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Old November 16th, 2011, 04:50 AM   #4821
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I meant to post this. sorry!
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Old November 16th, 2011, 04:53 AM   #4822
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Nice view
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Old November 16th, 2011, 10:37 AM   #4823
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Some congestions on M0. On the non-existing section of M0.
M0 is such a congested road that there are even congestions on sections which have not been build yet.
At least according to Google Maps. (<- Click)
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Old November 16th, 2011, 11:05 AM   #4824
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Some congestions on M0. On the non-existing section of M0.
M0 is such a congested road that there are even congestions on sections which have not been build yet.
At least according to Google Maps. (<- Click)
That would follow naturally from Google's mistake of thinking that that section of the M0 had been built. The congestion monitoring is based on the time it takes for mobile phones to get from one part of the road to another. Since all the mobile phones moving from one place to another where there is no motorway will need a long time on the surface streets, the computer will classify that as congestion.
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Old November 16th, 2011, 01:37 PM   #4825
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iteresting. but there are no streets there. maybe some construction workers moving along that section with their cell phones?
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Old November 16th, 2011, 03:11 PM   #4826
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iteresting. but there are no streets there. maybe some construction workers moving along that section with their cell phones?
Maybe it's people driving around to the north? That's about twice as far, so the computer would think they drove about half as fast as they did.
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Old November 17th, 2011, 10:07 AM   #4827
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that might be it. btw no big surprise that so many people have paranoia nowadays, we are obviously being watched all the time. and the system seems fairly uptodate, as it is changing. so just wait until 2020 - when this section gets completed - and it will all turn green. touch of a magic wand.
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Old November 21st, 2011, 01:08 AM   #4828
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On M1 you can drive without vignette between the border crossing and exit 168 (and Győr, Tatabánya bypass)
How about to pay the toll at Moson Pihenöhely? I did this for years when driving to Budapest, but was always unsure if this legal or not. Can I continue doing so (like many others), or do I have to pay right at the border? Thanks for your answers!
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Old November 21st, 2011, 06:02 AM   #4829
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On M1 you can drive without vignette between the border crossing and exit 168
Not according to this map.
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Old November 21st, 2011, 10:12 AM   #4830
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That's exactly why I ask. But as I remember, the first numberplate scanners are installed after exit 160 (Mosonmagyaróvár), so maybe it's "de facto" for free.
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Old November 21st, 2011, 11:39 AM   #4831
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It seems to be that the section close to border was changed to tolled in 2010, but I remember that before that it was free.

This is a bit newer map of the tolled and free sections:


As far as I know if you buy your e-vignette during your jurney on the motorway (or on the day of your jurney?) you won't get fined. But I'm not sure. I allways buy it before entering the motorway, you can buy it via SMS and Internet as well, take a look at it here.

Btw there are also mobile numberplate scanners, so it's not that easy to fool the system.
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Old November 21st, 2011, 05:55 PM   #4832
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another map where M30 Miskolc bypass is marked as tolled, but I think it isn't. It's not even motorway, from exit Miskolc-del (road 304) to the north it's just 2+2 road with speed limit 110kph
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Old November 21st, 2011, 06:02 PM   #4833
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As far as I know if you buy your e-vignette during your jurney on the motorway (or on the day of your jurney?) you won't get fined.
http://www.motorway.hu/02Ematrica/01Dijtablazat2011:
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The sales points located along toll road sections are not intended to sell authorisations for the current trip, but to make the purchase easier for future trips. This means that the mobile groups can also check motorway authorisations at the sales points alongside the toll sections. In such occasions, the indication of the intention to purchase road-use authorisation does not exempt the driver from the obligation to pay an excess charge.
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Old November 21st, 2011, 08:20 PM   #4834
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I always wondered what the exact rights and possibilities of these "mobile groups" are - they can hardly be equal to those of police officers?! What if a vehicle does not stop at their sign? Can they apply any force?
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Old November 21st, 2011, 09:53 PM   #4835
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you don't need to be stopped to get fined... Don't know what happens if you have foreign plates, though. I suggest everyone entering Hungary at Hegyeshalom on M1 to buy the vignette at the border. The vendor is clearly signed near the motorway.
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Old November 21st, 2011, 10:07 PM   #4836
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I suggest everyone entering Hungary at Hegyeshalom on M1 to buy the vignette at the border. The vendor is clearly signed near the motorway.
I have noticed, that much more then half of the people cross the border and drive without vignette to Moson Pihenöhely and buy it there at the MOL-shop.
I did so too, except the last two times I went to Hungary. Then I bought it right after the border.
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Old November 21st, 2011, 11:48 PM   #4837
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One of my friend after driving 100-150 km on M7 noticed that he forgot to buy a vignette, so he did it on the road, and later he didn't get a fine. Maybe he was lucky.
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Old November 22nd, 2011, 07:35 PM   #4838
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One of my friend after driving 100-150 km on M7 noticed that he forgot to buy a vignette, so he did it on the road, and later he didn't get a fine. Maybe he was lucky.
no he wasnt. when you start your trip f.e. at 0:00 you can buy the vignette on the same day latest on 23:59...
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Old November 22nd, 2011, 08:47 PM   #4839
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Very clever.
The purpose of a fine is not to make money on people.
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Old November 24th, 2011, 01:58 AM   #4840
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no he wasnt. when you start your trip f.e. at 0:00 you can buy the vignette on the same day latest on 23:59...
Good info thanks. Few weeks ago I went on M3 and wanted to buy vignette via text message. (You have to send two texts, one with your license plate number, you get an answer about the transaction and details, then you send the second text with the confirmation.) My phone's battery went dead between the two texts, which I didn't notice, so I didn't send the confirmation. I sent it hours later when I noticed that I have forgot about the whole thing...
I wasn't sure whether to expect a fine, I thought it wouldn't be a problem and nothing appened since then.
But it's good to know the general practice.
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