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Old July 7th, 2011, 01:37 PM   #4481
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Some errors to correct for first:
- M86 Szombathely - Vát should be U/C
- M85 Enese bypass U/C
- Main road 51 isn't 2x2 near Budapest
- Kisújszállás bypass opened yesterday on half-profile
- Debrecen northern bypass also U/C
- (M)44 is ready only between Bkékéscsaba and Gyula, the bypasses aren't 2x2
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Old July 7th, 2011, 01:47 PM   #4482
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Some errors to correct for first:
- M85 Enese bypass U/C
- Main road 51 isn't 2x2 near Budapest
- Kisújszállás bypass opened yesterday on half-profile
- Debrecen northern bypass also U/C
- (M)44 is ready only between Bkékéscsaba and Gyula, the bypasses aren't 2x2
I correct them after 2027.

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- M86 Szombathely - Vát should be U/C
This is not built currently. stop/c
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Old July 7th, 2011, 02:02 PM   #4483
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I know but I hope so that it will be again U/C soon.
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Old July 7th, 2011, 02:25 PM   #4484
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Some errors to correct for first:
- M86 Szombathely - Vát should be U/C
- M85 Enese bypass U/C
- Main road 51 isn't 2x2 near Budapest
- Kisújszállás bypass opened yesterday on half-profile
- Debrecen northern bypass also U/C
- (M)44 is ready only between Bkékéscsaba and Gyula, the bypasses aren't 2x2
- Kaposvár bypass half-profile
- M70 widening 2027-2040 (AFAIK)
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Old July 7th, 2011, 03:47 PM   #4485
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- Kaposvár bypass half-profile
2x2+2x1 mixed like the Békéscsaba-Gyula
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Old July 8th, 2011, 04:55 AM   #4486
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Oops, I forgot to post it here, so M0:
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Old July 8th, 2011, 09:31 AM   #4487
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Looks like Bucharest's northern ring section. However, I note you have more space there for expansions.
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Old July 8th, 2011, 10:33 AM   #4488
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Looks like Bucharest's northern ring section. However, I note you have more space there for expansions.
If you check cross-way bridges you can see that this road is planned as a dual carriage full motorway but only one carriageway was built. Widening is u/c, it was seriously needed since this section has an AADT of 100,000. This section is congested so hard that it is broadcasted in radio news if there is no jam. At least 2-3 times a week there is such a congestion there that causes a delay of 1 hour or more.
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Old July 8th, 2011, 11:50 AM   #4489
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I see. The north Bucharest ring was expanded last year to a 2x2 road, but there is little change to be turned into a motorway like in Budapest, because it is squeezed between the rail ring on one side and industrial and logistical developments on the other.
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Old July 10th, 2011, 10:17 PM   #4490
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M7 today:




http://www.origo.hu/itthon/20110710-...st-erdnel.html

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http://index.hu/bulvar/2011/07/10/le...y_turistabusz/


0 injured. Only the bus burned out...
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Old July 11th, 2011, 12:28 AM   #4491
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On late afternoons and nights on summer Sundays M7 is often crowded due to weekend traffic (from Balaton -> back to the country, mostly to Budapest).

Last year I experienced a tipical Sunday jam: it was heavily congested from Balatonvilágos to Székesfehérvár, speed was usually 80km/h and often dropped 60-40 km/h, from Székesfehérvár to Budapest (3 lanes) speed was around 100 km/h due to most of the people was travelling in the middle lane...


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2 pics of main road 8 from Friday morning.

Facing towards the border:


Facing towards Székesfehérvár:
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Old July 11th, 2011, 10:08 AM   #4492
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(3 lanes) speed was around 100 km/h due to most of the people was travelling in the middle lane...
Of course most of people is travelling in the middle lane because the right lane is full of trucks and other slow vehicles (80 km/h).

But I think it's the right way of usage the 3 lanes:

- right lane: trucks, camions, buses, Lada Samaras (80-100 km/h)
- middle lane: cars on average speed (110-125 km/h)
- left lane: faster cars and overtaking (>125 km/h).
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Old July 11th, 2011, 10:19 AM   #4493
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Of course most of people is travelling in the middle lane because the right lane is full of trucks and other slow vehicles (80 km/h).

But I think it's the right way of usage the 3 lanes:

- right lane: trucks, camions, buses, Lada Samaras (80-100 km/h)
- middle lane: cars on average speed (110-125 km/h)
- left lane: faster cars and overtaking (>125 km/h).
Don't forget, there's a truck ban in summer Sundays in Hungary.
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Old July 11th, 2011, 05:12 PM   #4494
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the right lane was mostly empty...

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A picture from yesterday:
M7, 89 km from Budapest
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Old July 12th, 2011, 02:39 PM   #4495
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people in the middle lane going 100 km/h is certainly a problem, for example i was driving home on M7 this Sunday (just before the bus fire, so I was lucky) an there were a few situations where there was about 50 cars getting stuck behind someone in the middle; some managed to overtake, others had to slow down as faster people were coming in the left lane and they couldn't overtake the sleepdriver in the middle.
it's also funny when i am driving in the outside (right) lane at say 120 km/h and I'm passing all the people jammed up in the middle and left lanes. Or when they are just driving there in the middle and I am faster than them in the right lane. note: I'm not overtaking on the wrong side, I'm just traveling in my lane.
And you can see they either don't even notice they are being passed from all sides, obstructing traffic, or you can see them being irritated being passed on the right not realizing they are the one in the wrong being in the middle when they shouldn't be.

it seems like some people make a prestige thing out of which lane they travel in as if you are considered weaker if you are in the slow lane (when in fact sometimes you are faster- this applies to Budapest too)
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Old July 13th, 2011, 04:00 PM   #4496
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Old July 14th, 2011, 01:21 PM   #4497
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What do you think? Is it compicated? Turbo roundabout in Érd:












More pics: http://galeria.totalcar.hu/velemeny/...4&image_size=l
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Old July 14th, 2011, 01:42 PM   #4498
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It's not complicated at all... if you are on the right lane. Chris will be happy when he will see it
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Old July 14th, 2011, 02:29 PM   #4499
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It's in use for at least a year but people don't like it, they say it's complicated...
My opinion is that if someone cant figure out how to use a turbo roundabout than he/she shouldn't drive...
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Old July 14th, 2011, 04:09 PM   #4500
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It is the very first thurbo-roundabout in Hungary and dirvers that don't use it regularly may be confused seeing it. That's all. Anything else is idiotism.
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