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N1 · April 24th, 2007, 02:28 PM

Im a bit confused. So, the old Richard Roger designs were never follow by a planning application? As far as I recall the two towers were 214 and around 150m which should provide something like 2m sqft. So, there is a good chance the this design is still alive then?

Xander · April 24th, 2007, 02:49 PM

^I hope so, I loved that design!

Sussex Albion · April 24th, 2007, 02:53 PM

Is the Barclays-ABN Amro merger likely to have any effect on all these development plans? I read somewhere that Barclays' HQ will close once they have established a new HQ in Amsterdam.

DarJoLe · April 24th, 2007, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Sussex Albion

I read somewhere that Barclays' HQ will close once they have established a new HQ in Amsterdam.

Why? There's other companies apart from Barclays in their Canary Wharf building.

brian-boitano · April 24th, 2007, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Sussex Albion

Is the Barclays-ABN Amro merger likely to have any effect on all these development plans? I read somewhere that Barclays' HQ will close once they have established a new HQ in Amsterdam.

Thats ridiculous. Of course they aren't goign to leave the centre of the global capital markets to move to a backwater like Amsterdam. The Amsterdam HQ will not be an HQ in anything but name.

Sussex Albion · April 24th, 2007, 05:32 PM

Of course, I guess Barclays Capital would quickly take up space left by HQ staff. Presumably just the Board will move to Amsterdam, but I find the rationale for such a move when the group's more important business will be based in London rather puzzling. I wasn't suggesting the building would be demolished, just wondering whether the freed up office space would impact on building plans in Canary Wharf.

eddie88 · April 25th, 2007, 08:18 PM

ok warning possibly stupid question about to be asked!

so in the HSBC, Barclays and Citygroup buildings , is it only office for those companies or is some of it rented out, ive always wondered when i sit and have lunch in Canada squire why would the need so much space!

They call one Canada “vertical fleet street”

snail456 · April 25th, 2007, 10:02 PM

To my knowledge only Barclays HQ has other companies letting out office space in the same building...I think citygroup and HSBC are just let out to those companies. Correct me if I'm wrong.

DarJoLe · April 25th, 2007, 10:23 PM

Citigroup has other companies in it I believe.

Luke · April 26th, 2007, 02:22 PM

Source Financial Times -

Citgroup's building includes Anschutz Entertainment Group, Munich Re, Instinet and Wells Fargo.

Jonny 5 · April 26th, 2007, 03:44 PM

The Canary Wharf Offices website has an interactive map that tells you who is in each building.

http://www.canarywharfoffices.com/

eXSBass · April 26th, 2007, 11:37 PM

If anything ABN Amro should come to our Estate!

jef · April 27th, 2007, 08:13 AM

ABN Amro currently occupies one of the ugliest building of the City.

eXSBass · April 27th, 2007, 10:26 AM

Can't be. PwC have that job.

jorgen · April 27th, 2007, 11:04 AM

'ONE of the ugliest' he said

mole · April 27th, 2007, 12:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sussex Albion

Is the Barclays-ABN Amro merger likely to have any effect on all these development plans? I read somewhere that Barclays' HQ will close once they have established a new HQ in Amsterdam.

First, the Barclays deal is highly doubtful to succeed now that RBS has tabled a rival offer for ABN Amro, which is 70% cash based rather than equity based.

And second, the Evening Standard report which described a plan to close down Barclays London Head Office is not accurate.

Monkey · April 27th, 2007, 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by jef

ABN Amro currently occupies one of the ugliest building of the City.

I quite like their wedge shaped building in the City.

Luke · April 27th, 2007, 02:07 PM

I really like ABN's building, much better than the RBS groundscraper next door.

Barclay's still have a better chance of taking ABN than RBS. The consortium's bid is dependent on ABN's American subsiduary being part of the deal. ABN have already agreed to sell it to Bank of America who claim the deal is done.

jef · April 27th, 2007, 09:19 PM

Canary Wharf has sent a letter to LBTH indicating they intend to stop the leasehold to start works on Heron Quay on or before August 2008 (cfr the letters enclosed with the pa at 11-12 Heron Quay). Land reclamation probably. It is on track.

***wjfox*** · April 27th, 2007, 09:22 PM

I had a feeling they'd start on these before North Quay... sounds very promising.

April 24th, 2007, 02:49 PM	#62
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April 26th, 2007, 02:22 PM	#70
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April 26th, 2007, 03:44 PM	#71
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April 26th, 2007, 11:37 PM	#72
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April 27th, 2007, 10:26 AM	#74
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April 24th, 2007, 02:28 PM	#61
N1 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 346 Likes (Received): 0	Im a bit confused. So, the old Richard Roger designs were never follow by a planning application? As far as I recall the two towers were 214 and around 150m which should provide something like 2m sqft. So, there is a good chance the this design is still alive then?

April 24th, 2007, 02:53 PM	#63
Sussex Albion Registered User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Sussex/London Posts: 69 Likes (Received): 0	Is the Barclays-ABN Amro merger likely to have any effect on all these development plans? I read somewhere that Barclays' HQ will close once they have established a new HQ in Amsterdam.

April 24th, 2007, 05:32 PM	#66
Sussex Albion Registered User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Sussex/London Posts: 69 Likes (Received): 0	Of course, I guess Barclays Capital would quickly take up space left by HQ staff. Presumably just the Board will move to Amsterdam, but I find the rationale for such a move when the group's more important business will be based in London rather puzzling. I wasn't suggesting the building would be demolished, just wondering whether the freed up office space would impact on building plans in Canary Wharf.

April 25th, 2007, 08:18 PM	#67
eddie88 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: NYC Posts: 665 Likes (Received): 1	ok warning possibly stupid question about to be asked! so in the HSBC, Barclays and Citygroup buildings , is it only office for those companies or is some of it rented out, ive always wondered when i sit and have lunch in Canada squire why would the need so much space! They call one Canada “vertical fleet street”

April 25th, 2007, 10:02 PM	#68
snail456 Registered User Join Date: May 2006 Location: Colchester Posts: 509 Likes (Received): 0	To my knowledge only Barclays HQ has other companies letting out office space in the same building...I think citygroup and HSBC are just let out to those companies. Correct me if I'm wrong.

April 25th, 2007, 10:23 PM	#69
DarJoLe Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: London Posts: 15,674 Likes (Received): 397	Citigroup has other companies in it I believe.

April 27th, 2007, 08:13 AM	#73
jef Registered User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Brussels/London Posts: 3,362 Likes (Received): 0	ABN Amro currently occupies one of the ugliest building of the City.

April 27th, 2007, 11:04 AM	#75
jorgen Viking Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Norway (ex London) Posts: 1,073 Likes (Received): 0	'ONE of the ugliest' he said

April 27th, 2007, 02:07 PM	#78
Luke Blackboard Monitor Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: London Posts: 1,303 Likes (Received): 0	I really like ABN's building, much better than the RBS groundscraper next door. Barclay's still have a better chance of taking ABN than RBS. The consortium's bid is dependent on ABN's American subsiduary being part of the deal. ABN have already agreed to sell it to Bank of America who claim the deal is done. __________________ The latest movie reviews - www.sharemypopcorn.co.uk

April 27th, 2007, 09:19 PM	#79
jef Registered User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Brussels/London Posts: 3,362 Likes (Received): 0	Canary Wharf has sent a letter to LBTH indicating they intend to stop the leasehold to start works on Heron Quay on or before August 2008 (cfr the letters enclosed with the pa at 11-12 Heron Quay). Land reclamation probably. It is on track.

April 27th, 2007, 09:22 PM	#80
*wjfox* Moderator Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: L O N D O N Posts: 36,226 Likes (Received): 942	I had a feeling they'd start on these before North Quay... sounds very promising.

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