SAINT PETERSBURG - Gazprom Arena (69,501) - 2018 FIFA WC - Page 44

Donodöner · July 7th, 2012, 10:29 PM

The Petrov would do it's job but your right in this concerning. A match in a new home arena is always nice.

michał_ · July 9th, 2012, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Donodöner

Don't know. Why to hurry up? The WC will be in 2018 so it would be better when it looks new.

That's no argument

This stadium wasn't designed for 2018 World Cup.

Why hurry up?
Because the complete cost already rose to unbelievable ammounts of possibly 45 bln RUB (!!!) and is on its best way to become the world's most expensive venue. If that doesn't mean much, what does? And all delays are costly.

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Originally Posted by Chrechan

What happened to the building ? Why did it take so long?

The construction is taking so long because of serious problems with redesigning and construction itself. The stadium's retractable roof needed to be changed (the proposed membrane one wasn't strong enough for extreme winters in Piter). Then they completely changed the seating bowl and increased capacity.

Actually to date there is no final design! And some portions of the stadium had to be torn down already, because they were built along outdated documentation. It's a reall mess, this one.

Contractor has approval for up to 2,000 people on site, but in June there were literally 96 of them working. They have no certainty of the design so don't know what to build.

Donodöner · July 9th, 2012, 05:54 PM

Good arguments but this stadium wouldn't ever been so ritzy without the WC.

Donodöner · July 9th, 2012, 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by michał_

Because the complete cost already rose to unbelievable ammounts of possibly 45 bln RUB (!!!) and is on its best way to become the world's most expensive venue. If that doesn't mean much, what does? And all delays are costly.

This one tops that.

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Originally Posted by AILD

The project was chosen today!

1) «АБД» (Russia) совместно с Perkins Eastman International (USA)
2) ГУП «Моспроект-4» (Russia) совместно с POPULOUS (UK)
3) ГУП Москвы «Моспроект-2» имени М.В. Посохина (Russia) совместно с (designed by) Erick van Egeraat B.V. (Netherlands)
4) ООО Архитектурная мастерская «СПиЧ» (Russia) совместно с GMP International GmbH (Germany)
5) ООО «СТД ДЕВЕЛОПМЕНТ ПРОЕКТ» (Russia) совместно с Interstudio s.r.l. (Italy)

The 45,000 Stadium with sliding roof + 10,000 Sports Hall (hockey, basketball).
Total investition in the whole complex - 1,4 billions $.
Reconstruction will begin in 2011 and end in 2015. Name - "VTB-Arena".

michał_ · July 10th, 2012, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Donodöner

This one tops that.

Not really. This is the cost of not only the stadium, but also other buildings, like the extensive underground complex. So it's not really comparable.

Besides - Gazprom Arena isn't finished and current affairs indicate the 45bln RUB isn't final at all. So far the cost has been rising by 10bln per year if I remember correctly, so there's still - unfortunately - a massive risk of exceeding the price tag of any other stadium...

Donodöner · July 10th, 2012, 09:58 PM

Let's hope they finish both in record time.
I really plan to go to Moscow and enjoy the matches on the red square or even one in the stadium. I'm sure there will be a bombastic athmosphere.

Would be great if they will broadcast the match on that massive screen.

Donodöner · July 15th, 2012, 06:20 PM

26.06.2012
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***www.sercan.de*** · July 15th, 2012, 06:32 PM

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radioheader · July 15th, 2012, 08:08 PM

And now, the official anthem of this stadium:

Donodöner · July 28th, 2012, 07:23 PM

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exxes · July 29th, 2012, 01:35 PM

should demolish this monstrous centipede, and construct a normal stadium

JimB · July 29th, 2012, 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by exxes

should demolish this monstrous centipede, and construct a normal stadium

The stadium design is fantastic. Will be wonderful when it's finally finished.

The fully justifiable criticism must be reserved for the construction methods used and for the mismanagement (or corruption?) that is responsible for the stadium being so far behind schedule and (I guess) so far over budget.

exxes · July 29th, 2012, 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by JimB

The stadium design is fantastic. Will be wonderful when it's finally finished.

The fully justifiable criticism must be reserved for the construction methods used and for the mismanagement (or corruption?) that is responsible for the stadium being so far behind schedule and (I guess) so far over budget.

You are not afraid to walk to the stadium which was built first half and then again 5 changed the project on track? Look how many columns to render now, it's not a flying saucer and the screw

beaky · August 22nd, 2012, 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by exxes

You are not afraid to walk to the stadium which was built first half and then again 5 changed the project on track? Look how many columns to render now, it's not a flying saucer and the screw

eh?

MAXDF · September 3rd, 2012, 07:47 AM

Very nice to see that Russia is already moving forward on building stadiums and urban mobility. Glad to know that will not do here in Brazil as they leave everything to last minute. Congratulations to embrace Russian friends!!

MS20 · September 3rd, 2012, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by MAXDF

Very nice to see that Russia is already moving forward on building stadiums and urban mobility. Glad to know that will not do here in Brazil as they leave everything to last minute. Congratulations to embrace Russian friends!!

Some of these stadiums would have been built with or without the World Cup. St Petersburg is one of Europes biggest cities and the club could become one of Europe's biggest with this stadium.

WFInsider · September 3rd, 2012, 06:56 PM

Possible contenders for the continuation of stadium construction after the end of InzhTransStroy contract (finish date -15 November):

1) Vinci (France)
2) Hochtief (Germany)
3) Alpine (Germany)
4) Kajima (Japan)
5) Skanska (Sweden)
6) Turner (USA)

MAXDF · September 3rd, 2012, 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by MS20

Some of these stadiums would have been built with or without the World Cup. St Petersburg is one of Europes biggest cities and the club could become one of Europe's biggest with this stadium.

Very good this thought. Here in Brazil soccer teams are also building large and modern stadiums that are not used in the canopy but the clubs. Glad to know that Russia is well underway.

DJaCoNdA · September 4th, 2012, 04:18 AM

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Originally Posted by WFInsider

Possible contenders for the continuation of stadium construction after the end of InzhTransStroy contract (finish date -15 November):

1) Vinci (France)
2) Hochtief (Germany)
3) Alpine (Germany)
4) Kajima (Japan)
5) Skanska (Sweden)
6) Turner (USA)

I hope it will be Skanska.

endrity · September 15th, 2012, 12:34 PM

unbelievably slow.......

Stockholm isn't warm either you know, and they'll probably finish their stadium in 1/3 of the time. Ridiculous!

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July 15th, 2012, 08:08 PM	#869
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July 7th, 2012, 10:29 PM	#861
Donodöner Public Enemy №1 Join Date: May 2012 Location: Perm, Duisburg Posts: 1,393 Likes (Received): 296	The Petrov would do it's job but your right in this concerning. A match in a new home arena is always nice.

July 9th, 2012, 05:54 PM	#863
Donodöner Public Enemy №1 Join Date: May 2012 Location: Perm, Duisburg Posts: 1,393 Likes (Received): 296	Good arguments but this stadium wouldn't ever been so ritzy without the WC.

July 10th, 2012, 09:58 PM	#866
Donodöner Public Enemy №1 Join Date: May 2012 Location: Perm, Duisburg Posts: 1,393 Likes (Received): 296	Let's hope they finish both in record time. I really plan to go to Moscow and enjoy the matches on the red square or even one in the stadium. I'm sure there will be a bombastic athmosphere. Would be great if they will broadcast the match on that massive screen.

July 15th, 2012, 06:20 PM	#867
Donodöner Public Enemy №1 Join Date: May 2012 Location: Perm, Duisburg Posts: 1,393 Likes (Received): 296	26.06.2012 Source: http://fc-zenit.ru/main/photo/gl3810/

July 29th, 2012, 01:35 PM	#871
exxes Registered User Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 287 Likes (Received): 11	should demolish this monstrous centipede, and construct a normal stadium

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MAXDF BANNED Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Brasília Posts: 86 Likes (Received): 0	Very nice to see that Russia is already moving forward on building stadiums and urban mobility. Glad to know that will not do here in Brazil as they leave everything to last minute. Congratulations to embrace Russian friends!!

September 15th, 2012, 12:34 PM	#880
endrity Registered User Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 384 Likes (Received): 9	unbelievably slow....... Stockholm isn't warm either you know, and they'll probably finish their stadium in 1/3 of the time. Ridiculous!