Hyderabad Metro Updates

[skdubai]

Originally Posted by tankbund

Mr Dubai

Respectfully disagree. There are no naysayers to the HYD metro. An overwhelming majority want it, almost 100%. The objections were mainly relating to transparency and routes, which is legitimate. That happens everywhere. L&T is a well respected Company. The project is in good hands.

The Delhi model is inferior. There Govt. is pouring in money. That will never happen elsewhere. The PPP model is the best way to go. As much as possible private enterprise should be encouraged with Govt. support.

Regards

Dont get me wrong. I really do think PPP is the way to go. The problem is that the common argument everywhere seems to be, why should we do xyz for the benefit of the private company. I don't get this argument, but it seems to be slowing down the progress all the time..

[Irrational_Indian]

Originally Posted by skdubai

Dont get me wrong. I really do think PPP is the way to go. The problem is that the common argument everywhere seems to be, why should we do xyz for the benefit of the private company. I don't get this argument, but it seems to be slowing down the progress all the time..

Let hope the Metro shuts their mouths up and we set an example to the developing world!

[raghussc]

L&T aiming to finish Phase-I the Nagole to Mettuguda stretch in 3 to 3.5 yrs according to this article in NDTV

Source: http://www.ndtv.com/article/south/fi...e-years-204911

"We are supposed to complete the project in five years. But presently we are thinking of commissioning it phase by phase. It is not as per the requirement of the concession agreement. But we are trying to do that basically to advance the completion of the project," said V B Gadgil, Chief Executive and Managing Director, Larsen and Toubro (L&T) Metro Rail (Hyderabad).

"Our endeavour will be to complete the first phase, which we have taken up between Nagole and Mettuguda, in about three to three-and-half years time. After about six to eight months' time, we will be able to tell you precisely when we are going to do this," he told reporters today. He also said the entire project would be completed by 2017.

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[raghussc]

Did that 3 to 3.5 yrs period started on the day of financial closure, or is it from today when the statement was made.

As per Hindu article, he meant that Phase-I includes both Nagole-Mettuguda and Miyapur-Ameerpet.

[Cosmicbliss]

Originally Posted by tankbund

Mr Dubai

Respectfully disagree. There are no naysayers to the HYD metro. An overwhelming majority want it, almost 100%. The objections were mainly relating to transparency and routes, which is legitimate. That happens everywhere. L&T is a well respected Company. The project is in good hands.

The Delhi model is inferior. There Govt. is pouring in money. That will never happen elsewhere. The PPP model is the best way to go. As much as possible private enterprise should be encouraged with Govt. support.

Regards

How is it inferior? MRTS worldwide almost never makes money. If Hyderabad Metro takes off, great. But calling Delhi model inferior isn't fair. DMRC has set standards for excellent, time-bound work within schedule. If the government hadn't financed DMRC, it wouldn't have proceeded as smoothly as it has till now IMHO.

[Gudavalli]

HMR: SC ruling gives little relief

HYDERABAD: With the Supreme Court ruling that property owners should be paid the highest market value for land acquisitions and not the registration value of the same area, those facing the prospect of losing their land to the Hyderabad Metro Rail project are happy. However, some concerns remain.
Ramanna, a small-time hotel owner near SR Nagar, where the markings for the pier construction, have already begun, welcomed the verdict but was obviously concerned over the prospect of losing his business. “I have spent a good amount of my life establishing my business here. Now, I will be displaced and the compensation does not guarantee me a future in my business,” he pointed out.
Another property owner, Krishna kumar, who has constructed a building and let it out for rent, said, “For the building I own, I pay around Rs 1.5 lakh towards bank loan from the Rs 2 lakh rent I receive. Now, when 10 feet of the compound is acquired and demolished, the compensation to the extent of land acquired will neither help me pay back all my loan nor help me retain the rent from the building. My tenants would leave and finally, the bank will takeover my property!”
For some, though, it is a win-win situation as the whole of the land would be acquired at the highest market value. Among others who had more concerns to share was an affected party, and also an activist against the project, who did not want to reveal his identity. “The judgement calls for either a compensation for the land acquired or an equal amount of Floor Space Index (FSI)- a permission to construct additional floor space instead of claiming the compensation”. In such a case, a small business establishment owner does not benefit if a major share of his land is lost, he added.
Among other major worries, is a proposal by the state government to impose double-tax on the properties enroute the project to balance the tax waivers provided to the lands given away to L&T metro rail Hyderabad Ltd.

[Gudavalli]

L&T to finalise vendors for Hyderabad Metro by June

Bombardier, others in race for rolling stock

HYDERABAD, MAY 1:
L&T Metro Rail (Hyderabad) Ltd will finalise vendors for rolling stock and signalling equipment by June.

Operations and maintenance contractors will also be finalised by then.

The process was delayed due to difficulties in land acquisition for the project.

“We are at an advanced stage of finalising these vendors and suppliers. There is heightened interest in the Rs 16,375-crore project,” said Mr Vivek B. Gadgil, Chief Executive and Managing Director of L&T Metro Rail.

“Suppliers from across the world are keenly watching the progress of this PPP project and looking at taking part in its progress.

“At least four major vendors, including Canadian supplier of rolling stock, Bombardier, a Spanish firm, China CSR Corporation and the BEML-Rotem consortium are in fray for the Rs 1,800-crore deal,” he pointed out.

TRANSIT DEVELOPMENT

The company plans to execute Transit-Oriented Development along the corridor, and ensure connectivity through multiple modes of transport. Initially, six million sq ft of mixed use space would be taken up.

L&T has expressed confidence that it would be able to execute the project as per schedule while ensuring that there is no cost overrun. The project has an equity component of Rs 3,439 crore, viability gap funding of Rs 1,458 crore from the Centre and a term loan component of Rs 11,478 crore.

“Thus far, we have invested Rs 500 crore all of it being L&T's equity contribution.

“We have not yet accessed any funds from banks and financial institutions.

“The last few quarters have seen high interest rates. But, after financial closure in March last year, the rates seem to be softening,” he said.

[Gudavalli]

L&T to commission first phase of Hyderabad Metro Rail by 2014

HYDERABAD: India's largest engineering and construction company by revenues Larsen & Toubro, which is implementing the country's largest elevated metro rail project in Hyderabad, said on Tuesday the first phase of the metro rail project will be commissioned by 2014.

The project consists of three corridors covering a total distance of 71.16 kilometres to be implemented in four phases. Corridor-I will extend from Nagole to Shilparamam (27.51 km - 23 stations), corridor-II from Miyapur to L.B. Nagar spread over 28.87 km with 27 stations, while corridor-II will be from JBS to Falaknuma stretch over 14.78 km with 23 stations.

V. B. Gadgil, CE & MD, L&T Metro Rail, said the first phase includes the stretch from Nagole to Mettuguda and from Miyapur to Ameerpet. "Work will simultaneously go on in the other phases as well. We will finalise vendors for rolling stock, telecom, signalling systems by June," he said.

Four firms have bid for supplying the rolling stock including the Canadian aircraft and railway coach maker Bombardier, a consortium led by Hyundai and BEML and a Chinese and Spanish company, the executive said.

For the Rs 16,336 crore of project, the company has so far invested Rs 3,400 crore as equity. The viability gap funding for the project provided by the government is Rs 1,458 crore and the banks have lent the company Rs 11, 478 crore as term loans for the project.

Hyderabad Metro Rail project is being implemented with the Andhra Pradesh government on public private partnership mode under the design, build, finance, operate and transfer (DBFOT) format. The concession agreement was signed by with the AP government in September 2010.

"The company will execute transit oriented development along the corridors and depot of around 18.5 million square feet, apart from connecting the multiple modes of transport. Once implemented, Hyderabad will be among the first cities in India with integrated urban planning with inter-modal connectivity and convenient sky-walks making seamless commuting a reality," Gadgil said.

[raghussc]

Originally Posted by harsh1802

Man, I'm so happy about line 8.
8. Mettuguda - ECIL via Malkajgiri 12KM

I guess they'll not take up this line 8 eventually ... soon an MMTS line will run parallel to some portions of this route (sec'band to Malkajgiri to Bolarum)

Instead, it might be good if they can take up ECIL - Tarnaka - thru Gandhinagar/Domalguda - Secretariat - Mehdipatnam

[raghussc]

The route I'm thinking is something like this ...

ECIL - Tarnaka (interchange station) - Osmania Univ - Vidyanagar - RTC X Roads (interchane station) - Secretariat - Lakdikapul (interchange station) - Masab Tank - Mehdipatnam - and extend it till Narsingi ORR keeping in mind that this Narsingi extension will server future residential areas in that area.

[raghussc]

Instead of Narsingi, it can go towards Univ of Hyd, gachibowli or eventually to BHEL ... connecting various universities

[raghussc]

There is a flow of articles these days in the media on HMR ...

Sakshi article here...

- Hong Kong style of construction
- Full project to be done by 2017
- Compensation within to 3 months for those who are going to lose their properties
- Mettuguda to Nagole stretch in the next 3 yrs
- Depo work in Nagole and Miyapur on war-front

[Irrational_Indian]

Originally Posted by raghussc

I guess they'll not take up this line 8 eventually ... soon an MMTS line will run parallel to some portions of this route (sec'band to Malkajgiri to Bolarum)

Instead, it might be good if they can take up ECIL - Tarnaka - thru Gandhinagar/Domalguda - Secretariat - Mehdipatnam

But then the JBS-Alwal line also would be parallel to the MMTS ( Malkajgiri-Bolarum-Medchal) line no?

But yeah, that part of the city needs some decent metro connectivity!

I liked your alternative route too. I'd definitely use it if it was built.

[ZaheerH]

http://www.thehindubusinessline.com/...ue&ref=wl_home

Hyderabad, May 1:

The Hyderabad Metro Rail project will be executed with the least inconvenience to people and without much disruption of traffic, Mr Vivek B. Gadgil, Chief Executive of L&T Metro Rail, said.

A comprehensive study has been completed for traffic flow management and trained marshals deployed to assist traffic flow during the construction phase to be spread over five years.

Addressing a press conference, Mr Gadgil said the work on all the three corridors would be taken up simultaneously as the right of way for the project is clear, barring some small stretches and land acquisition has also been completed.

“You will see work on pillars and piers simultaneously at several parts of the city. We expect to complete the project within five years in phases. The Government has handed land for terminal stations and depots and is in the process of acquiring land for 66 stations,” he said.

Tramways

Mr Gadgil said the Metro project has been conceived and developed under the AP Tramways Act. These is no problem with this approach. The elevated rail network will have a top speed of 80 km per hour and manage an average speed of 38-40 km per hour as the three corridors are faced with curves, he said.

Asked about some of the cases pending before the High Court, Mr Gadgil said they were now under consideration. One does not have any control over public interest litigations that come up and filed by aggrieved people. “The Andhra Pradesh Government will take them up,” he said.

“As far as L&T and Government are concerned, we have finalised the alignment across all the three routes. Alignment is finalised after an extensive study and feasibility assessment. It cannot be handled arbitrarily,” he explained.

[ZaheerH]

http://www.deccanchronicle.com/chann...tion-paris-694

L&T Metro Rail Hyderabad Ltd, the concessionaire of Hyderabad Metro, said it would commission the first phase of the project — Nagole to Mettuguda — in about three years. “We are supposed to complete the project in five years. But currently, we are thinking of commissioning it phase by phase. However, now our endeavour will be to complete the first phase, which we have taken up between Nagole and Mettuguda, in about three years,” Mr V.B. Gadgil, the chief executive and managing director of L&T Metro Rail (Hyderabad), said on Tuesday.

The Nagole to Mettuguda stretch is a part of the Uppal to Shilparamam route. The other two routes are LB Nagar to Miyapur and Falaknuma to Jubilee Bus Depot. Mr Gadgil said that the project, which is one of the world’s largest PPP projects in the Metro Rail space, would draw inspiration from Hong Kong and Paris Metro Rail systems. “The coaches to be used in Hyderabad Metro would be better than the Delhi Metro,” he said. Dismissing the concerns that the speed of the Metro Rail would be limited as it was being implemented under the Tramways Act, Mr Gadgil said there were some provisions which allowed the government to implement the Metro Rail.

“The Metro Rail would have a maximum speed of 80 km an hour. But since it stops at all 65 stations, it would achieve an average speed of 38 to 40 km a hour,” he said. Though Mr Gadgil did not have much to offer on traffic problems due to the Metro work, he said L&T Metro’s traffic marshals would guide people on alternative routes.

[Prodigist]

Originally Posted by raghussc

Instead of Narsingi, it can go towards Univ of Hyd, gachibowli or eventually to BHEL ... connecting various universities

The route that you posted has some difficulties.. There already is the Masab Tank Flyover which is on a bund like road. it cannot be exapanded and the areas on both sides of this road are on a very low level

And The Lower tank bund route is not feasible because of the Telugu-Talli flyover.. So they have to go through either Himayatnagar. And here again they have to negotiate Narayanguda Flyover along with Line 2 at Narayanguda X Roads.

There is another route which this can take.. via Toli Chowki-Jubilee Hills and connect to the Uppal line at Rd no.36. Then there can be a spur from Tarnaka junctionn to ECIL(This ECIL route can be expanded to Pocharam which is developing well bcos of Infosys)
But then whats the use of connecting J.Hills.. Ppl living there wont be using it at all.

[raghussc]

Agree ! Maybe the line should go underground between lower tankbund and just beyond Lakdikapul

[Gudavalli]

L&T MRH promises world-class metro

L&T Metro Rail Hyderabad (L&TMRH) will utilise 70 per cent space in the three depots and air space in the 57 acres of the 66 stations for commercial exploitation for Transit Oriented Development (TOD) as per the Concessionaire Agreement, said Chief Executive and Managing Director V.B. Gadgil.

“We have done a market study on TOD whether to go in for retail, commercial or office space,” he said and that the space will be exploited in phases during the entire contract period depending on the city's absorption capacity. Mr. Gadgil was addressing a press conference at the L&TMRH head office at Cyber Towers on Tuesday.

TEST OF SKILL

“Our technical, logistical and execution skill will be tested but with our experience we are confident of completing the project on schedule and in a safe manner,” he said. Seeking citizens' cooperation during construction, he said there was bound to be some disturbance because of narrow lanes and complicated traffic flow. Efforts, though, were on to minimise inconvenience to commuters, he added.

Most of the land acquisition for right of way was completed, he pointed out. Overground utilities were being removed in a coordinated manner with the government agencies and scouring is on underground for the same purpose.

The elevated metro rail will be of international standard comparable to Hong Kong and Paris metros with advanced features. Negotiations were on with four reputed global firms such as Bombardier, Hyundai, Cape and CSR of China for rolling stock and these are to be firmed up in two-three months.

INFLATIONARY TREND

“We are bargaining hard and have the economy of scale advantage. High interest rates and inflationary trends are a matter of concern. We are hopeful of a downturn trend,” he said. The MD did not want to hazard a guess whether this would lead to cost escalation “at this time.”

“Cost is going to be a dynamic factor but L&TMRH's endeavour is to complete the project in five years from now, i.e.2017, as fast as possible and closer to the projected cost,” Mr. Gadgil said. Work will be happening simultaneously on the three routes of 71.16 km and it was decided to commission the project in phases with the first phase – Nagole to Mettuguda likely to be completed in three and a half years.

“We are here to executive the project. While there are lobbies opposing it, the common man on the street is positive. That's my observation from interactions I had. This largest public, private partnership (PPP) project is being monitored around the world as its success will open the floodgates for similar such metros,” Mr. Gadgil added.

[rajeev_14012008]

Originally Posted by mangalore mania

What does this media wants by posting these emotional attachments of public. People should be rather proud of what they are sacrificing for the national economy. This is the Selfish mentality of Indians..
Woh bolte hai na India wale Kabaddi bahut acha khelte hai..

i think its not about emotion its about livelihood.

Sacrifice !!! what about big and fat four wheelers ....

[mangalore mania]

Metro rail works wont derail traffic
IBNLive
Hyderabad | Posted on May 02, 2012

HYDERABAD: With the Hyderabad Metro Rail works picking up pace, VB Gadgil, CEO & MD of L&T Metro Rail Hyderabad Ltd, on Tuesday allayed fears of increased traffic problems.
In a freewheeling chat with reporters, he asserted that steps would be taken to ensure that inconvenience caused to the public, as a result of the works, would be minimal.
“We have submitted a report on traffic in the city to the State government and the traffic police.
L&T metro has clear plans for traffic management including measures like curtailing of lanes, allowing one-way traffic and also, communication of construction work at different places in advance to the public,” he explained.
Gadgil also confirmed that a major part of the land acquisition related to transit-oriented development (TOD) was completed.
“57 acres have been allotted towards TOD at 27 places.
70% of it will be used for construction of railway station and the rest for transit development,” he said.
Regarding utilities that need to be shifted or altered to make way for the metro, he said, “the government has taken steps regarding utilities over the ground whereas L&T is probing underground utilities like cables, pipelines etc.” On fears that the metro rail would kill other modes of transport like the MMTS, he pointed out that the MMTS had already got the green signal to go ahead with its phase II development.
The CEO also denied the possibility of underground railway to avoid unnecessary demolitions at various places.
“Since the tender was granted to L&T, it has always been an elevated metro rail and there is no question of an underground rail network,” he clarified and also asserted that there was no proposal to change the route alignment.
The L&T metro has invested around `400-500 crore in the project till date.
The 1st phase is expected to be completed in 3-5 years.
“The project is being watched by the world as this type of project has never been tried.
We are also using a very advanced signaling technology which nobody has ever tried,” he said.

‘NO COST ESCALATION FOR NOW’

Replying to a volley of questions on the cost of the project, Gadgil pointed out, “cost is a dynamic parameter. It will be extremely difficult to predict. All our efforts would be to complete the project within the estimated budget and time span.
Besides, we have not used any of the funds from the loans so far. So, the increasing interest rates will not affect us as of now.” He also said the actual expenditure could be assessed only when orders are placed in three to four months.
According to the financial closure which was done on March 3, 2011, the project cost estimate stands at Rs 16,375 crore with the Government providing Rs 1,428 crore through the Viability Gap Funding , Rs 11,478 crore through term loans and Rs 3,439 crore through equity.