Seoul approves 620m max height tower at Yongsan - Page 2

cydevil · April 12th, 2007, 10:43 AM

Well, the latest news as of today(2007.4.12) is that the two sides will start "negotiating" by starting a joint taskforce to resolve the disputes. The current disputes are 1. putting 40% of the lot on hold, 2. increasing the imposed floor-space index of 580%, 3. "codeveloping" the surrounding areas.

cydevil · May 17th, 2007, 11:21 AM

The latest info:

According to an interview with the Korail project manager, the reason that Seoul Metropolitan Government set up those conditions was to "force" Korail into cooperating on the "Han River Renaissance Project", which involves developing new massive residential lots as well as major infrastructure development such as moving the Riverside North Highway(강변북로) underground. That's going to cost a lot of money, which is why Korail got pissed and threatened to abandon the project.

Sister Ray · May 17th, 2007, 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by cydevil

such as moving the Riverside North Highway(강변북로) underground.

Hey, that's a really good idea though. Put the Olympic X/way underground too. Parks all along both sides of the Han. Nice manicured ones. Not just plain grass like Hangang park has at the moment.

I always though it was a shame such a pretty geographic feature as the Han was flanked by two 10 lane highways.

sluta_bitas · June 19th, 2007, 09:33 PM

Stupid, Its possible to edit but not remove messages.

cydevil · August 17th, 2007, 10:28 AM

Update: Seoul and Korail worked out their differences and agreed for codevelopment of Korail's lot and the Seobu-Ichon district. Codevelopment of the Seobu-Ichon district was the cause of the disputes.

The new proposal the two sides agreed upon makes the project even better - besides the supertall, there will be an international ferry terminal and a bunch of medium-height skyscrapers around the supertall to form a "skyline".

Another good news is that Seoul government left the door open for a possible increase in max height of the tower, which is 620m at the moment. It said if there's a need for a taller skyscraper and there's an appropriate design for it, it can consider a tower taller than 620m.

Here are some new renderings:

Sister Ray · August 17th, 2007, 09:53 PM

Design looks really cool. Hope it happens. Seoul has a bad track record with supertalls.

Ellatur · August 17th, 2007, 11:45 PM

it looks too much like Q1 though.. i hope they change the design to something more original

cydevil · August 18th, 2007, 01:06 AM

Those are just conceptual renderings to help people understand, I don't think there ins't any official design yet. The construction is due to start at 2010.

Mussoda · August 18th, 2007, 03:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cydevil

Those are just conceptual renderings to help people understand, I don't think there ins't any official design yet. The construction is due to start at 2010.

gosh......... another long wait for something shown....
anyway,,. i hope it will be done well..

Dex · August 21st, 2007, 01:40 AM

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Originally Posted by jinsukmoonpark

Here area some pictures of the Yongsan ********

They look awesome!!! It's definitely gonna change Seoul's ******* for sure

Wouw!

Mussoda · August 22nd, 2007, 03:48 PM

overall Yongsan ..

cydevil · November 2nd, 2007, 05:01 AM

As some of you may already know, there are currently two contenders to the Yongsan project - the Samsung consortium and the Hyundai consortium. They have just publicized their proposals for this project.

Samsung-National Pension consortium, the "Dream Hub":

Prime-Hyundai consortium, the "Global Mir City"

Mir in "Global Mir City" does not refer to the Russian Space Station Mir. "Mir" is the Korean word for "Dragon".

If you ask me, Samsung's proposal is ugly as hell. I like Hyundai's proposal a lot better.

Locust · November 2nd, 2007, 05:16 AM

to add a short comment... I read that the total cost will be 20TW which is like 22 Billion US$... mind boggling...
"Mir" in russian means peace... if I remember correctly..
Both renderings are cooler than ever !!!

cydevil · November 2nd, 2007, 06:31 AM

These are the participants of the two competing consortiums.

Samsung-National Pension Consortium
Construction and Development: Samsung Corporation, GS Engineering & Construction, Hyundai Development, Kumho Industrial, SK Engineering & Construction, POSCO Engineering & Construction, Han Yang Corporation, Taeyoung Engineering and Construction, Doosan Construction & Engineering, Nam Kwang Engineering and Construction, Bando(?) Engineering and Construction, Eugene Corporation, Kyeryong Construction and Industrial, Samwhan Corporation, Samsung Everland, Woomi(?) Construction

Strategic Investment(for direct use of office space in the tower): Lotte Tours, Mirae Asset Securities, Samsung SDS, KT&G Corporation, CJ Corporation

Financial Investment: National Pension Corporation, Prudential Corporation PLC, Samsung Life Insurance, Woori Bank

Prime-Hyundai Consortium
Hyundai Engineering and Construction, Daerim Engineering and Construction, Amco, KCC Engineering and Construction, LIG Engineering and Construction, Joongang Construction, Kolon Engineering and Construction, Hanjin Heavy Industries and Construction, Byuck San Engineering and Construction, Prime Development, C&Woobang Corporation, LG CNS

Strategic Investment: LG, Merrill Lynch, Industrial Bank of Korea, Taihan Electric Wire

Financial Investment: Korea Agricultural Cooperative, Industrial Bank of Korea, Kyong Nam Bank, Bank of Gwangju, Daegu Bank, Pusan Bank, Jeon Buk Bank, Kumho Life Insurance, Korea Life Insurance, Tong Yang Life Insurance, LIG Insurance, Hyundai Securities, NH Investment and Securities, 다올신탁(can't find the English name for this company), National Federation of Fisheries Cooperatives, Shinhan Life Insurance

Mussoda · November 2nd, 2007, 07:10 AM

NICE RENDERINGS!

uhm.. as for me,,, it's hard to sellect...
just thinking,, unique and innovative one seems Samsung's .. (but it looks also middle-east(?) style,, so, i can't but admit it has quite unfamiliar aspects,. )
and... i'd like to see more zoomed-in Hyundai's renderings... it's quite also innovative,,but that renderings are some vague still.. cuz it's quite zoomed out,, so detail is out of sight...

and more thing... is,.. samsung proposal is commerce-office oriented... but Hyundai try to much more just 'apartment' (of course mixed one, 'Jubok')

well,,,..is it impossibe to mix two proposal's concept ?? lol...

Sister Ray · November 2nd, 2007, 09:22 AM

Hyundai main tower looks incredible in that rendering.

Locust · November 2nd, 2007, 04:08 PM

It seems Samsung was awarded the contract !!!!

and the total investment is not 20+Billion as I read bifore.. it is ~ 30 Billion US$

http://news.hankooki.com/lpage/econo...4034321540.htm

cydevil · November 2nd, 2007, 11:21 PM

Samsung was given priority status, but hasn't been awarded the contract yet. I dearly hope that Samsung won't win, I mean that tower is just too ugly.

하얀OOgom · November 2nd, 2007, 11:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cydevil

As some of you may already know, there are currently two contenders to the Yongsan project - the Samsung consortium and the Hyundai consortium. They have just publicized their proposals for this project.

Samsung-National Pension consortium, the "Dream Hub":

Prime-Hyundai consortium, the "Global Mir City"

Mir in "Global Mir City" does not refer to the Russian Space Station Mir. "Mir" is the Korean word for "Dragon".

If you ask me, Samsung's proposal is ugly as hell. I like Hyundai's proposal a lot better.

the first render of the hyundai one looks great, looks clean and very modern/futuristic. the 2nd pic of hyundai looks so nice view personally i think hyundai should get the contract
samsung looks not that good though. sorry but when i looked again, the tower looks ugly as crap...

cydevil · March 24th, 2008, 02:55 AM

Great news! The Dream Hub tower is most likely to get redesigned!

http://www.cbs.co.kr/Nocut/Show.asp?IDX=747668

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August 17th, 2007, 11:45 PM	#27
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August 22nd, 2007, 03:48 PM	#31
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November 2nd, 2007, 07:10 AM	#35
Mussoda Soul_Seoul Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Seoul Posts: 3,066	NICE RENDERINGS! uhm.. as for me,,, it's hard to sellect... just thinking,, unique and innovative one seems Samsung's .. (but it looks also middle-east(?) style,, so, i can't but admit it has quite unfamiliar aspects,. ) and... i'd like to see more zoomed-in Hyundai's renderings... it's quite also innovative,,but that renderings are some vague still.. cuz it's quite zoomed out,, so detail is out of sight... and more thing... is,.. samsung proposal is commerce-office oriented... but Hyundai try to much more just 'apartment' (of course mixed one, 'Jubok') well,,,..is it impossibe to mix two proposal's concept ?? lol... __________________ - Seoul City Life, Seoul images, Seoul Metro Images, Korea Images - Korean New Architectures, Korean Style (Han Style), Korean Landscapes, Korean Stadiums

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April 12th, 2007, 10:43 AM	#21
cydevil Entering the Bookhell Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Ilsan Posts: 1,342	Well, the latest news as of today(2007.4.12) is that the two sides will start "negotiating" by starting a joint taskforce to resolve the disputes. The current disputes are 1. putting 40% of the lot on hold, 2. increasing the imposed floor-space index of 580%, 3. "codeveloping" the surrounding areas.

May 17th, 2007, 11:21 AM	#22
cydevil Entering the Bookhell Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Ilsan Posts: 1,342	The latest info: According to an interview with the Korail project manager, the reason that Seoul Metropolitan Government set up those conditions was to "force" Korail into cooperating on the "Han River Renaissance Project", which involves developing new massive residential lots as well as major infrastructure development such as moving the Riverside North Highway(강변북로) underground. That's going to cost a lot of money, which is why Korail got pissed and threatened to abandon the project.

August 17th, 2007, 10:28 AM	#25
cydevil Entering the Bookhell Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Ilsan Posts: 1,342	Update: Seoul and Korail worked out their differences and agreed for codevelopment of Korail's lot and the Seobu-Ichon district. Codevelopment of the Seobu-Ichon district was the cause of the disputes. The new proposal the two sides agreed upon makes the project even better - besides the supertall, there will be an international ferry terminal and a bunch of medium-height skyscrapers around the supertall to form a "skyline". Another good news is that Seoul government left the door open for a possible increase in max height of the tower, which is 620m at the moment. It said if there's a need for a taller skyscraper and there's an appropriate design for it, it can consider a tower taller than 620m. Here are some new renderings:

August 17th, 2007, 09:53 PM	#26
Sister Ray Registered User Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: North Shore City Posts: 557	Design looks really cool. Hope it happens. Seoul has a bad track record with supertalls.

August 18th, 2007, 01:06 AM	#28
cydevil Entering the Bookhell Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Ilsan Posts: 1,342	Those are just conceptual renderings to help people understand, I don't think there ins't any official design yet. The construction is due to start at 2010.

November 2nd, 2007, 05:01 AM	#32
cydevil Entering the Bookhell Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Ilsan Posts: 1,342	As some of you may already know, there are currently two contenders to the Yongsan project - the Samsung consortium and the Hyundai consortium. They have just publicized their proposals for this project. Samsung-National Pension consortium, the "Dream Hub": Prime-Hyundai consortium, the "Global Mir City" Mir in "Global Mir City" does not refer to the Russian Space Station Mir. "Mir" is the Korean word for "Dragon". If you ask me, Samsung's proposal is ugly as hell. I like Hyundai's proposal a lot better.

November 2nd, 2007, 05:16 AM	#33
Locust Registered User Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 653	to add a short comment... I read that the total cost will be 20TW which is like 22 Billion US$... mind boggling... "Mir" in russian means peace... if I remember correctly.. Both renderings are cooler than ever !!!

November 2nd, 2007, 06:31 AM	#34
cydevil Entering the Bookhell Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Ilsan Posts: 1,342	These are the participants of the two competing consortiums. Samsung-National Pension Consortium Construction and Development: Samsung Corporation, GS Engineering & Construction, Hyundai Development, Kumho Industrial, SK Engineering & Construction, POSCO Engineering & Construction, Han Yang Corporation, Taeyoung Engineering and Construction, Doosan Construction & Engineering, Nam Kwang Engineering and Construction, Bando(?) Engineering and Construction, Eugene Corporation, Kyeryong Construction and Industrial, Samwhan Corporation, Samsung Everland, Woomi(?) Construction Strategic Investment(for direct use of office space in the tower): Lotte Tours, Mirae Asset Securities, Samsung SDS, KT&G Corporation, CJ Corporation Financial Investment: National Pension Corporation, Prudential Corporation PLC, Samsung Life Insurance, Woori Bank Prime-Hyundai Consortium Hyundai Engineering and Construction, Daerim Engineering and Construction, Amco, KCC Engineering and Construction, LIG Engineering and Construction, Joongang Construction, Kolon Engineering and Construction, Hanjin Heavy Industries and Construction, Byuck San Engineering and Construction, Prime Development, C&Woobang Corporation, LG CNS Strategic Investment: LG, Merrill Lynch, Industrial Bank of Korea, Taihan Electric Wire Financial Investment: Korea Agricultural Cooperative, Industrial Bank of Korea, Kyong Nam Bank, Bank of Gwangju, Daegu Bank, Pusan Bank, Jeon Buk Bank, Kumho Life Insurance, Korea Life Insurance, Tong Yang Life Insurance, LIG Insurance, Hyundai Securities, NH Investment and Securities, 다올신탁(can't find the English name for this company), National Federation of Fisheries Cooperatives, Shinhan Life Insurance

November 2nd, 2007, 09:22 AM	#36
Sister Ray Registered User Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: North Shore City Posts: 557	Hyundai main tower looks incredible in that rendering.

November 2nd, 2007, 04:08 PM	#37
Locust Registered User Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 653	It seems Samsung was awarded the contract !!!! and the total investment is not 20+Billion as I read bifore.. it is ~ 30 Billion US$ http://news.hankooki.com/lpage/econo...4034321540.htm

November 2nd, 2007, 11:21 PM	#38
cydevil Entering the Bookhell Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Ilsan Posts: 1,342	Samsung was given priority status, but hasn't been awarded the contract yet. I dearly hope that Samsung won't win, I mean that tower is just too ugly.

March 24th, 2008, 02:55 AM	#40
cydevil Entering the Bookhell Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Ilsan Posts: 1,342	Great news! The Dream Hub tower is most likely to get redesigned! http://www.cbs.co.kr/Nocut/Show.asp?IDX=747668