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Old August 12th, 2012, 07:03 AM   #5361
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Sounds good. I sort of knew you had a good reason to use that route.



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Well,i drive thru Slovenia and Croatia but not because it is faster but because i feel like home when i cross the Austrian/Slovenian border
Maybe next time i drive thru Hungary to remember the old times cause my father in the 80´s almost every time drived thru hungary,mostly the route Subotica-Kiskunhalas-Dunaföldvar-Dunaujvaros-Szekesfehervar-Györ-Border and 2 or 3 times the Route over Sombor-Baja,he thought he was clever and drived thru Hungary to avoid the traffic jam on the Ljubljana-Beograd route but imo that was a mistake.A few times he drives over Graz-Maribor and the Podravska Magistrala and that imo was the best way.Anyway,if i drive thru Hungary,now that the M6 exists i will be taking the route Sombor-Baja-Szekszard to Budapest cause i live in a small village near Novi Sad and if i want to take the motorway i have to drive back to Novi Sad,thru the City and so on,in that time i can be in Odzaci allready.And the motorway route is longer cause the road goes thru Szeged and not directly from Subotica to Budapest and i have something new to watch
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Old August 12th, 2012, 05:13 PM   #5362
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well i think M6 is a very nice alternative for people travelling from serbia to austria and beyond. and until were not done with widening M0 between M6 and M5 one can also spare that shitty, narrow section of M0 by using M6.

as a matter of fact i have no idea in what condition novi sad-sombor road is in serbia, but hercegszántó-baja-bátaszék road(s) is quite OK...
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Old August 23rd, 2012, 05:39 PM   #5363
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Finally, the construction can begin!

After the winner was announced today, the Duna Aszfalt Kft. can start the construction of M43's last section between Makó and the Romanian border (A1).

Scheduled start of the development: 09.2012
Scheduled opening: 09.2014

http://www.nif.hu/hu/hirek/Orszaghat..._M43_autopalya
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Old August 23rd, 2012, 07:07 PM   #5364
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Finally, the construction can begin!

After the winner was announced today, the Duna Aszfalt Kft. can start the construction of M43's last section between Makó and the Romanian border (A1).

Scheduled start of the development: 09.2012
Scheduled opening: 09.2014

http://www.nif.hu/hu/hirek/Orszaghat..._M43_autopalya


What a happy coincidence! Just three days ago have started in Romania the tender procedures for the remaining 4 Lots of A1 motorway between Hungarian border and Sibiu (Nagyszeben). Over 50 companies and joint-ventures placed their bids to build Timişoara-Lugoj Lot 2 and Lugoj-Deva Lots 2,3,4. So we could hope for a continuous motorway between Hungarian border (Nădlac/Nagylak) and Sibiu by the end of 2014.
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Old August 23rd, 2012, 07:26 PM   #5365
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Finally, the construction can begin!

After the winner was announced today, the Duna Aszfalt Kft. can start the construction of M43's last section between Makó and the Romanian border (A1).

Scheduled start of the development: 09.2012
Scheduled opening: 09.2014

http://www.nif.hu/hu/hirek/Orszaghat..._M43_autopalya
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What a happy coincidence! Just three days ago have started in Romania the tender procedures for the remaining 4 Lots of A1 motorway between Hungarian border and Sibiu (Nagyszeben). Over 50 companies and joint-ventures placed their bids to build Timişoara-Lugoj Lot 2 and Lugoj-Deva Lots 2,3,4. So we could hope for a continuous motorway between Hungarian border (Nădlac/Nagylak) and Sibiu by the end of 2014.
Or better said: continous motorway from anywhere in Europe to Sibiu.

*the statement above is false: to get to the new M43 motorway from anywhere in Europe you have to pass through Budapest bypass, M0, which is not a motorway, but an expressway

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** or you can drive just on motorways via Serbia and Croatia
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Old August 23rd, 2012, 07:55 PM   #5366
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*the statement above is false: to get to the new M43 motorway from anywhere in Europe you have to pass through Budapest bypass, M0, which is not a motorway, but an expressway
but M0 will be a 2x3 "expressway" next summer from M7 to M5. and the fact that it is signed as an expressway is just pure hungarian idiotism. its still a motorway (speaking only of the upgraded or new sections of course)

in hungary the expressway sign was misinterpreted. putting M0 and lets say M15 in the same category is a bit dizzy...
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Old August 23rd, 2012, 08:17 PM   #5367
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It is a bit of a coincidence that the 2x3+1 section of M0 between M7 and M6 was opened to traffic today. The M6-M5 section is u/c.
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Old August 23rd, 2012, 08:45 PM   #5368
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yeah youre right, i meant M6-M5 section.

anyway my point was that -apart from M1-M7 section- to the end of 2014 it will be possible to get to sibiu from every corner of europe on at least 2x2 lanes, on full profile motorway.

(except on M15 and M70)
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Old August 24th, 2012, 05:06 PM   #5369
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110 km/h sections of main road 3

M3-Gyöngyös













Novajidrány-Garadna bypass (future M30)















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Old August 24th, 2012, 07:47 PM   #5370
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do they flip a coin to determine which road is eligible for 110 km/h and which not? M2 -> 2x2 section > 90 km/h
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Old August 24th, 2012, 09:12 PM   #5371
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You can watch it muted

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Old August 25th, 2012, 12:09 AM   #5372
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Perhaps a question that has been asked a 1000 times before (but I didn'f find where, so I ask it here).

The Hungarian prefix for motorways is M, but the Hungarian word Autopalya starts with an A. So where comes the M-prefix from ?
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Old August 25th, 2012, 12:10 AM   #5373
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I believe it's simply from Magyarország.
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Old August 25th, 2012, 10:01 AM   #5374
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do they flip a coin to determine which road is eligible for 110 km/h and which not? M2 -> 2x2 section > 90 km/h
While speeds on motorway network (M roads) is controlled by the State Motorway Management Ltd (ÁAK Zrt.), the other road network is controlled by the local Hungarian Roads Management Company (Magyar Közút N. Zrt.).
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Old August 25th, 2012, 10:17 AM   #5375
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Perhaps a question that has been asked a 1000 times before (but I didn'f find where, so I ask it here).

The Hungarian prefix for motorways is M, but the Hungarian word Autopalya starts with an A. So where comes the M-prefix from ?
Hungarian motorway network is signed disparately since 1961:

1961-1965: Roman numerals (I, VII)
1965-: "M" character* ** (Motorway and Magyarország)

* "A" character was a possible alternative but it was casted off
** In the early '90s the future expressways were signed with "S" character (like Austrian Schnellstraße, S2, S3, S4, S6, S8, S9, S21, S35, S44, S47, S56, S81, S84) but S letter was cancelled mostly by political reasons
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Old August 25th, 2012, 10:24 AM   #5376
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1965-: "M" character* ** (Motorway and Magyarország)
And probably "Magistral" like in the Soviet Union.
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Old August 25th, 2012, 11:53 AM   #5377
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While speeds on motorway network (M roads) is controlled by the State Motorway Management Ltd (ÁAK Zrt.), the other road network is controlled by the local Hungarian Roads Management Company (Magyar Közút N. Zrt.).
like i said:

no wonder most hungarians dont obey speed limits. most speed limits in hungary simply dont make any sense, no matter if the road belongs to "magyar közút" or "áák"

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** In the early '90s the future expressways were signed with "S" character (like Austrian Schnellstraße, S2, S3, S4, S6, S8, S9, S21, S35, S44, S47, S56, S81, S84) but S letter was cancelled mostly by political reasons
thank god the s system wasnt introduced in hungary. it also makes no sense in austria (-> f.e. why continuing austrian A7 as S10??? wtf?)
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Old August 25th, 2012, 01:05 PM   #5378
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I believe "M" comes from "műút" - "artificial road".
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Old August 25th, 2012, 01:35 PM   #5379
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I have done some research in connection with this, asking elderly people who were directly involved with road/ motorway constructions at the traffic ministry level in the mid 60-s, when this question was decided. According to Bognár Vid the "M" was imported from the British system, and it just coincided with the word "Magyar". It has nothing to do with Soviet abbreviations, partly because there were no freeways it the SU at the time.
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Old August 25th, 2012, 03:28 PM   #5380
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What about new tender of stretch M3 Vaja-Vasarosnameny?
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