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Old November 25th, 2011, 03:57 PM   #601
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Please refrain from the political discussion here, thanks!

Open a skybar thread for this stuff if you see a need to do so.

I'll delete any further posts on the topic.
I understood. From now on i'll not discuss political themes post anymore. thanks
But As skysraper lover who I am ... please understood my despair and angry.
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Old November 25th, 2011, 08:45 PM   #602
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The only thing is, I never really understood the whole "Seoul Harbor" idea. the Hangang reaches the ocean in North Korea, so it's not like Seoul can really work as a harbor. Besides, that's what Incheon is there for.

Anyway, I'm curious just how many buildings are going to be part of this project. It seems like even on the CTBUH page, there are a lot of buildings not listed; Seoul never seems to have all its information around.
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Old November 26th, 2011, 06:38 AM   #603
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The only thing is, I never really understood the whole "Seoul Harbor" idea. the Hangang reaches the ocean in North Korea, so it's not like Seoul can really work as a harbor. Besides, that's what Incheon is there for.

Anyway, I'm curious just how many buildings are going to be part of this project. It seems like even on the CTBUH page, there are a lot of buildings not listed; Seoul never seems to have all its information around.
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"Seoul Harbor" or "Yong san Harbor" whatever..It is idea come from predecessor mayor's "Han-river renaissance project" which is make han river like a "Themes of lonond".
This project's very point is "Seoul Harbor" and IBD. At the moment han-river is empty..there is no crusie-ship or tour-ship...
If this project completed..it would many china and japan's tourist direct to reach to seoul with only ship

I'm curious just how many buildings are going to be part of this project.

67 Buildings(over 40 floors is 19 buildings)
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Old November 28th, 2011, 02:56 AM   #604
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http://biz.chosun.com/site/data/html...112800219.html

IBD LANDMARK TOWER's height confirm as 620m(111floors)

Official name is so called "Triple one"
Changed from 100floors(480m) to 111floors(620m) Taller than lotte seoul tower
IMO spire is almost 60~70m


This decision congratulation for KORAIL'S 111 ANNIVERSARY!!

Designed by renzo piano(until december.2011)
Built by Samsung(who built Burj Kalifa)
With renzo basic design detail design in next years.
Construction begin at june 2013
Completed in december. 2016

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Old November 28th, 2011, 03:08 AM   #605
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Really curious what Renzo Piano will show next month, but still don't like the master plan.
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Old November 28th, 2011, 04:21 AM   #606
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so unbelievably happy with the height increase! A building so beautiful deserves the extra height!
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Old November 28th, 2011, 10:39 PM   #608
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I can't quite comprehend the post of inno4321.


Does that mean a height increase to 620m for the tower this thread is dealing with?
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I can't quite comprehend the post of inno4321.


Does that mean a height increase to 620m for the tower this thread is dealing with?
yes.

but then again i still cannot imagine this and when the plan is to start construction in 2013 i have high fears that this may be one of the future never built hypertall buildings in korea that we had so many in the past

isnt that an old design for DMC, just wondering

with the current design the spire looks to be around 120m or even more, just look at the picture and its about 1/5th of the height of the building and that didnt take into account that the picture has perspective.

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Old November 29th, 2011, 02:33 AM   #610
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Well, like we said before, the gold-wrapped tower is just a place holder until Piano comes out with his design. It may look totally different from what we see here.

Also, the article from the Chosun Ilbo says that this is one of the three 500+ m buildings going up, and names the Hyundai Global Business Center and the Lotte Jamsil Super Tower as the other two. It also states explicitly that the Seoul Lite tower proposal has been scaled back; those two things make it obvious that Seoul Lite won't be over 500m, but they didn't say just how much smaller the new proposal for that project would be. It's probably safe to say it'll still be a supertall, but I would guess probably no more than 400m.

I do think that this particular project will go through, 620m tower and all, just because it's in such a prime location, and there are so many companies invested in the development, including most of the big chaebol and some foreign co's.
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Old November 29th, 2011, 10:35 AM   #611
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Well, like we said before, the gold-wrapped tower is just a place holder until Piano comes out with his design. It may look totally different from what we see here.

Also, the article from the Chosun Ilbo says that this is one of the three 500+ m buildings going up, and names the Hyundai Global Business Center and the Lotte Jamsil Super Tower as the other two. It also states explicitly that the Seoul Lite tower proposal has been scaled back; those two things make it obvious that Seoul Lite won't be over 500m, but they didn't say just how much smaller the new proposal for that project would be. It's probably safe to say it'll still be a supertall, but I would guess probably no more than 400m.

I do think that this particular project will go through, 620m tower and all, just because it's in such a prime location, and there are so many companies invested in the development, including most of the big chaebol and some foreign co's.
Thanks for your chosunilbo english article link.
Accordding to some news Landmark tower's design is changed from "Dragon shape(golden wrapped)" to "Rocket shape"
Is Renzo prefer to rocket shape building? I never find rocket shape in his portfolio
Seoul will be get another Second Rocket building besides from "Lotte jamsil seoul tower"? Give me a break IBD
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Old November 29th, 2011, 10:59 AM   #612
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Really curious what Renzo Piano will show next month, but still don't like the master plan.
Me too. At the moment master plan is not my taste.

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so unbelievably happy with the height increase! A building so beautiful deserves the extra height!
First time i heard the height increase News I so very happy

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Does that mean a height increase to 620m for the tower this thread is dealing with?


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yes.

but then again i still cannot imagine this and when the plan is to start construction in 2013 i have high fears that this may be one of the future never built hypertall buildings in korea that we had so many in the past

isnt that an old design for DMC, just wondering

with the current design the spire looks to be around 120m or even more, just look at the picture and its about 1/5th of the height of the building and that didnt take into account that the picture has perspective.
Skeptical is roots of science. Skeptical is healthy reasonable mind.
But i'm sometime tend to be religious man... especially for IBD..
Right This is time for "Real proof" rather than "news article and imaginary rendering". Agree this project is not easy.
Me too I'm looking forward to see "real stuff"...someday
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Skeptical is roots of science. Skeptical is healthy reasonable mind.
But i'm sometime tend to be religious man... especially for IBD..
Right This is time for "Real proof" rather than "news article and imaginary rendering". Agree this project is not easy.
Me too I'm looking forward to see "real stuff"...someday
i just hope that all these projects will turn out with the heights we heard lately. but i guess only time can tell. i'm happy at least one 500m+ buiding is already under construction and i think the next year will make more clear what the city is heading towards in terms of height
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Nice news that this tower get increased.
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Old November 29th, 2011, 08:25 PM   #615
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Thanks for your chosunilbo english article link.
Accordding to some news Landmark tower's design is changed from "Dragon shape(golden wrapped)" to "Rocket shape"
Is Renzo prefer to rocket shape building? I never find rocket shape in his portfolio
Seoul will be get another Second Rocket building besides from "Lotte jamsil seoul tower"? Give me a break IBD
I just hope that with "rocket shape" they don't mean something like the Slaughterhotel of your evil north neighbour
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I just hope that with "rocket shape" they don't mean something like the Slaughterhotel of your evil north neighbour
that actually is more like a pyramid than a rocket
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620m....that's really cool
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Old November 30th, 2011, 03:27 PM   #618
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Nice news that this tower get increased.
Me too

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that actually is more like a pyramid than a rocket
Yeap. North korea(I don't want to admit it that N.Korea as my brotherhood country. really sick and tired)'s Slaughterhotel is shame on kimjong il dictator. I think their concret pyramid hotel is so ugly.

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620m....that's really cool
Not only 620m tower but also others 44 buildings.

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Renzo Piano's design is really ugly.(the one on the left)
It doesn't fit Seoul or Korea image at all.
It looks like an image from the cartoon for children as a villain's evil tower.

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Renzo Piano's design is really ugly.(the one on the left)
It doesn't fit Seoul or Korea image at all.
It looks like an image from the cartoon for children as a villain's evil tower.
This is not Renzo design.
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