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View Poll Results: Which proposal is the best
Design A 78 32.91%
Design B 6 2.53%
Design C 42 17.72%
Design D 95 40.08%
None of them 16 6.75%
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Old March 30th, 2007, 05:36 AM   #21
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Pesonally prefer the D's building, but B's landscape.
The junk is an icon of HK, the building fits in the icon and sailing on the harbour.

B's landscaping is awesome, a lot of water (probably too much) and green. We need something like that in the concrete jungle.
I agree with that. "D" is a gorgeous building while "B" does have good landscaping. I guess they'll have to import/transplant quite a few trees for that project.
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Old March 30th, 2007, 08:53 AM   #22
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D would be fantastic it would create another icon for hong kong and the architecture reflects hong kong .At the moment there really arent any buildings that stand out beside ifc
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Old March 30th, 2007, 07:20 PM   #23
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A is a bit too much, and looks like CCTV already UC in Beijing. C is interesting .. stands out yet not too extraordinary.
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Old March 30th, 2007, 07:55 PM   #24
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I think D is too extravagant for a government building. It would be fine for a commerical building...Also the ventilation system in proposal D is not quite good at all. The building complete blocks the highrises behind. Maybe A is better
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Old March 30th, 2007, 10:24 PM   #25
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This is the building that houses the government and the LegCo, so the design should cohere the functions and image of the government.

A: I think it is the most suitable design among all proposals. It has this grand and dignified image for a government headquarter. And the LegCo section looks like a scaled down version of UN headquarter. The open and transparent images are something that the government should look for. If they somehow can make the arch looks more symmetric instead of this strange “17” shape, it will appear more as the focus and balance point of the two major building clusters on the left (Wanchai) and reight (Central) sides of the panorama.


La grande arch, Paris


B: It looks like a hospital.



C: The design of the main building is quite good. However, the layout is weird and the design of the LegCo chamber is weak. Pay attention on how strangely they squeezed the main bureau tower and the Legco complex on one side and place the small CE office on the other side.



D: It will be a perfect design for a casino in Macau or a hotel in Dubai. But the image of old junk doesn’t fit the image of the government. And the layout of the design is relatively chaotic. Finally, the sphere looks a bit tricky and it may look as bad as these of the Shanghai International Convention Center.


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Old March 30th, 2007, 11:09 PM   #26
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I think HK got three good alternatives in a, c and d
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Old March 31st, 2007, 01:40 AM   #27
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Pictures of the exhibition by 久 地 遊 覽 (leomak) from http://hk-place.com/vp.php?board=1&id=2346-14

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Old March 31st, 2007, 04:59 AM   #28
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What I find most appalling about a lot of these "western" architects, is when they come do work in the rest of the world, invariably they will seize on some simplistic icon to base their design on, and they immediately will call it "being sensitive to local culture".

Other than being the tourism logo, appearing on a few old postcards and being the subject of all those aweful oil paintings that you find all over Tsim Sha Tsui, what does the "junk" have to do with Hong Kong, it's people and it's culture anymore? And to use it as the concept of their design shows nothing but the designer's own shallowness and insensitivity.

Needless to say I think Liebskind's design is the worst of the 4. The one that I thin is best is A, which if I am not mistaken, is a Rocco design and going back to my point about sensitivity and cultural icon, all one needs to look at for a good example of a good uses of an icon is Rocco's design for the Guangzhou Museum. Rocco's design most of the time is much better than the stuff from a lot of these so called "starchitects".
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Old March 31st, 2007, 05:17 AM   #29
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^ maybe they should design a building inspired by street-side spicy fish-balls... the most uniquely Hong Kong thing you can find... or bowl of shark fin... mmm....
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Old March 31st, 2007, 06:18 AM   #30
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Best design for HK - $, Dollar sign builing. That's what Hong Kong known for, too. No history, no heritage, no politic, no nothing, but money. All we care about is $. What else can be a better iconic building that an actual dollar sign building? Money has to do with people in every aspect everyday. Why no architect come up with something like that?
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Old March 31st, 2007, 08:52 AM   #31
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$ sign for a gov't building... hmm
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Old March 31st, 2007, 10:01 AM   #32
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Best design for HK - $, Dollar sign builing. That's what Hong Kong known for, too. No history, no heritage, no politic, no nothing, but money. All we care about is $. What else can be a better iconic building that an actual dollar sign building? Money has to do with people in every aspect everyday. Why no architect come up with something like that?
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Old March 31st, 2007, 10:04 AM   #33
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i think the direct iconography of a junk for a government building doesnt suit well for long term and national purposes. also, the junk relationship is just skin deep, its just the facade and these diagonal transoms running at an angle to your normal rectilinear and euclidean curtain wall system, when viewed from the inside you see this wayward strip across your office space.

design D howwver would look nice as a cultural project / building... not a government one...
the landscape of the desgn D is exciting though.

so design A is rocco yim, B is aedas, D is libeskind, so who is the lead design architect for design C?
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Old March 31st, 2007, 01:26 PM   #34
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i think the direct iconography of a junk for a government building doesnt suit well for long term and national purposes. also, the junk relationship is just skin deep, its just the facade and these diagonal transoms running at an angle to your normal rectilinear and euclidean curtain wall system, when viewed from the inside you see this wayward strip across your office space.

design D howwver would look nice as a cultural project / building... not a government one...
the landscape of the desgn D is exciting though.

so design A is rocco yim, B is aedas, D is libeskind, so who is the lead design architect for design C?
Libeskind is only the 'conceptual' designer of the scheme which potentially only involves the placing of the mass and deciding the height of the blocks. and as far as i understand from these panels, the buildings are actually designed by ASD (architectural service department of the hk government).

clearly, those buildings show very little resemblance to other libeskind buildings! ><
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Old March 31st, 2007, 01:27 PM   #35
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and proposal C is designed by local collaborations between P&T and Simon Kwan i think! ><
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Old March 31st, 2007, 02:04 PM   #36
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I like very much the D, this desing would be built I thing
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Old March 31st, 2007, 04:19 PM   #37
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Maybe they should rebuild the GPO instead.
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Best design for HK - $, Dollar sign builing. That's what Hong Kong known for, too. No history, no heritage, no politic, no nothing, but money. All we care about is $. What else can be a better iconic building that an actual dollar sign building? Money has to do with people in every aspect everyday. Why no architect come up with something like that?
This is the MOST FUNNIST reply that I've ever seen!!! But what you said "No history, no heritage, no politic, no nothing, but money. All we care about is $." are incorrect. In Fact, HK has at least 6000 years in human history! Also, NOT all the people just care $$$, they also care the others!

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Maybe they should rebuild the GPO instead.
I agree the GPO in Central has to be rebuild and much better to relocate because of the small size within the highest landprice place. The problem is that there is already another purpose of this land use.
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Old March 31st, 2007, 05:01 PM   #39
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Notice that Tamar isn't marked for a huge skyscraper. One can be built, but it'll come with a lot of explaining to do. Since the site is fairly large, a tall building along with a short building like a GPO recreation can definitely fit together. The GPO can then be a recreational facility or museum for the community to enjoy. After all, the government works for the people. Such a facility would achieve that objective.
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Old March 31st, 2007, 05:11 PM   #40
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Design A is magnificent. What a classy structure! The references to CCTV and Grande Arche are there, yes, but it is still original in its own context. The landscaping is also perfect. A vast expanse of open greenery in the middle of HK is hard to come by and will provide amazing vista's of the skyline. And the night lighting is absolutely beautiful.
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