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Old June 12th, 2009, 03:48 PM   #2141
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You mean M43 Szeged - Nagylak.
no, i dont mean that

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Anyways, somehow it seems to me that they exaggerated (a little bit) with the number of interchanges on this section...
no they havent, since a) szeged is/will be surrounded with industrial areas b) there is a bridge on the river which will replace a ferry service so the nearby villages will need the connection c) most of those places are small towns as opposed to villages, so they require the ramps
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Old June 12th, 2009, 03:50 PM   #2142
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Why? It is like the M2 or the short M4...
they will build 100s of kms of this, thats why i have a problem

M8, M4, M85, M86 will be build like this, and they will call them expressways, they are inferior to proper highways
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Old June 12th, 2009, 04:34 PM   #2143
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I don't think this would be a problem. M30, M35, M3 after Görbeháza, M6 under Dunaújváros, M7 after the Balaton would be perfect like this section. If we reach 50-60 U a day then we should pave the emergency lanes (or when we reach this in 10 years time)...

This section was 700 million/km, Seleste bypass would be the same, M85 Enese bypass 800 million/km. The cheapest motorway section is 1,05 billion/km.
We can decide: the build 100 km of "autópálya" or build 130 km of 2*2 lane "autóút"?

You mentioned further the M44. A haven't read anywhere that will be an "autópálya".
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Old June 12th, 2009, 05:53 PM   #2144
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emergency lane paving isnt the only difference, speed, cuvriture, gradients are also different

i like driving so yes, i'd rather see 100 kms of proper highways instead of 130 kms of this
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Old June 12th, 2009, 08:17 PM   #2145
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[QUOTE=gramercy;38154934]no, i dont mean that

I was just trying to underline that the construction "M43 Szeged - Arad" is absurd, since the M43 is only the motorway number in Hungary, and last time I checked I believe Arad was in Romania, and the section Nadlac - Arad will be labeled as A1.
So if you weren't trying to say M43 Szeged - Nagylak, I don't think anyone can figure out what were you trying to.
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Old June 15th, 2009, 07:16 PM   #2146
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http://www.nif.hu/hirek/260

6.3 kms of 2x(3+1) concrete section of the M0 will be constructed till the end of 2010 for 35 mio Eur
section between roads 51 and M5
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Old June 16th, 2009, 06:58 PM   #2147
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Fron posted a nice long video about the new main road 86 bypass of Vát,future M86



(Vát is near Szombathely)
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Old June 16th, 2009, 07:06 PM   #2148
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nice video, crappy road, does not deserve to be called an expressway under any circumstances
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Old June 16th, 2009, 07:08 PM   #2149
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there are two examples in this video of a potentially deadly scenario which could have been prevented by a paved emergency lane

and the inside lane is just too close to the mid-barrier


these types of roads are okay for short distances, like connecting smaller towns to the network

but this will be built for 100s of kms and be treated as a motorway
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Old June 16th, 2009, 07:19 PM   #2150
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nice video, crappy road, does not deserve to be called an expressway under any circumstances
And where did you see "expressway" sign? I only saw a "main road" sign around 1:05. It is probably a 110 main road.
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Old June 16th, 2009, 07:21 PM   #2151
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And where did you see "expressway" sign? I only saw a "main road" sign around 1:05. It is probably a 110 main road.
you did say it will be M86 did you not?


also, M4 and M85 and M8 and M10 will be like this to


regardless, i dont care what they "call it"

the fact of the matter is: hundreds of kms of this will be built and be used for decades as de-facto highways and expressways, definitely the part of the network that _should_ be built to proper highway standards

even if it only has a 'main road' plaque
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Old June 16th, 2009, 07:27 PM   #2152
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Will be. But is not now. But the "M" designation doesnt mean anything now. "M0" is an "M" too...now "M" only means something like major road.
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Old June 16th, 2009, 09:49 PM   #2153
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I like the road.
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Old June 16th, 2009, 11:53 PM   #2154
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Finally they opened that bypass.
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Old June 18th, 2009, 05:42 PM   #2155
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along road nr 1 today

starting from the industrial back-end of tatabánya


they used to transport coal on those things:




western edge of tatabánya, where nr1 and M1 meet




a slice of america. a rather fattening slice, but still



approaching vértesszőlős




a horrific picture of a stadler flirt speeding



entering vértesszőlős





vértesszőlős itself, typical hungarian small village except the road is much better






leaving vértesszőlős





approaching Tata over the Budapest-Wien railroad





entering the ancient town of Tata




as you can see, they allow 60 kph within town here




glimpse of Tata lake



continuing through Tata





road with platanus trees




leaving Tata, once again over the railroad




on road 1, between Tata and Almásfüzitő




a very progressive approach: they allow over 90kph speeds on some good sections of main roads, a 100kph example





this bit of asphalt is at least 35 years old, its at the crossing of road 1 and 10



and this bit between Almásfüzitő and Komárom has been renewed a couple of days ago (still had the new asphalt smell!!)














crossing the Bp-Wien railroad again





approaching komárom



typical small town..








now this is a good example of hungarian corruption: how the HELL does something like this get an MOT, let alone a green card???



going toward ács




and once again the same railroad


another typical small town




and a typical small road....it wont break your car...not immediatly but over time......
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Old June 19th, 2009, 12:14 AM   #2157
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Quality of road is really different, sometimes very good and then very bad. What is the distance you covered on these pics?

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Old June 19th, 2009, 11:24 AM   #2158
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thx

it was about 50 kms on the pix
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Old June 19th, 2009, 12:19 PM   #2159
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Main road with bike lane... Yumm!
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Main road with bike lane... Yumm!
to be fair, that is the main road of Komárom-Szőny as well, so it is definitely needed

and, practically half of the length of main road 1 inside KEM county will be rerouted: 12 km ringroad around Tata+Vértesszőlős and ~15 km ringroad around Komárom+Szőny+Almásfüzitő ...they are both needed badly

makes me wonder why they opted for repaving the section inside Komárom as opposed to the ringroad between road10 and where the new bridge will be built...


also, the section between Tatabánya-Vértesszőlős-Tata NEEDS a f'in cycle/walkpath!!! its insane, 100.000 people within kms and there is no cycle path!!!
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