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Old June 13th, 2013, 09:34 AM   #5901
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I had always considered M0 to be the most problematic stretch of route when going from Szeged to Regensburg or further, but now when it's finally about to be widened for good, it's a pleasure driving on the already opened new parts. A good work!
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Old June 13th, 2013, 09:51 AM   #5902
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I have thought the M85 enese - györ is already under construction.
Nope, just starting...
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Old June 13th, 2013, 12:55 PM   #5903
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The cost of the last stretch of M43 to the Romanian border: a little over 3 bln HUF/km. That is over 10 million Euro/km. The cost of the same freeway on the Romanian side till Arad: 1.13 bln HUF / km. that is about 3.3 million Euro/km.

I am sorry to write this, but it is just obvious that the corruption level in Hungary is way higher now than that of Romania. It used to be a different story. Our present government and those who support it made this change happen. "Thank you" falks.
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Old June 13th, 2013, 02:19 PM   #5904
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ok, tényleg kicsit sok, de: cserébe a milyenken lesznek táblák, nem 50 kilométerenként lesz csp rajta, lesz benzinkút, lesz pihenöhely és vadvédökerités, söt növényzet a mediánban, valamint nem kell 1 év után újraaszfaltozni mint pl az aradi szakaszt.

ott is lopnak, csak ott még a minöség is fos.

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Old June 13th, 2013, 03:01 PM   #5905
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I am sorry to write this, but it is just obvious that the corruption level in Hungary is way higher now than that of Romania. It used to be a different story. Our present government and those who support it made this change happen. "Thank you" falks.
I don't think that, but this discussion is on another forum. Romania has one of the highest level of corruption in Europe (Spain also I Know, I don't like to compare between countries because it's only the way to discuss and I don't want it.)
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Old June 13th, 2013, 03:58 PM   #5906
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ok, tényleg kicsit sok, de: cserébe a milyenken lesznek táblák, nem 50 kilométerenként lesz csp rajta, lesz benzinkút, lesz pihenöhely és vadvédökerités, söt növényzet a mediánban, valamint nem kell 1 év után újraaszfaltozni mint pl az aradi szakaszt.

ott is lopnak, csak ott még a minöség is fos.
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Old June 13th, 2013, 05:58 PM   #5907
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I've tried to collect the currently ongoing motorway-expressway projects in Hungary:

U/C:
M0: M6 - 51 (11 km)
M0: 51 - M5 (6 km)
M3: Vaja - Vásárosnamény (12 km)
M43: Makó - RO border (23 km)
M86: Szombathely - Vát (9 km)
Σ: 61 km

Contract signed (might be u/c already):
M85: M1 - Enese bypass (7 km)
M85 - M86: Csorna bypass (12,5 km)
Σ: 19,5 km

Tendered:
M4: Abony - Fegyvernek (29 km)
M85: Enese bypass - Csorna bypass (7 km)
M86: Szeleste - Hegyfalu (7,5 km)
M86: Hegyfalu - Csorna bypass (33 km)
road 8: Márkó - Herend (5,5 km)
road 8: Pétfürdő - Hajmáskér (6,5 km)
Σ: 88,5 km

Σ: 169 km
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Old June 13th, 2013, 06:05 PM   #5908
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Thx for the collection.

I'm pretty sure M60 Pécs bypass 2nd phase will also be tendered soon.
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Old June 13th, 2013, 10:00 PM   #5909
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ok, tényleg kicsit sok, de: cserébe a milyenken lesznek táblák, nem 50 kilométerenként lesz csp rajta, lesz benzinkút, lesz pihenöhely és vadvédökerités, söt növényzet a mediánban, valamint nem kell 1 év után újraaszfaltozni mint pl az aradi szakaszt.

ott is lopnak, csak ott még a minöség is fos.
Ok, as a matter of fact I care little about how much they steal in Romania. For your info though: afaik the Nyíregyháza-Vaja section cost roughly 1 bln HUF/km. That is cca 3.3 million Euro/km. And I do not know about any complaints concerning the quality. The terrain is very similar to the Makó - Nagylak section. Only the government is different. Is it not obvious? I care about this. Maybe because I have not emigrated...
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Old June 14th, 2013, 11:50 PM   #5910
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M0 yesterday

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Old June 17th, 2013, 03:59 PM   #5911
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Thx for the collection.

I'm pretty sure M60 Pécs bypass 2nd phase will also be tendered soon.
According to a fresh press release from the National Infrastructure Developer the 62 km long section of M44 between Tiszakürt and Kondoros will be tendered Q3-Q4 2013, and construction can start next year.

http://nif.hu/hu/hirek/Jovore_elindu...szanak_epitese
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Old June 17th, 2013, 04:17 PM   #5912
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According to a fresh press release from the National Infrastructure Developer the 62 km long section of M44 between Tiszakürt and Kondoros will be tendered Q3-Q4 2013, and construction can start next year.
According to that plan, the M44 will be an expressway (Autout) and not a full motorway (Autopalya). The first section is scheduled for the 2011-2016 cycle, the next eastern section up to Bekescsaba for 2017-2020, and the western section up to the M5/M8 is scheduled for 2021-2024 cycle.

Is that schedule still valid?
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Old June 17th, 2013, 05:25 PM   #5913
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I've read in Wikipedia that M-15 (connection with Slovakia) is not a motorway (2x2), but in google maps it appears like a free motorway. How is that road? I search photos of them, but I don't found.
Here are my photos from 2005 (note the border crossings were in operation at that time)

1. Traffic sign informing about exit (on M1)


2. M-15 (note the overpasses prepared to 2x2 extension)


3. M-15's last exit



4. Border crossing Rajka (Hungary) - at that time in use


Border crossing: Bratislava - Jarovce (Slovakia) (at that time in use as well)
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Old June 17th, 2013, 11:01 PM   #5914
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What is not legible in photo no. 3: inscription "VÁM - ZOLL" in red circle has already been changed to "Határellenőrzés - Border control".
At that time, EU but no Schengen yet ...
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Old June 18th, 2013, 11:09 AM   #5915
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According to that plan, the M44 will be an expressway (Autout) and not a full motorway (Autopalya). The first section is scheduled for the 2011-2016 cycle, the next eastern section up to Bekescsaba for 2017-2020, and the western section up to the M5/M8 is scheduled for 2021-2024 cycle.

Is that schedule still valid?
no continuous M30 in 2027? It seems like Hungary don't care about Via Carpathia as much as Poland
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Old June 18th, 2013, 12:49 PM   #5916
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I've tried to collect the currently ongoing motorway-expressway projects in Hungary:

U/C:
M0: M6 - 51 (11 km)
M0: 51 - M5 (6 km)
M3: Vaja - Vásárosnamény (12 km)
M43: Makó - RO border (23 km)
M86: Szombathely - Vát (9 km)
Σ: 61 km

Contract signed (might be u/c already):
M85: M1 - Enese bypass (7 km)
M85 - M86: Csorna bypass (12,5 km)
Σ: 19,5 km

Tendered:
M4: Abony - Fegyvernek (29 km)
M85: Enese bypass - Csorna bypass (7 km)
M86: Szeleste - Hegyfalu (7,5 km)
M86: Hegyfalu - Csorna bypass (33 km)
road 8: Márkó - Herend (5,5 km)
road 8: Pétfürdő - Hajmáskér (6,5 km)
Σ: 88,5 km

Σ: 169 km
Anyone could put those streches on a map? To many small towns to get an idea of whole net (opened + u/c + tendered).
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Old June 18th, 2013, 03:51 PM   #5917
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2. M-15 (note the overpasses prepared to 2x2 extension)
Scheduled widening of M15 is between 2017-2019.
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Old June 18th, 2013, 06:23 PM   #5918
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Scheduled widening of M15 is between 2017-2019.
I totally understand Hungarian highway policy. Two lane road is still adequate for such traffic frequency and thus the section doesn't have higher priority.
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Old June 18th, 2013, 07:15 PM   #5919
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Here are my photos from 2005 (note the border crossings were in operation at that time)
That's interesting - am I understanding that there was an Hungarian exit check as well as a Slovakian entry check at that point?

I'm also confused if so - because Hungary has abandoned exit checks with RO, right?
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Old June 18th, 2013, 07:58 PM   #5920
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That's interesting - am I understanding that there was an Hungarian exit check as well as a Slovakian entry check at that point?

I'm also confused if so - because Hungary has abandoned exit checks with RO, right?
Well, I've travelled many countries in Europe in pre-Schengen era and find it really usual to have one exit and one entry check (except one experience in Bulgaria in year 2005 when they have three entry checks ). Moreover, in the very last years of border crossing between Hungary and Slovakia being operated, I randomly experienced one common check.

Regarding the border crossing H-RO. According to wikipedia, Romania and Bulgaria are coutries "legally bound to join Schengen area", so they may operates in some special mod or something.
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