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Old June 30th, 2009, 04:58 PM   #2201
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Old June 30th, 2009, 09:13 PM   #2202
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I made a exclusive picture for Verso. Ljubljana is signed on 86 just after Mosonmagyaróvár exit from M1.
Holy ****! I'd never go from Mosonmagyaróvár to Ljubljana here though, but through Austria. They could sign Lend(a)va, but it's so small. As for E65, it doesn't run through Slovenia (Rédics), but avoids it over Zalaegerszeg and Nagykanizsa.
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Old June 30th, 2009, 09:24 PM   #2203
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Aren't these short 2x2 section at crossings considered dangereous? Here we try to avoid such situations.
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Old June 30th, 2009, 09:58 PM   #2204
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Is it autout that road ?
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Old June 30th, 2009, 10:14 PM   #2205
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Is it autout that road ?
No, it's half-autoput.
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Old July 1st, 2009, 03:04 AM   #2206
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Can anyone please make an english translation / explanation of the various Hungarian terms defining high speed roads? Also, placing an emphasis on what of the lower class types can be later transformed into motorways?
Ideally, if examples (or whole lists of given types - existing and planned in the medium term future) could be given, it would be great
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Old July 1st, 2009, 11:45 AM   #2207
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There are 2:
Autópálya - motorway
Autóút - expressway
There is a common term for them,meaning,as you put it,high speed road - gyorsforgalmi út
Thats all.

There is no distinction between main roads with different speed limits.

Transformation of one into an other simply depends on technological details,like curve radiuses,gradients,etc. Both motorway and expressway have clear standards.
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Old July 1st, 2009, 03:21 PM   #2208
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Aren't these short 2x2 section at crossings considered dangereous?
Why?
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Old July 1st, 2009, 03:42 PM   #2209
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I heard a theory that people start to overtake like crazy and sometimes don't finish before the end of 2x2 section.
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Old July 1st, 2009, 03:53 PM   #2210
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Those sections aren't so short (usually ~2 km) and traffic is usually light, especially if you have these sections every 5 km, not so much traffic can accumulate behind a slow vehicle.
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Old July 1st, 2009, 03:59 PM   #2211
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Actually these new roads are the first ones where the inner lane disappears,not the outer. First was M0 east. Big leap forward towards safety.
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Old July 1st, 2009, 07:54 PM   #2212
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Is M4 near Budapest motorway or expressway ?
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Old July 1st, 2009, 11:43 PM   #2213
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Both motorway and expressway have clear standards.
Tell me what are the "clear" standards of the expressways?
Motorways are obviously build by the TEM standards (with more or less local modifications). But for expressways (as in autout, not as in the Eastern US meaning) there is no standard. I would appreciate if one could link to such a document.
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Old July 1st, 2009, 11:56 PM   #2214
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Expressway,where it exists.
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Old July 2nd, 2009, 12:13 AM   #2215
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Tell me what are the "clear" standards of the expressways?
Motorways are obviously build by the TEM standards (with more or less local modifications). But for expressways (as in autout, not as in the Eastern US meaning) there is no standard. I would appreciate if one could link to such a document.
AFAIK, the only standards are that expressways are grade-separated and do not pass through towns. I think most of them usually have 1+1 lanes like normal national roads, but there are also sections with 2+2, like M0 south and a short section of M2 in direction Vác.
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Old July 2nd, 2009, 02:30 AM   #2216
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Tell me what are the "clear" standards of the expressways?
Motorways are obviously build by the TEM standards (with more or less local modifications). But for expressways (as in autout, not as in the Eastern US meaning) there is no standard. I would appreciate if one could link to such a document.
Of course there is! Expressway means max 110,so the road must be able to support it.This means sufficiently smooth curves and gradient.

I cant provide sources,sorry.
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Old July 3rd, 2009, 03:52 PM   #2217
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Aren't these short 2x2 section at crossings considered dangereous? Here we try to avoid such situations.
This short section will be the future M86 (from Szombathely to Csorna). The Szeleste-Pósfa bypass is under construction (as far as I know), the uprage tender of Road 86 between Szombathely and Vát bypass is out.
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Old July 4th, 2009, 12:48 AM   #2218
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I have some photos of main (and other) state roads /offtopic but perhaps anyone interested /

No. 2


IC of 2 - M2 - 12 (Vác-North)


No. 5 at Röszke (SRB border)


No. 5 between Röszke and Szeged (not closed )


No. 5 between Röszke and Szeged at the kayak-canoe center (world championships were held in 1998 and 2006) (not E75 already, the parallel M5 is)


Roundabout of 5 and 502 (5 Szeged bypass)


Entering 502 from south


Roundabout of 502 and 55


502 between 55 and Kiskundorozsma (R=750 m)


Temporary ending of 502 at Kiskundorozsma (state road 5408) but you can see the embankment of the future road at the background


No. 7 at Balatonszárszó heading east


No. 7 btween Balatonszárszó and Balatonföldvár (2x2 lanes ~10 km)


No. 21 at about Pásztó


No. 21 2x2 also at about Pásztó


No. 21 at the south of Salgótarján


No. 25 between Kerecsend and Eger


No. 45 Szentes - Hódmezővásárhely


also


detto


No. 47 Algyő - Hódmezővásárhely


No. 47 Algyő - Szeged


No. 55 Leaving Szeged (2 km)


No. 55 IC of M5 near Domaszék (Szeged-West) (7 km)


No. 55 near Domaszék (11 km)


No. 55 between Domaszék and Mórahalom (with bike track) (15 km)


No. 55 in Mórahalom (20 km)


No. 55 between Ásotthalom and Tompa (37 km)

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Old July 4th, 2009, 10:00 AM   #2219
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part 2

No. 61 between Kaposvár and Nagybajom /it means "my big problem" / (I don't know if the border line still broken, it was a speciality of Somogy county, No. 7 had also sections with broken border line)


No. 66 no comment


No. 66


No. 66


No. 66


state "connection road" 4413 at Nagyfa (Csongrád county)


road 4418 (Hódmezővásárhely - Kardoskút) at the Csongrád county - Békés county border (width 4 m)


4418 again at the county border bridge


road 4502 between Csongrád and Bokros


road 4521 Szegvár - Mindszent


road 4521 and railway No. 130


road 4521 with the "bus stop" from the previous photo


road 5405 (future Szeged-Soltvadkert main road 531(?)) between Forráskút and Csólyospálos before reconstruction in 2004


again


again at Forráskút


5405 at Forráskút after reconstruction in 2006


again


again


and again


5405 at the end of the reconstructed section at the county border (width 7,50 m -> 6,00 m)


road 5512 between Röszke and Mórahalom (at Nagy Széksós lake nature reserve)


5512 again


5512 - M5 IC ahead


non-Great Plain road (sorry but I live in Szeged ) 2122 Nagylóc-Felsőtold


and the last one in part 2: 5302 between Fülöpjakab and Jakabszállás just before storm

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Old July 4th, 2009, 11:30 AM   #2220
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Nice pics. Some of them feel like the Midwest, well Hungary is probably the Midwest of Europe
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