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Old December 18th, 2009, 07:04 PM   #2701
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It's gonna be an offramp, according to these:



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Old December 18th, 2009, 07:37 PM   #2702
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M0 East didn't open until september 2008. Good chance he was there before it opened.


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I drove last year to Budapest on M5 and had to cross through the heart of the city to reach Szentendre, where we (me and my gf) stoped for the night. But the crossing of Budapest left scars upon us as we drove through a heavy storm, with a rain with cats and dogs and a darkened sky all the way to Szentendre... It was a nightmare. We strayed away several times, crossed the Danube many more times than we should and obviously missed the exit to Visegrad a couple of times. At the end of the day we were happy we were alive and the car is not damaged at all...
You should have used M0 east...

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So that is why I am so interested in that missing western link which would help me/everybody to avoid Budapest in order to get to M1 from Szentendre and viceversa.

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You should use M0 east...
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Old December 18th, 2009, 07:40 PM   #2703
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I drove last year to Budapest on M5
Last year was 2008. If he was there before september 2008, he couldn't use M0 East yet.
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Old December 18th, 2009, 09:23 PM   #2704
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Last year was 2008. If he was there before september 2008, he couldn't use M0 East yet.
I completely understand, and I wasn't writing "You should have used M0 east." I wasn't even reflecting on whether he was in Budapest or not.

I suggested him to use the M0 east, since the western section wont be built in the near future. From what he wrote, it looked like if he only had the western section as a solution in his mind, but probably it would be even longer to take that route.
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Old December 19th, 2009, 01:05 AM   #2705
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I was there (Budapest) in July 2008. At that time M0 was not completed in its north-eastern section and the new bridge over Danube was not opened either.

Right now I would definitely choose M0 (from 12 to 8 o'clock) to get from Szentendre to M1.

Good job, Hungary, for this very useful motorway-ring of your Capital City! Hope it won't take too long until it'll be done all the way round the clock...
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Old December 19th, 2009, 11:06 AM   #2706
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Right now I would definitely choose M0 (from 12 to 8 o'clock) to get from Szentendre to M1.
i don't know about it. ok, i was in Budapest at sunday last time and it is not realistic picture, but at sunday, i would definitely chose way through the city. i took M0 from Megyer bridge to M7 just o experience it and it was neverending driving, it is very long!
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Old December 19th, 2009, 11:12 AM   #2707
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It is a significant distance. Only the eastern side of M0 is already 55% longer than the entire Amsterdam ring road. (not sure if that's a good comparison though, but you'll get the gist).

[IMG]http://i47.************/2z7g02g.png[/IMG]

From Megyeri Bridge to M7 is 30 km through the city and 80 kilometers around the city. Traffic has to be really bad if you want to outrun that on M0.
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Old December 19th, 2009, 01:16 PM   #2708
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that's what i'm talking about. not to mention M2-M1 trip
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Old December 19th, 2009, 08:39 PM   #2709
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2009.12.19. - M70




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Old December 19th, 2009, 10:18 PM   #2710
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Seems like road might be even icy
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Old December 19th, 2009, 10:36 PM   #2711
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OMG... amazing... beautiful (and seems insecure) highways, greetings from chile
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Old December 19th, 2009, 10:42 PM   #2712
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sudden move with wheel -> pirouette -> car behind crashes into side -> 3rd car crashes into 2nd's ass

so typical at snow
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Old December 20th, 2009, 02:43 AM   #2713
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sudden move with wheel -> pirouette -> car behind crashes into side -> 3rd car crashes into 2nd's ass

so typical at snow
Lousy drivers...
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Old December 20th, 2009, 11:02 AM   #2714
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The whole region got nailed.
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Old December 22nd, 2009, 06:49 PM   #2715
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Slovakia will start to build the expressway section between Kosice and border with Hungary, around 15km. Hopefully Hungary will start to do something from Miskolc to the border soon, otherwise the slovak expressway will end into the lands
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Old December 22nd, 2009, 09:50 PM   #2716
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Slovakia will start to build the expressway section between Kosice and border with Hungary, around 15km. Hopefully Hungary will start to do something from Miskolc to the border soon, otherwise the slovak expressway will end into the lands
M30 expressway Novajidrány-Tornyosnémeti (SK border) section /18 km, 2x1 lanes/ is already opened since 2004. The road temporarily numbered main road no. 3., speed limit is 110 km/h.

At last it will have continuation in Slovakia...
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Old December 23rd, 2009, 12:18 AM   #2717
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Slovakia will start to build the expressway section between Kosice and border with Hungary, around 15km. Hopefully Hungary will start to do something from Miskolc to the border soon, otherwise the slovak expressway will end into the lands
Hungarians aren't going to built anything. R4 will end at present border crossing what will create nice useless curve right next to the border:


They already built bypass of Tornyosnémeti which merges with the old national road just before the border and than continues as I/68 in Slovakia. Now Slovaks will do the same. R4 will merge with I/68 before the border and it will continue as 3 or M30 in Hungary.

In Google Maps you can see U/C bypass of Tornyosnémeti which may help you to understand.
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Old December 23rd, 2009, 02:08 AM   #2718
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Yes I kow that road, I used often to travel there. I know it is a good road and the traffic is low, but at least Hungary should build the bypasses for the towns where the road n. 3 goes through.
I guess that when Hungary is ready, it will built a coplete new expressway, right? Not using some part of the existing road n. 3.
I think that the R4 had that curve to merge wit hthe old border, cause as I remember §Hungary didn't want at that time to create a new border crossing, but this was well before Schengen.
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Old December 23rd, 2009, 03:33 AM   #2719
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I guess that when Hungary is ready, it will built a coplete new expressway, right? Not using some part of the existing road n. 3.
Yes, will be a totally new road, because of the exceptionally low traffic we do not plan to build it:


source: BAZ county Regional Structural Plan 2009

But, there is a little problem, the hungarian and the slovak trace meet at right angles:





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Old December 23rd, 2009, 04:17 PM   #2720
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Yes, will be a totally new road,

But, there is a little problem, the hungarian and the slovak trace meet at right angles:
I think next to the border they will use present road 3 and just build second carriageway next to it. The rest of the M30 may be new road, but IMO they will use already built bypasses where possible. Some regional master-plan isn't fully binding. Anyway, traffic there is so low that 2x2 won't be needed for many years (Slovakia is obviously going to built 2x2 expressway form the beginning.)
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