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Old March 21st, 2010, 05:15 PM   #2901
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This temporary track is a design mistake
Actually from a designer point of view () it is pretty much correct for future continuation of M9. Although I agree, it could me done better.
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Old March 21st, 2010, 05:48 PM   #2902
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"M9 Palánk"

Not too informative who knows what is Palánk?



I like Hungarian signage but this is shit.

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I like the idea of signing bridges across the Danube though. There aren't many of them, and it's nice to know which exit to take to get across the river.
i agree, i have also noticed that. similar is in centre od Budapest, there you have direction signs to bridges, too (but you should know what are their names to know where you are )
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Old March 21st, 2010, 08:01 PM   #2903
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It's a temporary track, it will be demolished when M9 will be constructed.
And it's a mistake because of the radius of this curve is R=250 m which is very small, it allows the speed of 80 km/h, causeless and dangerous. This track should be parallel with the permanent track (R=500m).
In fact the M5-M43(-M9) itself is not the best one.
The traffic volume of Budapest M5 - Szeged (Makó) M43 direction is more than 2x bigger than Budapest - Röszke so the main direction should be the Budapest-Makó. Instead of this it has a simple one-lane offramp, with 5 curves in the permanent ic:


R=300 right
R=250 left
R=250 right
R=250 left
R=300 right

Great

It should be like this:


or even more this:

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Old March 21st, 2010, 09:07 PM   #2904
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Great drawings Atza.

But why make it simple when you can make it complicated and uncomfortable?
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Old March 21st, 2010, 09:51 PM   #2905
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first option is so old fashioned. it can be found in Italy (at least i saw it there often). second is probably the best because there are no totso's (i am alergic on them )
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Old March 22nd, 2010, 12:36 AM   #2906
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Thank you Atza! You are very informed by hihway plans. Are you studing/ working with it?
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Old March 22nd, 2010, 01:17 AM   #2907
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The first image isn't too bad if you consider the main traffic flows are all distributed via direct connector lanes, and not via cloverleaves.
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Old March 22nd, 2010, 01:48 AM   #2908
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The first image isn't too bad if you consider the main traffic flows are all distributed via direct connector lanes, and not via cloverleaves.
but anyway, all turns which have 270° at cloverleaf solution have tight turns at first solution, too
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Old March 22nd, 2010, 04:27 PM   #2909
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The first image isn't too bad if you consider the main traffic flows are all distributed via direct connector lanes, and not via cloverleaves.
Yes, you are right too, and it works of course.

Please do not misunderstand me anyone, we are all glad that we can use these roads at last, and i do not want to offend the designers, they did great job.

Interesting, that the original plans of M5 motorway to the state border were made at about 1986. And almost nothing had changed till the construction.
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Old March 22nd, 2010, 04:44 PM   #2910
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But "M9 Palánk" is still bad

This M9 is the wonder of Hungarian road developement:
we make an expensive expressway with a bridge over Duna river, and we cannot write anything on the signs where it goes...
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you are so funny with Palánk
btw it isn't even indicated at Google Earth
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The part of Szekszárd the village, more punctually puszta (Palánkpuszta), so former village. Totally insignificant dusty hole.
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Old March 23rd, 2010, 03:15 PM   #2913
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Photo gallery of the u/c M43 motorway bridge over the Tisza-river:

http://galeria.index.hu/gazdasag/201...3&image_size=m
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The part of Szekszárd the village, more punctually puszta (Palánkpuszta), so former village. Totally insignificant dusty hole.
there's some space left on that sign, maybe they gonna put a sticker saying Szekszárd north?
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iz Szekszárd in some relation with szeksz?
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there's some space left on that sign, maybe they gonna put a sticker saying Szekszárd north?
Szekszárd north - this would be too clear.
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Old March 24th, 2010, 09:31 PM   #2917
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iz Szekszárd in some relation with szeksz?
you mean szex?
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Old March 25th, 2010, 12:22 AM   #2918
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Old March 25th, 2010, 02:54 AM   #2919
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Budapest -> Várpalota

Budapest


Main road no 7.


Székesfehérvár


Main road no 8.


Várpalota


Random road
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Old March 25th, 2010, 03:42 PM   #2920
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Várpalota

Lengyel, magyar – két jó barát, együtt harcol, s issza borát, Polak, Węgier, dwa bratanki, i do szabli, i do szklanki
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