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Old November 26th, 2013, 09:49 PM   #6121
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That was fast, under 1.5 years. March 2012 imagery on Google Earth shows a two-lane road with no sign of construction.
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Old November 27th, 2013, 03:33 AM   #6122
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Since we're talking about fő-ut 86, is there any long-term plans to extend M86 all the way to Rédics border crossing as 2x2 profile??
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Old November 27th, 2013, 04:01 AM   #6123
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same would be interesting to know for the section between Csorna and M15...
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Old November 27th, 2013, 02:08 PM   #6124
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It seems upgrading of M15 into a full-profile motorway may start in 2015...

http://www.kisalfold.hu/mosonmagyaro...outat/2359430/
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Old November 27th, 2013, 05:24 PM   #6125
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It seems upgrading of M15 into a full-profile motorway may start in 2015...

http://www.kisalfold.hu/mosonmagyaro...outat/2359430/
Just curious, it was opened together with Slovakian D2 in 1998 or another time?
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Old November 27th, 2013, 05:42 PM   #6126
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Yes, it was built at the same time. The border crossing opened in December 1997, the mainline route was completed to M1 at 23-06-1998.
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Old November 28th, 2013, 10:29 AM   #6127
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I don't know the reason, but the M is there, but covered on the signs:
http://forum.index.hu/Article/viewAr...9684&t=9013571
http://forum.index.hu/Article/viewAr...3149&t=9013571
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Old November 28th, 2013, 11:58 AM   #6128
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That was fast, under 1.5 years. March 2012 imagery on Google Earth shows a two-lane road with no sign of construction.
Give me a break man. It is 4 kms of 2 lanes on flat terrain. It is blatant propaganda of a populist government before the elections.
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Old November 28th, 2013, 12:18 PM   #6129
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The A5+H7 combination (Tornyiszentmiklós-Rédics) is actually free for trucks (but not for cars), but why would you drive there? Isn't it faster through Lovászi? But yes, it could be free, because no one will buy a vignette for that short stretch.
Maybe it is faster via Lovászi, but I have never tried it. This freeway combo is the "fast track" here, (and we always stop in Lendva for an ice-cream).
I might exaggerate the importance of it, but that may be because I see this Slovenian corner of A5-H7 as an east-west connection in the Hungarian network - that is outside the Budapest agglo - which is so badly missed otherwiswe. Had we built M8 or M9 already the importance of this little link would certainly look lesser. So it reflects a different philosophy - thanks to Slovenia.
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Old December 8th, 2013, 09:09 PM   #6130
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I might exaggerate the importance of it, but that may be because I see this Slovenian corner of A5-H7 as an east-west connection in the Hungarian network - that is outside the Budapest agglo - which is so badly missed otherwiswe. Had we built M8 or M9 already the importance of this little link would certainly look lesser. So it reflects a different philosophy - thanks to Slovenia.
M8/M9 may be useful to access South Germany via Graz from Balkan countries, avoiding heavy traffic near Budapest and Vienna
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Old December 8th, 2013, 09:22 PM   #6131
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Old December 8th, 2013, 09:34 PM   #6132
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Last week on Saturday I drove from Romania to Szeged (H). Main road 43 between the border and Mako was closed for the east->west direction because of some roadworks and a ~5 km long queue of trucks waiting at the border to enter Romania. The east->west traffic was diverted on this route, so it was quite close to the construction site of M43 motorway between Mako and the Romanian border. I managed to take some pictures from the distance with my phone. They're not best quality, but you can see that they were working:



















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Old December 9th, 2013, 02:39 AM   #6133
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How is Romania planing to continue Hungarian M43? Is there new border checkpoint planned or will Hungary build a short connector near Nagylak?
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Old December 9th, 2013, 10:20 AM   #6134
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There will be a motorway exit in Hungary near the village of Nagylak (close to the Romanian border).

The motorway on the Romanian side was u/c, but the contract was canceled because the company that built it misused the funds. A new tender was made, winner announced, but now another company made an appeal and now the file is in court so the judges will decide.

There will be a direct connection on the motorway between Romania and Hungary, but I am not sure yet how the border check will be done.
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Old December 9th, 2013, 12:07 PM   #6135
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There will be a direct connection on the motorway between Romania and Hungary, but I am not sure yet how the border check will be done.
It will be a large rest area just few hundred meters after you cross the Hungarian border into Romania, so most probably they will improvize a border check point there. Or we could finally join Schengen area.
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Old December 9th, 2013, 12:13 PM   #6136
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There will be a motorway exit in Hungary near the village of Nagylak (close to the Romanian border).

The motorway on the Romanian side was u/c, but the contract was canceled because the company that built it misused the funds. A new tender was made, winner announced, but now another company made an appeal and now the file is in court so the judges will decide.

There will be a direct connection on the motorway between Romania and Hungary, but I am not sure yet how the border check will be done.
It is necessary to build a border crossing? How are the plans of Romania to join Schengen?
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Old December 9th, 2013, 12:17 PM   #6137
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It is necessary to build a border crossing?
Maybe they don't have to build a new border crossing, but just install a temporary one in the parking lot on the Romanian side.

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How are the plans of Romania to join Schengen?
Romania technically accomplished all requirements for joining Schengen. All the external-EU borders are well defended. The problem now is political, because western EU politicians like to tell their voters that they don't allow us into Schengen because of mass emigration of Romanian thieves and criminals into western EU. The truth is that the border check between Romania and Hungary is just a joke... they just look at your passport and wish you a nice trip, so all the bad guys that wanted to leave Romania did it so far.
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Old December 9th, 2013, 12:38 PM   #6138
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Those bad guys found ways to cross the border even 10 or 20 years ago, when visas were required...
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Old December 9th, 2013, 12:40 PM   #6139
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Maybe they don't have to build a new border crossing, but just install a temporary one in the parking lot on the Romanian side.



Romania technically accomplished all requirements for joining Schengen. All the external-EU borders are well defended. The problem now is political, because western EU politicians like to tell their voters that they don't allow us into Schengen because of mass emigration of Romanian thieves and criminals into western EU. The truth is that the border check between Romania and Hungary is just a joke... they just look at your passport and wish you a nice trip, so all the bad guys that wanted to leave Romania did it so far.
Same as Slovak-Hungarian borders in 2004-2009

The policemen were like "don't even bother to want me to look on your passport and just leave me alone as quick as it is possible"
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Old December 9th, 2013, 12:42 PM   #6140
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The policemen were like "don't even bother to want me to look on your passport and just leave me alone as quick as it is possible"
Yes, something like that is now at the RO-H border.

Last time when I crossed the border, last weekend, we were 4 people in the car, so I handed him 4 ID cards. After we left I told to my friends in the car that we could have been 5 people in the car because he didn't bother counting...
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