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Old March 1st, 2014, 10:55 PM   #6261
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i mean something like this

http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Fi...d_Ratingen.jpg

or this

http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Fi....de_-_2184.jpg

you dont see such things in Hungary.
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Old March 1st, 2014, 11:43 PM   #6262
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you also don't get that much rain in the Puszta as in Germany
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Old March 1st, 2014, 11:49 PM   #6263
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true. but somehow i still have the suspicion that its a little bit more about taking care of the trees than rain.
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Old March 10th, 2014, 11:00 PM   #6264
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Some pictures from M70 (mostly) half-profile motorway in south-western part of Hungary.

Crossing the Schengen border into Hungary:







For most of it's length M70 is half-profile:



After some ugly accidents happened overtaking was forbidden on this road section:





Just before entering M7 motorway:



Just after this bridge the speed limita was 80 km/h. There was a police speed trap after the corner.

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Old March 10th, 2014, 11:54 PM   #6265
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I can't help myself, but I love Hungarian traffic signs. So simple, clear, legible and nice designed.
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Old March 11th, 2014, 03:05 PM   #6266
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I can't help myself, but I love Hungarian traffic signs. So simple, clear, legible and nice designed.





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Old March 11th, 2014, 05:31 PM   #6267
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Some pictures from M70 (mostly) half-profile motorway in south-western part of Hungary.
Is there need for full-profile motorway? Traffic here doesn`t look to be heavy.
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Old March 11th, 2014, 07:42 PM   #6268
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Are those signs painted or contain stickers?
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Old March 11th, 2014, 08:53 PM   #6269
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Is there need for full-profile motorway? Traffic here doesn`t look to be heavy.
Traffic is quite large for a standard road, but still quite small for a motorway. Unfortunately some nasty accidents happened few years ago on this route so now overtaking here is forbidden (not such a bug problem since it's only 20 km long and it has 2 lanes per direction at both ends and near a exit in the middle... so maybe just 10/20 km is half-profile). But still, it would be nice to be full-profile because it's the main connection route for part of Eastern Europe to Italy.
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Old March 11th, 2014, 09:02 PM   #6270
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I agree, it should have four lanes just for its function as a major transportation corridor and a link between long-distance motorways. You don't want two-lane stretches everywhere when you drive long-distance routes.
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Old March 11th, 2014, 09:26 PM   #6271
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I agree, it should have four lanes just for its function as a major transportation corridor and a link between long-distance motorways. You don't want two-lane stretches everywhere when you drive long-distance routes.

...same oppinion for M15
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Old March 11th, 2014, 09:31 PM   #6272
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and M2.

we are not good in widening roads. luckily, its not that much which has to widened.
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Old March 12th, 2014, 03:20 AM   #6273
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I agree, it should have four lanes just for its function as a major transportation corridor and a link between long-distance motorways. You don't want two-lane stretches everywhere when you drive long-distance routes.
True, however if traffic is low(ish) say around up to 10-12,000 AADT and if overtaking is prohibited you can get most of the benefits of a 2+2 motorway if the 1+1 no overtaking sections are no longer than 10-15km at a stretch but have motorway minimum speeds/restrictions and grade separated access.

The fact that there is already a road makes it very easy to deal with standard EU Eco nonsense studies when the time comes to widen them...as distinct from building even a 1+1 offline on a greenfield route. And EU funds are pretty readily available on major intercity and intercountry routes unless a full 130kph motorway is proposed on a low traffic route.

After all a bat can cross 4 lanes as easily as 2

Having 1+1 sections on a lot of roads never prevented Croatia or Slovenia or Hungary from classifying them as M roads either although 1+1 sections tend to be mountain tunnels in Croatia and Slovenia .....and for 10 months out of 12 they get away with it.

It does get a bit messy in July and August though when them pesky northern europeans clog up these 'small motorways'.
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Old March 12th, 2014, 04:28 AM   #6274
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The main problem of the M70 are too many trucks (and Romanians ).
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Old March 12th, 2014, 05:12 AM   #6275
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Having 1+1 sections on a lot of roads never prevented Croatia or Slovenia or Hungary from classifying them as M roads either although 1+1 sections tend to be mountain tunnels in Croatia and Slovenia .....and for 10 months out of 12 they get away with it.
Same goes for Austria!
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Old March 12th, 2014, 08:03 AM   #6276
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in Austria only A9 has 2x1 sections left (3 tunnels), and the Karawankentunnel on A11, all other A-roads are at least 2x2. S-roads are a different story. However, I never really understood why f.e. S6 is not an A-road...
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Old March 12th, 2014, 04:17 PM   #6277
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Are those signs painted or contain stickers?
It is not painted.
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Old March 14th, 2014, 01:41 AM   #6278
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True, however if traffic is low(ish) say around up to 10-12,000 AADT and if overtaking is prohibited you can get most of the benefits of a 2+2 motorway if the 1+1 no overtaking sections are no longer than 10-15km at a stretch but have motorway minimum speeds/restrictions and grade separated access.

The fact that there is already a road makes it very easy to deal with standard EU Eco nonsense studies when the time comes to widen them...as distinct from building even a 1+1 offline on a greenfield route. And EU funds are pretty readily available on major intercity and intercountry routes unless a full 130kph motorway is proposed on a low traffic route.

After all a bat can cross 4 lanes as easily as 2

Having 1+1 sections on a lot of roads never prevented Croatia or Slovenia or Hungary from classifying them as M roads either although 1+1 sections tend to be mountain tunnels in Croatia and Slovenia .....and for 10 months out of 12 they get away with it.

It does get a bit messy in July and August though when them pesky northern europeans clog up these 'small motorways'.
Love everything about this post. BTW Switzerland also has plenty of 1+1 sections and not only in the mountain pass sections, Hungary could learn some from Switzerland, issue only a 1 year vignette at around 30-40€, then when people complain raise it to 60-70€ and issue a 15 day vignette for around 20-25€, or one for 30 days for 30€! As a foreigner I find these tolls to be very reasonable.
If these prices are too high for the average Hungarian you can always come up with programs so they don't have to pay as much.
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Old March 14th, 2014, 02:12 AM   #6279
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This road is simmular to M15 which is also in Hungary.
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Old March 15th, 2014, 03:28 PM   #6280
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This sign stands here now:
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