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Old November 3rd, 2014, 05:24 PM   #1361
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Carpathia Office House. Unfortunately it seems like the project has changed, the building looks much cheaper



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Old November 3rd, 2014, 05:31 PM   #1362
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I don't see a big difference, we'll see what kind of cladding they place on the ground floor.
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Old November 3rd, 2014, 09:16 PM   #1363
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Still, it seems that the final floors changed a bit both in cladding and structure itself. The last floor before the setback was supposed to have full glass covering and vertical ornaments. I didn't see the building in person, but the facade looks a bit too much like plastic due to the lack of different hues.
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Old November 6th, 2014, 12:05 PM   #1364
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Old November 6th, 2014, 02:50 PM   #1365
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It's probably just me, but that ugly building isn't that bad, it could be interesting after some serious renovation :P
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Old November 6th, 2014, 05:24 PM   #1366
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the problem is that it's set back from the street leaving a gap in the streetface filled with an ugly parking lot. The new building is very elegant filling the site beautifully., repairing the urban fabric in this location.
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Old November 6th, 2014, 05:39 PM   #1367
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Well, it make sense to get rid of it then. I've only seen this building on a picture and thought it could be nice after some changes.
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Old November 7th, 2014, 09:46 AM   #1368
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Like painting it all white, removing those AC units, and changing all the window frames to black. It could look Bauhaus.
But sadly for some reason nobody ever does this. They usually paint them clashing oranges and greens and don't bother re-matching the windows.

But the new building looks good and will be a welcome addition.
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Old November 7th, 2014, 12:18 PM   #1369
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Most of these buildings are useless from a technical point of view. Ceilings are low, it's extremely expensive to build a proper air conditioning system, there's no proper internet infrastructure, elevators are crap and since it's not a core-based structure, room setup is very limited. Oh and there are no parking spaces.
If the owner was to include all of the changes necessary to make it useful and attractive, it could even cost more than building a new one.
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Old November 7th, 2014, 04:14 PM   #1370
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Like painting it all white, removing those AC units, and changing all the window frames to black. It could look Bauhaus.
But sadly for some reason nobody ever does this. They usually paint them clashing oranges and greens and don't bother re-matching the windows.
And at the same time you're all for demilishing real gems from NYC... I don't understand you. Do you even understand yourself?
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Old November 7th, 2014, 04:17 PM   #1371
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Old November 7th, 2014, 06:13 PM   #1372
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Old November 8th, 2014, 01:13 AM   #1373
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And at the same time you're all for demilishing real gems from NYC... I don't understand you. Do you even understand yourself?
Europe is different from the US. Prewar buildings are now too glorified to be often demolished, but many mid-century modernist buildings are being demolished or completely altered without a second thought.
Even in the US it's just two or three mediocre prewar buildings demolished that nobody would have really paid much attention to anyway compared to others in the city.

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Most of these buildings are useless from a technical point of view. Ceilings are low, it's extremely expensive to build a proper air conditioning system, there's no proper internet infrastructure, elevators are crap and since it's not a core-based structure, room setup is very limited. Oh and there are no parking spaces.
If the owner was to include all of the changes necessary to make it useful and attractive, it could even cost more than building a new one.
Practicality is a bad excuse. We have managed to update cramped medieval and industrial age buildings to 21st century standards without any problems.

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Old November 8th, 2014, 09:10 AM   #1374
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Practicality is a bad excuse. We have managed to update cramped medieval and industrial age buildings to 21st century standards without any problems.
But these old buildings have something (anything) that is attractive. This one's ugly, poorly constructed and no one likes it. It's like keeping a 30-year old fiat 126 and telling yourself that it's a classic car.
I bet that no one in Warsaw will be trying to stop the demolition of this.
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Old November 8th, 2014, 09:59 AM   #1375
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People once thought victorian buildings were tacky. Time changes everything.
And that Fiat is a classic car.

Noone will try and stop the demolition because it hasn't been given a proper Bauhaus renovation.
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Old November 8th, 2014, 02:04 PM   #1376
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But these old buildings have something (anything) that is attractive. This one's ugly, poorly constructed and no one likes it.
How can you tell? I like it, although it would be better in some other location.
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Old November 8th, 2014, 02:07 PM   #1377
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126p is crap in its pure form, at least right now when I look back at it
No one will try to renovate it because there's no real reason for it. We have tons of better architecture in Warsaw and preserving this one just because it might turn out good is not enough. There are buildings from the 2000s that deserve more care than this one.
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Old November 8th, 2014, 11:03 PM   #1378
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It's probably just me, but that ugly building isn't that bad, it could be interesting after some serious renovation :P
That location deserves something much better. This building has some potential but I think what will be replacing it will be much more impressive.
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Old November 12th, 2014, 01:15 PM   #1379
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