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Old April 10th, 2007, 02:46 AM   #41
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Oh, sorry. I just realised that the smaller scheme IS cancelled and is old. lol.

Edit: Just wonderg, what will CW do for more space once they have built RS, NQ, HQW and Wood Wharf? Will there be ANY space left?
Once these plots are developed there is very little space on the Isle of Dogs, especially for tall buildings. Theres a couple of plots along Marsh Wall & Cross harbour where tall office buildings will eventually be built but they are not owned by CWG. The Billingsgate market site has potential for a couple of talls, but as I mentioned somewhere else that site is owned by the Coporation of London. A part from the question of whether or not Londons main fish market even wants to move & if so to where theres also the point that it's owned by CWG chief rival so doubtful they would sell to Songbird.

They could possible redevelop buildigns on the CW estate but that would destroy any balance & harmony they are trying to achieve with 1CS being the pinnacle etc & also the fact a lotof the building son the estate have been sold so CWG doesn't own a lot of them anymore.
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Old April 10th, 2007, 09:01 AM   #42
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It will take another 20 years to develop all these sites.
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Old April 10th, 2007, 10:50 AM   #43
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It will take another 20 years to develop all these sites.
Even longer if there is a recession, which is very likely in the next two decades.
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Old April 19th, 2007, 08:54 PM   #44
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Jones Lang Lasalle reports that One Bank Street (Heron Quays West) will be up to 185,000 sqm (2 million sqft).
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Old April 19th, 2007, 09:00 PM   #45
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Sounds like a pair of 700-footers then.

Yay!
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Old April 20th, 2007, 05:35 AM   #46
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Whats on the site at the moment?......any pictures would help, cant find any...
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Old April 20th, 2007, 09:30 AM   #47
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Low-rises. Presumably, Heron Quays West will be the next site to be redeveloped by Canary Wharf as North Quay is likely to be delayed until 2015 when the new Isle of Dogs Station will be completed. A planning application is expected to be submitted this year yet with potential clients including Bank of America which wants to consolidate all its operations into a new 1mio sqft headquarter building by 2012.
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I presume though this development will mean a little bit more draining out of the dock?
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Yes

This map from the Canary Wharf website shows the proposed size of the site.


And the 3D estate map shows the size of the buildings currently there.

http://www.canarywharf.com/estate/es.../1278_2300.jpg
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Isn't Wood Wharf, or at least some elements of that scheme more likely to be closer to top of the development pipeline than Heron Quay West?

British Waterways and the other partners surely would like to cash in on some of Canary Wharf's office success sooner rather than later.
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Old April 20th, 2007, 06:24 PM   #52
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Isn't a lot of Wood Wharf going to be residential though - or at least a lot of it? Being an extreme optimist, would be amazing to see WW and HQW rise simoultaneously and around 2012-15!
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Isn't Wood Wharf, or at least some elements of that scheme more likely to be closer to top of the development pipeline than Heron Quay West? British Waterways and the other partners surely would like to cash in on some of Canary Wharf's office success sooner rather than later.
Canary Wharf has its own development programme, they only have a 1/3 interest in Wood Wharf. It is understood that the joint venture does not yet own all the lands. I am not sure about the intentions of British Waterways and Ballymore either. Another element is that Wood Wharf depends upon the construction of the electrical substation at North Quay ... which is to be used for Crossrail.
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Those low-rises are despicable .....thank god they're getting rid of them to make way for the high-rises
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Old April 22nd, 2007, 10:38 AM   #55
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Those low-rises are despicable .....thank god they're getting rid of them to make way for the high-rises
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Old April 22nd, 2007, 12:51 PM   #56
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Canary Wharf has its own development programme, they only have a 1/3 interest in Wood Wharf. It is understood that the joint venture does not yet own all the lands. I am not sure about the intentions of British Waterways and Ballymore either. Another element is that Wood Wharf depends upon the construction of the electrical substation at North Quay ... which is to be used for Crossrail.

Wood Wharf is late in planning by at least a year now. A planning application was set from last Autumn & is now some time in the 1st half of 07. From what I gather CWG would focus on the office element which from the masterplan mainly consisted of 2 towers of around 30 storeys & Ballymore would focus on the residential component.

I was under the impression CWG do not own all the sites HQW will be on & that the current owners were holding out.

I still think we will see activity in Wood Wharf before HQW.
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Those low-rises are despicable .....thank god they're getting rid of them to make way for the high-rises
I don't mind them, although I prefer what could go in their place I find them actually quite quirky and kitsch.
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Old April 22nd, 2007, 07:46 PM   #58
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hight restrictions make me angry!
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Old April 23rd, 2007, 02:02 AM   #59
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agreed..........but we do need them so cities don't run amok with high-rises and their skylines
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i dont think you need height restrictions to manage that...just defined areas for highrise construction.
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