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Old November 13th, 2017, 12:25 AM   #2121
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and Detroit used to be one of the world's greatest and richest cities post war and Buffalo was one of the richest at the turn of the last century. Never mind Carthage and the like. Things can change dramatically. I am rooting for a comeback for Detroit and Buffalo.

But I do somewhat agree, geo-politics plays a role and cities with a head start like Frankfurt have a big advantage, but yes anything is possible. I think Warsaw has greatness in its DNA and soul....a more friendly, stable and peaceful hinterland would do Warsaw and this whole region a great deal of good. I never thought Toronto would become world class, it was a feisty provincial capital in the late 60's that no one thought would overtake Montreal, but it has in a big way. Montreal is still great of course.
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Old November 13th, 2017, 01:10 PM   #2122
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Competition is good (when it doesn't involve killing and/or maiming), and if Warsaw competes with Frankfurt, it's all the better. You have to take on the strongest rival if you want the most genuine triumph.

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Old November 13th, 2017, 06:18 PM   #2123
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FraSpa seem very similar to Roma Tower planned in Warsaw:



and Winx have this Skyliner vibe to it:



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Old November 14th, 2017, 05:01 AM   #2124
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No, that's not true. Some things never happen, in city development as in everything else. Sao Paulo, for instance, will never be orderly. That's why they built Brasilia.
Senseless bias discussion.
What is beautiful? What is impressive? What is vulgar? What is overrated?

PS. Never? Are you a psychic?
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Old November 14th, 2017, 09:05 AM   #2125
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So, top 3 skylines in European Union (well, if we keep UK) so far:

1. London
2. Paris
3. Frankfurt

Soon:

1. London
2. Paris
3. Warsaw

Even without +250 skyscrapers (if we don't count the spire), Warsaw skyline will look more impressive and beautiful than Frankfurt one.
And Paris must be very careful! But if they build Hermitage towers, then it would be highly difficult to overtake Paris
It`s just the amount? Londons skyline is far worse than the number would expect. The buildings are spread all over the big city. The City skyline looks tiny compared to the one in Frankfurt. So Frankfurt has the best skyline in Europe. Also the most new projects are concentrated in one close area. Like in Warsaw. Paris is sleeping. In 5 years it will be Frankfurt, Warsaw, London.
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Old November 14th, 2017, 10:56 AM   #2126
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Senseless bias discussion.
What is beautiful? What is impressive? What is vulgar? What is overrated?

PS. Never? Are you a psychic?
Do you agree that rain never falls upwards or do you ban the very concepts of "impossible" and "never" just for the sake of... being a contrarian?! Bless you, that's what forums are for.
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Old November 14th, 2017, 11:15 AM   #2127
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It`s just the amount? Londons skyline is far worse than the number would expect. The buildings are spread all over the big city. The City skyline looks tiny compared to the one in Frankfurt. So Frankfurt has the best skyline in Europe. Also the most new projects are concentrated in one close area. Like in Warsaw. Paris is sleeping. In 5 years it will be Frankfurt, Warsaw, London.
But Warsaw's towers are equally spread out. At least london has several very dense skyscraper cores. Warsaw has a few towers, followed by parking lots after parking lots and repeat
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Old November 14th, 2017, 05:16 PM   #2128
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But Warsaw's towers are equally spread out. At least london has several very dense skyscraper cores. Warsaw has a few towers, followed by parking lots after parking lots and repeat
Thats why i said in 5 years. ;-)

9 towers over 130m u/c. Most of them in the cluster. That will really help to densen the skyline.

Canary wharf is growing but the buildings are not that interesting. Also The City builds a lot but they building a new tallest there and everytime they got a new tallest the cluster looked smaller.
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Old November 16th, 2017, 07:30 PM   #2129
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Plus a few planned skyscrapers, like:

Atlas Estate Tower (167m)


Liberty Tower (140m)


Nowa Emilia (207m)


Towers in Port Praski (160m/140m/120m/100m)


Roma Tower (170m)


Warsaw One (188m)



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Old November 16th, 2017, 10:03 PM   #2130
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http://www.broadwaymalyan.com/news/n...artment-store/

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New plans unveiled for historic Warsaw department store

Plans have been unveiled to transform a historic department store into a unique retail and food destination in the heart of Warsaw.

The plans drawn up by architects Broadway Malyan will see the redevelopment of the former Dom Jablkowskich department store and a neighbouring building to create an exciting new development in one of the city’s busiest districts.

The proposals will see the creation of four floors of retail within the former department store with the aspiration that the basement and ground floor will be predominantly focused on food and gastronomy while the upper floors for independent lifestyle and fashion retailers.

The new plans will also will see the creation of a new walkway between the two buildings and a glass covered courtyard with restaurants and coffee shops while there will also be a new entrance from the street as well as larger shop windows at street level.

The project will see a significant modification of the vertical circulation with the installation of new escalators although the feature staircase in the centre of the main atrium and the historic stain glassed windows will all be retained with the space used for exhibitions and events.

The project will benefit from a programme to upgrade the nearby square which will remove much of the traffic away from the building and will see more pedestrian-friendly additions such as wider pavements and tree planting.

Broadway Malyan director Robert Kaminski said: “This is an early modernist building of real quality and we will be retaining as much of the original structure as possible but with some modern interventions.






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Old November 21st, 2017, 11:46 PM   #2131
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Koneser construction update








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Old November 22nd, 2017, 04:31 AM   #2132
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Do you agree that rain never falls upwards or do you ban the very concepts of "impossible" and "never" just for the sake of... being a contrarian?! Bless you, that's what forums are for.
When you are in a very tall building - on a windy rainy day - the wind sometimes pushes the rain up the side of the building - and you therefore see rain - falling upwards. The same phenomenon happens with snow. Not contrarian - just 'eyes' open - and certainly not - never.
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Old November 22nd, 2017, 04:59 AM   #2133
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In the next 3 years ad 7 more skyscrapers to Warsaw - including the tallest in Europe and that's not even close to finished. Lots of nice green and red in old front also.
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Old November 22nd, 2017, 10:15 AM   #2134
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In the next 3 years ad 7 more skyscrapers to Warsaw - including the tallest in Europe and that's not even close to finished. Lots of nice green and red in old front also.
They look quite interchangeable. Which is the one with the green in front again?
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Old November 22nd, 2017, 04:39 PM   #2135
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They look quite interchangeable. Which is the one with the green in front again?
The Frankfurt one looks far more sterile (lifeless, clean-cut). As one would suppose. Ordnung muss sein.

Germans rather haven't been known for their romanticism. Efficiency? Definitely. But not much place for erruptions of creative disarray in their hearts. At least not since they let themselves be conquered by those dreary Prussians.
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Old November 23rd, 2017, 05:54 AM   #2136
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Old November 23rd, 2017, 02:19 PM   #2137
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Could you guys please stop with the pointless city vs city thing? People visit this section to get updates on new projects and construction...
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Old November 23rd, 2017, 09:00 PM   #2138
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On the long run, Warsaw will build more skyscrapers than Frankfurt, because in Frankfurt are unfortunately restrictions where skyscrapers can be built.


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Old November 24th, 2017, 12:26 AM   #2139
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Old November 24th, 2017, 02:06 PM   #2140
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Development of Warsaw from the drone by winkiel82:



Dipservice demolition (0:10 - 0:20)
Mennica Legacy Tower (0:20 - 3:30)
Mennica Residence (2:20 - 2:35)
Dipservice demolition (3-30- 3:45)
Warsaw Hub and Skyliner (3:45 - 5:05)
Spinnaker and Generation Park (5:05 -6:40)
Dipservice demolition (6:40 - 7:35)
Varso Place (7:35 - 9:25)
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