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Old June 10th, 2014, 11:28 AM   #6381
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Does anyone know what the story is here?

https://www.google.com/maps/@47.8440...Pz5h1U4QFA!2e0

These look like old tollbooths, but what are they doing there? Did Hungary use barrier tolls before they implemented vignettes, or was this a form of tolling system similar to what Slovenia uses for trucks?
Motorway M1 had toll stations between Győr and Hegyeshalom (Austrian border) in the 90's. This section was built as a private motorway. The tolls were incredibly high and approximately 90% of traffic (heavy freight included) avoided that section and used the parallel running national road instead. The toll was for cars 900 forint in 1997, which is at current value approx. 8 euro for 50km which is crazy.
I can remember, it was absolute crazy to see that almost every cars and trucks left the motorway at the last exit before the tolled section.
But because of the low usage of the road, the incomes were much lower than expected and the motorway company became bankrupt in three years (1999). Then the state took over that section, lowered the tolls immediately and later on that section, too, became a part of the nation wide sticker system.
Most of the toll stations of M1 were removed. This one wich is visible in your link was changed to a sticker sell station. If you come from Austria or Slovakia you may buy your sticker* at that station so the motorways M1 (A border - that station) and M15 (SK border - that station) are eventually free to use.

* Since the introducing of E-Sticker you get no sticker at all but your car will be registered in an electronic database, but you can do it at that station as well.
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Old June 10th, 2014, 02:55 PM   #6382
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According not only to that map:
http://www.tolltickets.com/style/pic...t_large_hu.gif
only entrance from Slovakia is "free" while short section from Austria to junction with M15 is tolled.
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Old June 10th, 2014, 03:02 PM   #6383
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According not only to that map:
http://www.tolltickets.com/style/pic...t_large_hu.gif
only entrance from Slovakia is "free" while short section from Austria to junction with M15 is tolled.
This is pretty stupid
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Old June 10th, 2014, 03:09 PM   #6384
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Construction update

New intersection of M30 - road 3 near Miskolc:


M85-M86 common section near Csorna:
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Old June 10th, 2014, 03:17 PM   #6385
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This is pretty stupid
It is stupid especially in regard to drive through tool booth linked earlier. But I assume that this is to "punish" Austria for its restrictive sticker policy. Similar but maybe even more stupid situation is in Bratislava where cars entering from A must pay for approx. 1 km of D4 while from D2 interchange they can go to Bratislava without sticker - details in this map:
https://ismcs.cdb.sk/portal/mapviewe...910000,5530000
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Old June 10th, 2014, 05:05 PM   #6386
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It is stupid especially in regard to drive through tool booth linked earlier. But I assume that this is to "punish" Austria for its restrictive sticker policy. Similar but maybe even more stupid situation is in Bratislava where cars entering from A must pay for approx. 1 km of D4 while from D2 interchange they can go to Bratislava without sticker - details in this map:
https://ismcs.cdb.sk/portal/mapviewe...910000,5530000
Yeah, that is stupid as well. The mentioned D4 section is indeed short, short like you can barely reach the speed limit after leaving the border crossing area.
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Old June 10th, 2014, 09:21 PM   #6387
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M85-M86 common section near Csorna:
https://scontent-b-fra.xx.fbcdn.net/...64434525_n.png
where exactly this is and is Csorna going to get bypass soon?
i drove through the city 3 weeks ago, it was masacre. cars, lorries, tractors, pedestrians, bikes, all of them are trying to find their way on confusing bad 4 lane road through the city centre, traffic lights, roundabouts, horrible. poor people living there.
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Old June 10th, 2014, 09:38 PM   #6388
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That picture was taken south-east of Csorna. The bypass should be ready by June 2015, the whole project -with M85 and M86 all the way to Szombathely- until mid 2016.
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Old June 10th, 2014, 09:45 PM   #6389
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i saw significant progress of constructing M86 from Szombathely to existing Vát bypass. and this thing just south of Csorna (probably future exit Csorna south).

so you have exact location of M85/M86 intersection and what sections are currently under construction?
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Old June 10th, 2014, 09:54 PM   #6390
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All sections are u/c between Györ and Szombathely. M85 Enese bypass is already finished, so is M86 Vát-Szeleste, and M86 Szombathely-Vát should be inaugurated end of this month. As I said, the whole thing should be operational in 2016.
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Old June 19th, 2014, 11:38 PM   #6391
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AFAIK Hungary had one private motorway (M5), but I am not sure if it had toll booths.

This seems to be ordinary "drive-in" matrica-vignette sales point. The images are from 2011 when e-toll for truck was not introduced yet.
M1 Győr (road 85) - Hegyeshalom (A border) section was the first hungarian private motorway (opened in 1996). It had 1 tollgate on the main motorway (on the photo) and 3 tollgates in interchanges.

M5 motorway had also toll-gates, near Újhartyán and near Kiskunfélegyháza, and also in interchanges.

So yes, you can see the old tollgate at that place.
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Old June 21st, 2014, 05:28 PM   #6392
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There was a time when hungarian M5 was the most expensive motorway in Europe!!!
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Old June 22nd, 2014, 12:32 PM   #6393
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Works seem to be advancing pretty good at the Mako exit on M43. They are currently working at the last layer before asphalt on the main motorway, and at the concrete deck of the overpass.
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Old June 24th, 2014, 10:58 AM   #6394
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Works seem to be advancing pretty good at the Mako exit on M43. They are currently working at the last layer before asphalt on the main motorway, and at the concrete deck of the overpass.
Thx for the riport!

M86 between Vát and Szombathely nearing completion:

http://szombathelyi7.hu/galeria/3661...zotti-szakasza
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Old June 27th, 2014, 08:08 PM   #6395
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Old June 30th, 2014, 01:38 PM   #6397
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hi guys,

are those completed M86 sections free of charge or included in toll/vignette network already?
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free of charge until completing the missing sections.
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Old June 30th, 2014, 07:58 PM   #6399
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Also for trucks? (HU-GO)
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Old July 1st, 2014, 09:33 AM   #6400
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How does the situation on expanding of M15 look like?
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