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Old June 19th, 2010, 11:31 PM   #3321
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And how long will be the delay?
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Old June 20th, 2010, 10:51 AM   #3322
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And how long will be the delay?
I don't know exactly, maybe just 1-2 months...
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Old June 20th, 2010, 11:03 AM   #3323
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But they sad, it will be a baypass for the bridge like this:

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Old June 20th, 2010, 01:37 PM   #3324
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Question:

http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=47...layers=B000FTF

Why do you think this is indicated as an existing road on OpenStreetMap?
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Old June 20th, 2010, 01:42 PM   #3325
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It's under construction. July 2009 imagery on Google Earth shows some earthworks being done, but I doubt if it is completed already. It's impossible to build a motorway from scratch in less than a year.
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Old June 20th, 2010, 01:50 PM   #3326
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It's under construction. July 2009 imagery on Google Earth shows some earthworks being done, but I doubt if it is completed already. It's impossible to build a motorway from scratch in less than a year.
Thanks but does not really answers my question. I don't know who makes this map, but it is strange that this M0 section is indicated as existing, however this is still far away from ready as far as I know.

On the other hand, M31 is almost ready, and that does not even show up on OpenStreetMaps. I know this is a wiki style thing, but i was still wondering how these discrepancies are possible.
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Old June 20th, 2010, 01:52 PM   #3327
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Btw, how do you find out when Google maps satellite images were taken?
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Old June 20th, 2010, 01:55 PM   #3328
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Yes, you can check whatever you want...

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Interesting, thank you. It seems like road 4 Budapest-Szolnok is quite busy, is M4 under construction? On the other hand, 10-12 ths. traffic on M6 Budapest-Dunaujvaros is not that much, so now I understand, that some people were making jokes about traffic on new M6 towards Pecs
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Old June 20th, 2010, 01:59 PM   #3329
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Old June 20th, 2010, 02:04 PM   #3330
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Thanks, Chris. The problem was I was looking at in in a browser at google maps, not in Google Earth.
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Old June 20th, 2010, 03:27 PM   #3331
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After a long delay M3 Nyíregyháza-Vásárosnamény section(46 km) construction starts soon, as contracts going to be signed on Tuesday.
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Old June 20th, 2010, 07:24 PM   #3332
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Old June 20th, 2010, 07:28 PM   #3333
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It seems like road 4 Budapest-Szolnok is quite busy, is M4 under construction?
no, it isnt and it won't be for a time...

so it is 9km long so far, and it terminates in a traffic light controlled at-grade intersection with an AADT of 30.000...

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On the other hand, 10-12 ths. traffic on M6 Budapest-Dunaujvaros is not that much, so now I understand, that some people were making jokes about traffic on new M6 towards Pecs

at least you understand...

unfortunately we have many fellow countrymen who don't...
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Old June 20th, 2010, 07:30 PM   #3334
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10.000 - 15.000 can be justified for a motorway. It will probably be around 30.000 vehicles around 2020.

On the other hand, I've been looking into Moroccan Autoroutes, some of their motorways have no more than 4.000 vehicles per day, and most sections are below 10.000 vehicles. So it's not that bad.

I think you're focusing too much on the traffic counts, and less on other issues like regional development, traffic safety and living circumstances in towns and villages on the old route. 10.000 through + 5.000 local traffic is already quite a lot for village routes. If they take those 10.000 to the motorway, it's a great improvement for that village.
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Old June 20th, 2010, 08:26 PM   #3335
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It's close to Budapest, so it's not that much. M1,3,5 and 7 near Budapest has more than 50.000 AADT. It's probably enough to have motorway there (M6), but this direction doesn't seem to be very important, compared to others...
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Old June 20th, 2010, 10:14 PM   #3336
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I think you're focusing too much on the traffic counts, and less on other issues like regional development, traffic safety and living circumstances in towns and villages on the old route. 10.000 through + 5.000 local traffic is already quite a lot for village routes. If they take those 10.000 to the motorway, it's a great improvement for that village.
I have said this about five times so far with the exact same arguments - you think it helped?
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Old June 21st, 2010, 01:17 AM   #3337
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M3-M31 interchange completed...





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Old June 21st, 2010, 11:17 AM   #3338
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M3-M31 interchange completed...

according to the signs (construction and speed limit), it is not completed yet...
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Old June 21st, 2010, 11:20 AM   #3339
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It's close to Budapest, so it's not that much. M1,3,5 and 7 near Budapest has more than 50.000 AADT. It's probably enough to have motorway there (M6), but this direction doesn't seem to be very important, compared to others...

yeah, exactly...

M4, M10, M2 (and M0 north-west) is much more important...
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Old June 21st, 2010, 11:24 AM   #3340
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at least you understand...

unfortunately we have many fellow countrymen who don't...
many sections of our (future) D1 had traffic similar to M6. between kralovany and ruzomberok, lipt. mikulas and svit cca 12.000, probably bypass of poprad (new counting is this year), between janovce and presov cca 10.000, tunnel branisko (price 250 mil. €) had 8.200 AADT. but traffic is not everything. it´s about accessability of regions and quality of journey... transit roads should not have 40-50 km/h limitations etc....
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