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Old March 16th, 2014, 02:31 AM   #6281
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What sections of a motorways are building in Hungary right know?
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Old March 16th, 2014, 09:14 AM   #6282
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Old March 16th, 2014, 12:04 PM   #6283
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Old March 17th, 2014, 01:18 PM   #6284
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I don't know if this info was posted here yet, but according to the initiative of Romania at the scheduled 13 Feb 2014 meeting of the joint-motorway working group, the M43-A1 border crossing infrastucutre will be built on the Romanian side, with Romanian funding.
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Old March 20th, 2014, 11:32 AM   #6285
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Let me give you a heads-up regarding the Hungarian motorway/expressway plans and schedule towards Romania:

M4 Berettyóújfalu - Nagykereki/Ro border

full profile 2x2 motorway, 32 km

Status: The preparation phase is completed, a final construction permit is available. Over 90% of the required land has been already purchased, archaeological works are in progress. Tender to be launched this year, construction scheduled to start: Spring 2015.

Scheduled completion deadline: 2017

Romanian connection: Works on the connecting A3 Motorway were temporarily suspended.

M44 Kecskemét - Gyula/Ro border

2x2 expressway, 141 km

Phase II. - Kecskemét - Tiszakürt (40 km)

Status: 2016-2019

Phase I. - Tiszakürt - Kondoros (62 km)

Status: Tender to be launched this month.

Possible construction start: Sept 2014

Scheduled completion: Summer of 2017

Phase III. - Kondoros - Békéscsaba (20 km)

Status: 2017-2020

Phase IV. - Békéscsaba - Gyula/Ro border (19 km)

Scheduled construction: 2017-2020

Romanian connection: No expressway connection is planned on the Romanian side. M44 will connect to the existing 79A main road.

M49 M3 (Vája) - Csenger/Ro border

2x2 expressway, 48 km

Phase I. - M3 Vaja - Kocsord (Main road 491.) (18 km)

Scheduled construction: 2016-2017

Phase II. Kocsord - Csenger/Ro border (30 km)

Scheduled construction: 2020-2022

Status: The feasibility study for the entire M49 is available. Regarding the issue of the border intersection point no agreement was reached between the Hungarian and the Romanian side, not even the reconciliation process has started yet.

Romanian connection: M49 will connect to the Satu Mare (Satu Mare) western bypass road at a not yet fixed location. The previously planned Satu Mare - Baia Mare expressway is not included in the current Romanian development plans.

M43 Makó - Csanádpalota/Ro border

full profile 2x2 motorway, 23,125 km

Scheduled completion: Spring 2015(!!!)

Maps to be included this evening, if Aladar wont be faster...
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Old March 20th, 2014, 04:38 PM   #6286
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M43 opening in Spring 2015? Wasn't it September 2014?
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Old March 20th, 2014, 06:19 PM   #6287
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M43 opening in Spring 2015? Wasn't it September 2014?
Yupp... IMO there will be a joint M43-A1 inauguration... Just a guess though...
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Old March 20th, 2014, 06:30 PM   #6288
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M43 Makó - Csanádpalota/Ro border
Scheduled completion: Spring 2015(!!!)
Source? What's the reason for the delay?
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Old March 20th, 2014, 06:36 PM   #6289
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Source? What's the reason for the delay?
A1?
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Old March 20th, 2014, 06:46 PM   #6290
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The A1 should be no problem if the Nagylak bypass will be built (as you have announced: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpo...postcount=6222).
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The A1 should be no problem if the Nagylak bypass will be built (as you have announced: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpo...postcount=6222).
No funding for the bypass yet...
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Old March 20th, 2014, 10:42 PM   #6293
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What is the difference between Motorway and Expressway in Hungary Qtya, eg speed limits, cross section, hard shoulder width and median width etc????

Has any expressway been completed...in addition to the substantial motorway ( and half profile motorway in places) network. ???
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Old March 20th, 2014, 10:44 PM   #6294
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M4 Berettyóújfalu - Nagykereki/Ro border

Tender to be launched this year, construction scheduled to start: Spring 2015.
And what about M35 Debrecen -Berettyóújfalu? Sooner, or later than M4?
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Old March 21st, 2014, 12:54 PM   #6295
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Here are few pictures that I shot this week with the construction site of M43 motorway between Mako and the Romanian border:





Hungarian style of building motorways: first they do the embankments, and only after that the concrete piers of the overpasses:







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At the current motorway exit just north of Mako:



Here will be a motorway overpass over a local road and a railway:



Entering the motorway to Szeged:



Mako exit seen while returning from Szeged:



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What is the difference between Motorway and Expressway in Hungary Qtya, eg speed limits, cross section, hard shoulder width and median width etc????
Allowed (~design) speed:
- Motorway: 130 km/h
- Expressway: 110 km/h

Lane width:
- Motorway: 3,75 m
- Expressway: 3,50 m

Emergency lane:
- Motorway: 3,00 m asphalt (or concrete) pavement
- Expressway: 3,00 m gravel

Median width:
- Motorway: 5,00 m
- Expressway: 3,60 m

Minimal radius of curves (depends on speed):
- Motorway: 900 m
- Expressway: 600 m

Interchanges:
- Motorway: grade separated
- Expressway: grade separated

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Has any expressway been completed...in addition to the substantial motorway ( and half profile motorway in places) network. ???
M85 Enese bypass
M86 Vát-Szeleste
4 (M4) Vecsés-Üllő, Albertirsa
354 (M40) 35-M35
8 (M8, M80) Csór bypass, Márkó bypass
M2 Fót-M0
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Allowed (~design) speed:
- Motorway: 130 km/h
- Expressway: 110 km/h
Lane width:
- Motorway: 3,75 m
- Expressway: 3,50 m
Emergency lane:
- Motorway: 3,00 m asphalt (or concrete) pavement
- Expressway: 3,00 m gravel
Median width:
- Motorway: 5,00 m
- Expressway: 3,60 m
Minimal radius of curves (depends on speed):
- Motorway: 900 m
- Expressway: 600 m
Interchanges:
- Motorway: grade separated
- Expressway: grade separated

Looks like an excellent standard for a 110kph 2+2 road. It seems more like a "sub base" hard shoulder than a gravel one to me. At 110kph not a danger.

http://goo.gl/maps/l8ooS

(The sub base is fine gravel and concrete mixed ( sometimes called CBM or subcbm) )
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Looks like an excellent standard for a 110kph 2+2 road. It seems more like a "sub base" hard shoulder than a gravel one to me. At 110kph not a danger.
i disagree. its no fun stopping/accelerating on that gravel. and in big traffic -like we have on M2- its pretty dangerous.
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That's why you should build motorways where traffic is high and expressways on secondary routes, where traffic is lower.
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