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Old April 11th, 2010, 04:49 PM   #3001
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Old April 13th, 2010, 08:55 AM   #3003
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Construction of M9 started:

http://www.nif.hu/multimedia/gallery/872
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Old April 13th, 2010, 12:00 PM   #3004
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Construction of M9 started:

http://www.nif.hu/multimedia/gallery/872
Good news! Thanx RawLee! Finally M9 will stretch towards the east from main road 51 till main road 54!



Projects between Main road 54 - 53 and Main road 53 - M5 (Szeged) are in preliminary stage. Both sections have environmental license/admission with the deadline of the 31st of December 2015, so these projects must be launched before that time.

Main road 54 - Main road 53



Main road 53 - M5 (Szeged)

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Old April 13th, 2010, 01:21 PM   #3005
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As I see on this map the roundabout on road 51 will be rebuilt as a grade separated IC with 2x2 lanes. Am I right? Any closer map?
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Old April 13th, 2010, 01:56 PM   #3006
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Main road 53 - M5 (Szeged)
And what about this route? The M9 will arrive at Szeged by the M43, won't it?
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Old April 13th, 2010, 04:09 PM   #3007
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What bypasses are planned in Budapest
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Old April 13th, 2010, 09:02 PM   #3008
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Qtya,

I think the Szekszárd-Dombóvár-Kaposvár section is much more urgent, than this 54-M5 section.
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Old April 13th, 2010, 10:02 PM   #3009
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Yes it's much more urgent because we have a big hole in our road network between Dombóvár and Szekszárd, but only studies are in progress... Meanwhile the 54-M5 section is in a more advanced state, so I think we should build them if we will ready with the plans.

@ Atza: Yes there will be 2x2 grade separated ICs at 51 and at 54 too.
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Old April 13th, 2010, 11:51 PM   #3010
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Qtya,

I think the Szekszárd-Dombóvár-Kaposvár section is much more urgent, than this 54-M5 section.
...Probably the entire (future) M9 is!
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Old April 14th, 2010, 10:09 AM   #3011
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@ Atza: Yes there will be 2x2 grade separated ICs at 51 and at 54 too.

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Old April 14th, 2010, 11:04 AM   #3012
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What are the specs of M9? A 2x2 Autóút all the way?
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Old April 14th, 2010, 11:54 AM   #3013
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I think the Szekszárd-Dombóvár-Kaposvár section is much more urgent, than this 54-M5 section.
No doubt about that! But I would extend it with the Kaposvár-Nagykanizsa section. No wonder the NIF homepage shows the Kaposvár-Nagykanizsa section as a planned MOTORWAY, and not an expressway. (Dombovár-Kaposvár section 15 km, 2x1)

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M9 autópálya(motorway), Kaposvár elkerülő Nyugat - Nagykanizsa

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M9 autópálya, Kaposvár elkerülő Nyugat - Nagykanizsa

Rövid összefoglaló:

A beruházás tartalma: 70 km hosszú, 2x2 forgalmisávos M9 autópálya szakasz nyomvonalának meghatározása és minisztériumi jóváhagyatása Kaposvár (610 sz. elkerülő út Ny-i vége) és Nagykanizsa (M7 ap. csomópont) között.

Finanszírozási forrás: Gyorsforgalmi utak

2009-ben az előzetes környezetvédelmi határozat megszerzéséhez szükséges munkarészek elkészítése fog megtörténni.

http://www.nif.hu/fejlesztes/666


But anyway, you are of course right. Even the NIF website points that out.

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M9 Dombóvár-Szekszárd

Hossz: 45 km

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M9 Dombóvár-Szekszárd

Hossza 45 km, 2x1 forgalmi sáv

Ennek a szakasznak a megvalósítása a legsürgetőbb (most urgent) hálózati szempontból, mivel az előző szakasz kiépítését egy ideig helyettesítheti a 61. számú főút. A szakaszra elkészült a megvalósíthatósági terv, ez alapján tanulmánytervet kell készíteni a szóba jöhető nyomvonal kiválasztására.

http://www.nif.hu/projekt/70
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Old April 14th, 2010, 02:40 PM   #3014
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What bypasses are planned in Budapest

nope.

**** off budapest! countryside rulez!
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Old April 14th, 2010, 02:56 PM   #3015
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The M9 is one giant bypass of Budapest. You can use it already from Croatia and Romania
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Old April 15th, 2010, 03:50 AM   #3016
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Is there any opposition to the fact that some part opf Hungarian network will actually a massive bypass of Budapest ??
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Old April 15th, 2010, 10:59 AM   #3017
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Is there any opposition to the fact that some part opf Hungarian network will actually a massive bypass of Budapest ??
Why would be any opposition? It is not very good in Hungary that all traffic (road and railway) are very centralized on Budapest. E.g. travelling from Szeged to Pecs by train is quickest thru Budapest, which, looking at the map, is quite ridiculous. A full M9 around the country in the south will be a very welcome development.
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Old April 15th, 2010, 08:29 PM   #3018
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E.g. travelling from Szeged to Pecs by train is quickest thru Budapest, which, looking at the map, is quite ridiculous.
ridiculous? why?

do you want to build a railway between szeged and pécs for 100 passanger/day?

that would be ridiculous...
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Old April 15th, 2010, 08:43 PM   #3019
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ridiculous? why?

do you want to build a railway between szeged and pécs for 100 passanger/day?

that would be ridiculous...
These people from Budapest are real pain in the ass. Originally this M9 was considered a part of the South Motorway. Of course that would have been the shortest route between Wienna and the Balkans (Beograd etc.)

Budapest, of course, did not support it, because it would have bypassed it entirely. If the South Motorway would have been built all the factories, trading centres, logistic facilities were built along Nagykanizsa - Szeged corridor (and not in Tatabánya, Komárom, Esztergom, Biatorbágy, Törökbáling, Budaörs).

And yes, there was the Transdanubian Highway too. That would have passed Budapest as well. Why, of course, it was blocked by Budapest too.

Pécs - Szeged railway connection existed in the Hungarian Kingdom and prospered well. It went through Osijek, and Vojvodina. The redrawn borders cut this line and was never rebult again.

The result: there is not any economic connection between Hungary's 5th and 6th largest cities. Shame, is not it?

**** off Budapest. It sucks the living blood out of the country.
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Old April 15th, 2010, 08:48 PM   #3020
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Is there any opposition to the fact that some part opf Hungarian network will actually a massive bypass of Budapest ??

the M8 and M9 would be a large half-circle and they would convert the current radial network to a large spiderweb radial-ring network.

(so they would function like a large budapest bypass...)

this is the long-term masterplan of the hungarian network...


the problem is that there many people who think this network have to be built right now.

but its a stupid idea.

this long term plan should be built slowly following the traffic needs...

it would be a waste of money to build motorways for AAT of 5000/day...

while traffic is low it would be enough to upgrade the main roads along the planned M8 and M9 whith bypasses and alignment corrections...
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