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Old January 11th, 2008, 04:30 AM   #161
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Public in favour of rejected Sail design
Legislators question delay in revealing people's preference for Tamar theme

11 January 2008
South China Morning Post

It's official: the public prefers The Sail over The Door for the design of the new government headquarters.

A Polytechnic University study released by the government yesterday shows the sailing-boat design of the China State, Leighton-Yau Lee consortium came out "narrowly ahead" of The Door.

The China State joint venture's design features a sailing-boat and a "pearl" to house the Legislative Council chamber.

The government announced The Door as the winner last July, but refused to disclose the public choice until yesterday.

The contract has already been awarded to Gammon-Hip Hing.

Director of administration Jennifer Mak Yee-ming said yesterday The Sail was rejected after the cost and environmental factors were also considered.

But she refused to say if the HK$4.96 billion cost of The Door - 4 per cent less than the HK$5.17 billion budget set by the government - was the lowest.

When The Door was chosen, building experts predicted the cost of the design could rise to HK$5.8 billion. The actual cost will depend on the construction materials used.

Four options were exhibited from March to May.

Public views were collected through comment cards, exit polls at exhibition venues, telephone polls and written submissions. More than 14,000 comment cards and 37 written submissions were collected, while about 8,000 people were interviewed through exit and telephone polls.

According to the analysis of the public views, the total mean score from the comment cards for The Door was 20.53, while the score for The Sail was 20.8.

The exit poll gave a score of 8.66 for The Sail, compared with 8.42 for The Door.

Similar results were seen in the telephone poll, the report says, adding the difference was less than 1 percentage point.

When it comes to qualitative analysis, the report says The Door design had 3,404 positive comments, 38 more positive comments than The Sail.

It concludes that The Sail is narrowly ahead of The Door because greater weighting should be given to exit polls, in which samples were randomly taken.

But Ms Mak yesterday disagreed that The Sail was the most popular proposal.

"When we look at both quantitative and qualitative results, the scores of the two proposals are very close," she said, adding that the public had focused mainly on the aesthetic aspect of the designs.

Asked why the government did not pick the public's choice, Ms Mak said the selection panel had considered other factors including construction cost, environmental impact and technical aspects.

At a special Legislative Council meeting, lawmakers also criticised the government for not releasing the results of the public consultation until yesterday morning.

They urged it to leave room for amending The Door's design if necessary.

Ms Mak said amendments that might cost more and take more time would be difficult to agree to, adding that a detailed plan of the Tamar site should be ready by the end of this year.

Although The Door might not be the public's favourite, it has been well received by the planning and architectural professionals.

The government issued a letter of intent to Gammon-Hip Hing Joint Venture in July and its detailed design was then approved by the Town Planning Board.
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Old January 11th, 2008, 04:31 AM   #162
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Greens hail Tamar plan as lack of protest space hit
11 January 2008
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Green groups yesterday applauded natural elements to be included in the government headquarters at Tamar.

But some lawmakers expressed concern about the level of access that the public will be allowed at the new complex. Green Sense welcomed the plan to make Tamar the most environmental- friendly of government buildings.

``We are glad to hear the government will use more natural energy such as green air ventilation and natural lighting,'' said the group's project manager, Gabrielle Ho Ka-po.

``Other environmental-friendly measures like a sky garden and water- saving devices are also great ideas. Such green moves should be encouraged.''

Ho, however, said the area reserved for grassland should be modified to allow more trees to be planted, since trees will support a larger ecosystem than grass.

Greenpeace climate and energy campaigner Frances Yeung said the government made a good start in thinking green. ``The proposal is a step in the right direction to halt climate change and is a good role model for other buildings in Hong Kong to follow.''

She also noted that the government had vowed to conduct an energy audit, or carbon audit, for the project. That was suggested in the chief executive's policy address last year.

The green group hopes too that the government will try to reduce the carbon emissions of the complex to zero as well as extend the energy audit policy to all new buildings.

Yet lawmakers are concerned about how wide the gates of the complex will open, especially for public protests.

Although half the 42,000 square meter site will be open areas, Democratic Party lawmaker Lee Wing-tat said that, with such spaces scattered between buildings, people could not gather in large numbers to make their voices heard.

He asked: ``What if 5,000 people wanted to gather in front of the headquarters? Is this possible?''

Lee also said that since Chief Executive Donald Tsang Yam-kuen was calling it ``a government headquarters for the people,'' the public should be allowed to tour the headquarters by appointment, like at the US White House.

Jennifer Mak Yee-ming, director of administration, said the government had to wait for the detailed plans of the new site before making arrangements concerning protest areas.

``We have to strike a balance between the government's use of the site and a place for people to make their views known,'' she said.

For now, she thinks a multi-purpose room in the complex's low block may be open to the public.

Civic Party lawmaker Alan Leong Kah-kit questioned the possibility of making changes to the plan since the government has already signed a contract with Gammon-Hip Hing Joint Venture.

Mak said any change may lead to delays and a higher cost.

The Legislative Council's development panel will arrange another special meeting to look into the project in detail.
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Old January 13th, 2008, 04:05 AM   #163
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The Door is like 70s architecture.....what a waste of a prime location in a supposedly the best skyline in the world!
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Old January 14th, 2008, 06:28 PM   #164
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Green-friendly, but carbon-neutral issue up in the air
11 January 2008
South China Morning Post

The Tamar government headquarters will be environmentally friendly but officials could not say yesterday whether it will be carbon-neutral.

Being carbon-neutral means carbon dioxide generated from the site will be offset by environmentally friendly measures.

It is also not known where protesters will be allowed to gather until the detailed design is unveiled by the end of this year.

An official promised to strike a balance between public rights and security issues.

Rocco Yim, architect of The Door, said the design was environmentally friendly in various ways.

Apart from the large green area for public use, there would be green roofs, sky gardens and vertical planting walls for the government and Legislative Council buildings.

Water features, such as a lily pond and fish ponds, would give a cooling effect via evaporation to lower day-time temperatures. Rainwater would be collected for irrigation and the design of the actual "door" would allow air to flow from the harbour to the business district.

For energy efficiency, photovoltaic panels would convert sunlight into electricity on the rooftop to provide renewable energy for site usage.

A computerised lighting system and service-on-demand escalator would avoid energy wastage. For example, office lighting would be automatically adjusted according to daylight penetrating the office.

Materials such as a double-layered ventilated facade and special glass curtain wall would reduce temperatures inside and hence cut the use of air conditioning.

Metal rather than bamboo scaffolding would be used in the 39-month construction period to minimise waste.

Lawmaker Lee Wing-tat said the government headquarters should be carbon-neutral. He also urged the government to disclose the location intended for public protests.

Director of administration Jennifer Mak Yee-ming said she could not comment on the carbon-free issue and the government was still deciding whether to demolish the existing government offices.

The project is expected to be completed by May 2011.
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Old January 15th, 2008, 03:51 PM   #165
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Goddam it, I get so angry everytime I read about this carbon-neutral, environmentally friendly garbage.
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Old February 26th, 2008, 04:16 PM   #166
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Tamar security features kept under wraps
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Old February 27th, 2008, 05:54 AM   #167
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well if the public opinion was so close between the door and the sail now I'm pissed. That door is soooo freaking 70's!
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Old February 28th, 2008, 12:51 PM   #168
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I love the 70's, retro u know?
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Old March 19th, 2008, 09:30 AM   #169
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立會新大樓太大 記者扑咪要狂奔

立會新大樓太大 記者扑咪要狂奔
(明報) 03月 19日 星期三 05:05AM


【明報專訊】Emily經常要到立法會 「跑新聞」,跟各位尊貴議員收風、打牙骹,但日後立法會新大樓添馬艦落成後,相信會困難得多。



噚日,立法會秘書處為記者安排一場新大樓簡介及諮詢會,Emily與行家們最關心係將來可唔可以好似依家一樣,容易跟議員接觸或者捉實官員回應。秘書處話會大樓內設多個記者區,方便大家採訪。

美中不足就係新大樓實在太大,單係由記者室通往會議廳門口走廊就較現時長幾倍。Emily心諗,日後記者室聽會,如果突然要去追官員及議員,便要以9秒9速度追趕,諗起都覺得辛苦。

會議廳記者席分兩層

除會議廳,其他會議室安排亦有改變,日後記者將唔能夠坐會議室內聽會,要到上層記者席。一旦有風吹草動,記者同樣要以9秒9速度跑樓梯往下一層追訪,認真考記者腳力。

另外,記者最關心係早前有說指政府官員可經由地底停車場「秘道」直上會議廳,避開門外示威者。秘書處話,大樓的確有這秘道,但會於秘道入口裝置智能卡系統,最終會否向官員發卡則未決定,但傾向要求官員們光明正大、行正門入立法會。

秘書處將成立隊伍拍攝會議

最後係有關逢周三由港台 電視部拍攝大會安排,將來遷入大樓後,秘書處將會「飛起」港台,成立自家攝影隊,拍攝大會及其他會議情。
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Old March 20th, 2008, 02:43 PM   #170
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D is over the top and kistchy.

I'd go for the cleaner lines of A.
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Plans for the New Central Harbourfront with Tamar Project





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when will the construction start?

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Old April 28th, 2008, 07:17 PM   #173
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certainly design B
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Old July 14th, 2008, 06:16 PM   #174
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Smog-filled sky backs artist's billboard vision for Tamar
6 July 2008
South China Morning Post

A depiction of the completed Tamar government complex at the Central construction site shows the future buildings set against a hazy background - an unintentional reminder of concerns that the structures could add to the city's pollution problem.

The image appears as part of a billboard for the Tamar Development Project, a HK$4.9 billion effort to erect new government headquarters by 2011.

Tamar architect Rocco Yim Suen-kee has contended that his "door" design is environmentally friendly with a focus on energy efficiency, green spaces and water conservation. But before construction even began on the complex, Clear the Air, a Hong Kong-based non-profit group, suggested the complex could hurt the city's air quality.

The group has not budged from its position, saying the structures will not only draw in more vehicles, but will also trap exhaust by helping to create a "canyon" effect.

Asked about the new billboard, Clear the Air chairman Christian Masset replied: "It's a reminder of the deterioration to come. We should go towards improvement, but with this project we go towards deterioration."

The government disagreed, and offered its own explanation for the sign and its background.

"The Tamar Development Project has incorporated a large number of green features. When commissioned, the Central Government Complex of Tamar will be one of the greenest government buildings in Hong Kong," according to a statement from a government spokesman.

"The design of the signboard is an artistic impression produced by our architect. The background is blurred so as to highlight the different components of the Tamar project - the Central Government Complex, the Legislative Council Complex and the green open space. There is no haze or 'pollution'."

A spokeswoman for the Gammon-Hip Hing joint venture - which was awarded the Tamar contract - concurred with the government, expressing the same sentiments about the purpose of the sign and touting the many environmental benefits of the project.
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Old July 26th, 2008, 09:45 AM   #175
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Technology's role in clean, green buildings
18 August 2008
South China Morning Post

The operations of Hong Kong's high-rises account for about 24 million tonnes in annual greenhouse gas emissions. Hong Kong's first guidelines for conducting carbon audits on buildings were officially launched last month. This is a great step towards a greener environment, which will enable users and managers of buildings to calculate the amount of greenhouse gas their buildings emit. It will lend further impetus to the government's emissions-reduction campaign.

A carbon audit will be conducted on the Central Government Complex at Tamar and private developers have also been encouraged to do the same.

Hong Kong, with its high proportion of high-rise buildings, is typically considered to be heavily reliant on electricity. Developers are extremely sensitive to initial capital costs, and prefer only the most established technologies and building methods. Other concerns include reductions in efficiency and a decline in our stature as a world-class centre to do business.

However, this is a misconception. The fact is that the majority of our high-rises are of relatively recent origin. Most can easily be technology-enabled. It is, after all, technology that can help developers and building managers reduce emissions without sacrificing efficiency or performance.

Most of the energy consumed in Hong Kong's buildings actually goes towards building operations, powering heating and air-conditioning systems, electric lighting, and information and communication technology equipment. The best method for improving building performance is through the integration of systems. Smart buildings equipped with sensors can monitor the amount of sunlight coming into a room and adjust indoor lighting accordingly, or turn off air conditioning and lights when rooms or floors are empty. They can oversee other functions such as security, fire suppression and lift operations.

Buildings that are integrated in this way - so-called "connected" buildings - are both smart and green. Integrating information and electrical technologies can help building owners and operators boost environmental performance dramatically. In the case of new buildings, this has the benefit of lowering building operating expenses, reducing land use, increasing energy efficiency and cutting greenhouse gas emissions.

Collaborative technologies create virtual offices or mobile spaces that allow workspaces to be redesigned, reducing square footage per employee, and per capita use of equipment and IT infrastructure. Wi-fi technology can be used to manage air conditioning and reduce cabling, leading to reduced electricity consumption.

As with other initiatives with ramifications for society as a whole, there is a need for enlightened public-private partnership in green initiatives related to buildings.

With the right public policies and industry initiatives, our buildings could really help clean up the air - and we wouldn't even notice.

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Contractor sings the praises of green Door
1 October 2008
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Numerous energy-efficient features have been introduced into the design of the new government headquarters at Tamar, the contractor says.

And when the HK$4.9 billion waterfront edifice is completed, the effectiveness of these features will be tested regularly with a carbon audit to monitor the building's green credentials.

Gammon Construction director Danton Lee said yesterday that the arch-shaped nature of the building - known as The Door - would allow air to flow through.

He said the headquarters had also been designed with green-carpeted open spaces and water features to improve the micro-climate of the site.

The facade will feature green roofs, shading devices, double-layered ventilated glass and clear glass curtain walls to reduce heat absorption and keep the temperature down inside.

The contract to build the headquarters - incorporating a building for the Chief Executive's Office and Executive Council, a new chamber for the Legislative Council and a building for lawmakers - was awarded to Gammon-Hip Hing last July.

Expanding on the green features, Mr Lee said natural light funnels would minimise the use of artificial light, while photovoltaic panels and solar screens would generate electricity and cut power consumption.

He said the building would be supplied by fresh air from outdoors when the temperature and humidity were low enough in winter, and an energy-saving seawater cooling system would also be installed.

Occupancy sensor appliances would be installed to adjust the air conditioning and switch off lights when no one was in the room to reduce the energy waste.
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By Jaroslaw and first posted on SSP.

Anyway, three recent pics of the new city hall under construction. Photos taken through the golden glass of the Far East Asia Building:





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Insane!! 11 cranes on a single construction site with 3 or 4 piling machines. Looks like a crane parking lot, more than construction site. It's really building against time, huh.
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I hate the design. I really really hate it. :-(
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