülkede sadece bir tane "kaliteli" olimpiyat stadumu yapılıyor!

Yaptıktan sonra küçültme de iyi bir düşünce ancak herhangi bir organizasyona ev sahipliği yapmayacaksa önceden küçük yapılmalı! (Sydney'deki stadyumda sonradan küçültüldü!)

Bir de artık türkiyede stadyumların tribün haricindeki saha içlerindeki görsellik öğelerinede önem verilmeli.. Yani Bundesliga'daki standartları biz de koyabilmeliyiz! Buna reklam panoları ölçüsü ve kale fileleri dahil! Bizim akıllılar Ankara 19 Mayıs Stadının tartan pistine sıcak asfalt dökdükten sonra, benim bunların yapılacağına pek inancım kalmıyor!
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Old January 9th, 2008, 06:23 PM   #119
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City of Manchester Stadyumu bu hale getirilirken kale arkalarının %80 yıkılıp yeniden yapıldı ! (Eğrilik yarıçapı ingiliz stadyumlarına uygun değildi! ) Bu tip uygulama herzaman başarılı olmuyor! Örneğin BJK İnönü Stadyumunun kale arkalarının eğrilik yarıçapı çok küçük olduğu için , kale arkaları oval kaldı!
Söyledigin yanlis! Cünkü hic bir tribün yikilmadi, sadece bir taraftaki kale arka portatif tribünleri kaldirildi ve onun yerine normal tribünler insaa edildi ve oyun sahasi kaydirildi!

Bu resimde bu uygulamayi görebilirsin:

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Old January 9th, 2008, 06:31 PM   #120
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Vallahi bana göre ManCity stadi en iyisi olur


Sydneyde ise degisik model yapirldi
kale arkalari 2. katliydi ve daha sonra yikildi
Kapasite 114.000den 83.000e düstü
http://www.ryu.titech.ac.jp/~ysep/st...es/64c-big.jpg

http://www.fussballtempel.net/ofc/AU...ustralia_A.jpg


Ama 1. kati bile degisebiliyor
rectangular (83.500)
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...m_at_Night.JPG


oval (81.500)
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...um-Oct2005.jpg
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