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Old December 26th, 2011, 02:19 AM   #4941
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Old December 26th, 2011, 06:29 AM   #4942
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EU sign at an internal EU border for x-type. Nice pics, btw.

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What does the sign by Hegyeshalom mean? It doesn't seem to be a sign for a border crossing (customs).
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Old December 26th, 2011, 09:17 AM   #4943
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So, there is the 80 km/h speed limit --> you go 80. But just a few meters away there is that autobahn sign, which means 130 km/h. How fast can you go after that sign?
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Old December 26th, 2011, 10:27 AM   #4944
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The EU sign is probably old, pre Hungary entry. The other sign seems to me that in 3 km the overtaking for trucks is allowed.As far as I know in Hungary trucks over 7,5 t. can't overtake on motorways and on M1 even over 3,5t.

Interesting Austria already dismlantled the border infrastructure why Hungary did nothing.

Bogdymol, I think you are right, the motorway sign means 130 km/h so Austrians should put the 80km/h limit after that sign not before.
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Old December 26th, 2011, 10:40 AM   #4945
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Interesting Austria already dismlantled the border infrastructure why Hungary did nothing.
Question: that border checkpoint at Hegyeshalom lies completely on hungarian soil, so correct me if I am wrong, but eventhough it was once shared with the Austrians, its Hungary's job to remove that complex. Right?
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Old December 26th, 2011, 11:34 AM   #4946
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As far as I know in Austria the signs of motorway, expressway, inhabitated area, and the end signs of all of them do not make the speed limits invalid so that you have to drive at 80 even after that motorway sign.
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Old December 26th, 2011, 11:36 AM   #4947
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EU sign at an internal EU border for x-type. Nice pics, btw.

What does the sign by Hegyeshalom mean? It doesn't seem to be a sign for a border crossing (customs).
I'm not sure but I think it's a border custom sign having a red strike through which means there is no more a border station at Hegyeshalom.
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Old December 26th, 2011, 11:45 AM   #4948
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EU sign at an internal EU border for x-type. Nice pics, btw.
interesting one, haven't seen it anywhere else except in SLO
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btw, i see on Google maps there is signed eastern bypass of Nagykanizsa (road 61). when was that road built? must be something new, right?
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Old December 26th, 2011, 12:20 PM   #4950
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As far as I know in Austria the signs of motorway, expressway, inhabitated area, and the end signs of all of them do not make the speed limits invalid so that you have to drive at 80 even after that motorway sign.
You are right.
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Old December 26th, 2011, 12:26 PM   #4951
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What does the sign by Hegyeshalom mean? It doesn't seem to be a sign for a border crossing (customs).
It's mandatory stop sign, saying "Határellenőrzés/Border control" from the era before Schengen but after EU, now sticked down with a red tape after Schengen, since you don't have to stop any more. Before EU it was saying "Vám/Zoll".
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Old December 27th, 2011, 03:04 AM   #4952
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I never knew about those temporary signs. Why don't they erase it altogether like by other ex-border crossings (Rábafüzes, Rédics, Rajka ...)?

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As far as I know in Austria the signs of motorway, expressway, inhabitated area, and the end signs of all of them do not make the speed limits invalid so that you have to drive at 80 even after that motorway sign.
That would mean there would have to be 130-km/h speed limit signs everywhere, but I've never seen any. They should've put the 80 sign after the motorway sign. But why would you have to drive so slowly even after the motorway sign?
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Old December 27th, 2011, 03:21 AM   #4953
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Take a look on bogdymol's video of austrian A4. There you can see, that the speed limit (80km/h) ends after the rest area Nickelsdorf.
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Old December 27th, 2011, 06:33 AM   #4954
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Take a look on bogdymol's video of austrian A4.
Where is it?
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Old December 27th, 2011, 09:56 AM   #4955
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That would mean there would have to be 130-km/h speed limit signs everywhere, but I've never seen any. They should've put the 80 sign after the motorway sign. But why would you have to drive so slowly even after the motorway sign?
No, no, your understanding is wrong :-) If you drive a road outside inhabitated area which has no special speed limit (i.e. you may drive at 100 km/h) and you see a motorway sign, you may drive at 130 right after the motorway sign. But if you have a special speed limit (e.g. 80 km/h) then it is valid even after the motorway sign until it is cancelled (like THIS sign). After the "end of speed limit" sign you may drive at 130 so that there's no need for a 130 sign.
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Old December 27th, 2011, 10:12 AM   #4956
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Old December 27th, 2011, 06:23 PM   #4957
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End-of-80 is at 1:27. That's so complicated, it should be the same in whole Europe. Btw, Austrians added general speed limit 50 km/h in built-up areas at 1:06.
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Old December 28th, 2011, 06:44 PM   #4958
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Will the motorway tolls increase in 2012?
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Old December 28th, 2011, 06:53 PM   #4959
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I heard that 4-day vignette will not be available anymore since the first day of the new year. Is it true? If yes, how much will the 10-day (minimum) vignette cost next year?
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Old December 28th, 2011, 08:57 PM   #4960
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No official declaration until tonight. And you know the current Hungarian government can change its mind any time. So nothing is sure now.
Presumably the 4 day sticker will not be available for cars. For trucks both the 1 day and 4 day sticker remains available (it is an EU rule to offer 1 day and 4 day stickers for trucks).
For cars the 10 day sticker will probably cost 2,975 forint (approx. €9.70), yearly 42,980 forint (€140).
Calculated in euro the fees will be less than e.g. last summer because of the serious devaluation of our currency (1 euro was 265 forint half a year ago and is 306 forint today). Calculated in forint it's an increasement of 7-8% generally, and approx. 80% for people that used the 4 day sticker until now.
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