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Old July 29th, 2014, 10:38 AM   #6481
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Are there any official plans to build section Miskolc-Tornyosnémeti as motorway/expressway?
A few days ago I saw recently built exspressway R4 in Slovakia, also plans to build section Lublin-Rzeszów in Poland as expressway turned to be truth.

The reason I'm asking is the fact of popularity of the route via DK19(S19)/E371/D1/R4/3 during trips from eastern Poland to Croatia/Montenegro/Greece and the above mentioned section is one of bottlenecks on this route.

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That section is planned for completion after 2020.
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AFAIK it will be built in the present budgetary cycle.
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In order to speed up the whole damn slow process the regulatory environment of the road constructions is under revision as we speak. The first reading (by the Government) of the complex legislative proposal is scheduled some time this fall. If adopted it will significantly accelerate the transport infrastructure developments in the 2014-2020 period. But I would still say not earlier than 2020, hoping for the best though.
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Old July 30th, 2014, 05:25 PM   #6482
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It's empty also because on the south end (HR and BIH) there's nothing which could attract more (if any) traffic. Croatian A5 (E73) is ~70% completed (from Osijek to A3) and has the lowest traffic volume of all motorways 2500-3000 vpd Croatians don't use it so much because of high tolls, route from Zagreb to Osijek is slightly shorter and absolutely without toll through D28 (A12) and D2 state road (via Bjelovar), route E73 doesn't go through Slavonski Brod (which is more or less industrial city), Osijek-Sl.Brod route is detoured as Budapest-Pecs and the economic situation in BIH is difficult, not to say something worse. So it's not that strange that M6 has so low traffic volume.

Hungarian M6 and Croatian A5 motorways won't have much bigger traffic, at least in next 20 years.
This year Croatian and BiH complete A5 section Osijek-Beli Manastir (almost H/HR border) and A5 to BiH (Svilaj-Odžak) (A1). Another sections (46km) of A1 in BiH will be completed too. Than it will be shorter, alternative route to Jadran sea (Ploče) for a lot of people (H, SK, CZ, PL). Still will be missing M6 Boly-H/HR border and another 240km motorway between Budapest and Jadran sea. But BiH is building another section A1.
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Old July 30th, 2014, 05:54 PM   #6483
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Who cares about the "Jadran sea", except in summer?
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Old July 30th, 2014, 06:19 PM   #6484
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This year Croatian and BiH complete A5 section Osijek-Beli Manastir (almost H/HR border) and A5 to BiH (Svilaj-Odžak) (A1). Another sections (46km) of A1 in BiH will be completed too. Than it will be shorter, alternative route to Jadran sea (Ploče) for a lot of people (H, SK, CZ, PL). Still will be missing M6 Boly-H/HR border and another 240km motorway between Budapest and Jadran sea. But BiH is building another section A1.
Absolutely not shorter for anyone from CZ and most of PL...
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Old July 31st, 2014, 11:50 AM   #6485
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Absolutely not shorter for anyone from CZ and most of PL...
Route to Dubrovnik for people from Ostrava:

https://www.google.cz/maps/dir/Ostra...6606!3e0?hl=cs

and will be more shorter (another 30km) after finish of A5/A1 Svilaj-Odžak and tunel Vijenac (Zenica)
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Old July 31st, 2014, 03:07 PM   #6486
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do you have any clue or someone else when the M6 Boly-Ivadarda will be finished?
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Old July 31st, 2014, 04:38 PM   #6487
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do you have any clue or someone else when the M6 Boly-Ivadarda will be finished?
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Old July 31st, 2014, 07:12 PM   #6488
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Route to Dubrovnik for people from Ostrava:
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That is a horrendous route across Bosnian mountains. The QUICK way from Ostrava is via Budapest and then Zagreb. It will be 10 years before most of that Bosnian route is motorway. It takes many many hours to drive across Bosnia north to south.
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Old July 31st, 2014, 07:15 PM   #6489
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Route to Dubrovnik for people from Ostrava:

https://www.google.cz/maps/dir/Ostra...6606!3e0?hl=cs

and will be more shorter (another 30km) after finish of A5/A1 Svilaj-Odžak and tunel Vijenac (Zenica)
slightly shorter, but 2 hours longer. And without shortcut on second class road in Slovakia it has the same length as route through Wien
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Old July 31st, 2014, 07:48 PM   #6490
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Sure, if thats so very nice and the croats finish there part then also Baranyavar-Osijek? thanks!
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Old July 31st, 2014, 08:47 PM   #6491
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Route to Dubrovnik for people from Ostrava:

https://www.google.cz/maps/dir/Ostra...6606!3e0?hl=cs

and will be more shorter (another 30km) after finish of A5/A1 Svilaj-Odžak and tunel Vijenac (Zenica)
Hope you're just joking man There will never be better route than D1-R52-A2-etc.
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Old July 31st, 2014, 09:31 PM   #6492
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do you have any clue or someone else when the M6 Boly-Ivadarda will be finished?
They still haven't been started with the construction.
But that section is not very difficult to build so it should be opened soon.
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Old August 1st, 2014, 10:15 AM   #6493
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slightly shorter, but 2 hours longer. And without shortcut on second class road in Slovakia it has the same length as route through Wien
Of course it need some time, now is better throught Wien, but route M6/A5/A1 will be better soon.

Osijek - Beli Manastir 24,5 km
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showth...885992&page=73

Tunel 1.mart - Zenica-Bilješevo (will be shorter more than 6km than E73)
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showth...57774&page=303

another section in Bih:

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Old August 1st, 2014, 10:16 AM   #6494
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A1: Josanica – Butila 12 5.7km (October 2007 to 26th June 2014) – project – map
A1: Butila – Vlakovo 12 3.9km (July 2013 to 26th June 2014) – project – map
A1: Drivusa – Biljesevo 12 6.5km (August 2010 to June 2014) – project – map
A1: Zvirovici – Zvirici 12 9.1km (October 2010 to June 2014) – project – map
A1: Vlakovo – Lepenica 12 10.2km (January 2013 to August 2014) – project – map
A1: Lepenica – Tarcin 12 10.1km (June 2012 to October 2014) – project – map
A1: Svilaj – Odzak 12 11.0km (November 2013 to November 2014) – project – map
?: Butila (A1) – Brijesce 12 3.5km (October 2010 to December 2014) – project – map

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Old August 1st, 2014, 10:25 AM   #6495
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Route to Dubrovnik for people from Ostrava:

https://www.google.cz/maps/dir/Ostra...6606!3e0?hl=cs

and will be more shorter (another 30km) after finish of A5/A1 Svilaj-Odžak and tunel Vijenac (Zenica)
Eventually, there will be a more direct route between Zilina and Budapest. However, it is not an immediate priority for either Slovakia or the EU.
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Old August 1st, 2014, 10:51 AM   #6496
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Eventually, there will be a more direct route between Zilina and Budapest. However, it is not an immediate priority for either Slovakia or the EU.
Currently, there are primary or secondary roads and it is much faster through D1 - D2 and continue through M15 in Hungary to M1.
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Old August 1st, 2014, 10:53 AM   #6497
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Eventually, there will be a more direct route between Zilina and Budapest. However, it is not an immediate priority for either Slovakia or the EU.
Something small sections are building now or is complete:
Zilina-Martin D1 (Tunel Višňové + Dubná Skala-Turany), R1-Ziar nad Hronom-Zvolen, but more R3 will be build after 2017-2020
http://ndsas.sk/stavby-v-priprave/44364s

How is M2 between Vác and Hont/Šahy (SK) ?
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Old August 1st, 2014, 11:09 AM   #6498
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Currently, there are primary or secondary roads and it is much faster through D1 - D2 and continue through M15 in Hungary to M1.
I have a lot of experience, that actually shortcut (D1/R1/573/75/64/13/M1) is faster -there is wide route, low traffic (85km). And whole D1 and D2 thought Bratislava has restricted speed 80kmph, than is only half profile M15 and this route is 62 km longer.
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Old August 1st, 2014, 11:27 AM   #6499
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I have a lot of experience, that actually shortcut (D1/R1/573/75/64/13/M1) is faster -there is wide route, low traffic (85km). And whole D1 and D2 thought Bratislava has restricted speed 80kmph, than is only half profile M15 and this route is 62 km longer.
You are right. I thought you meant the road through Martin and Žiar nad Hronom. The road is in very very bad condition there. A segmented surface in very bad condition.
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I very often go to Sarajevo like that: PL-Bohumin(D1)-Ostrava (D1-I/56)-(R56)Fridek-Mistek-Makov/Bumbalka (CZ/SK)-Bytća (D1)-D1/R1 direction Nitra-Śoporna (II/573)-Śala-Komarno (SK/HU)- Road no 13/M1-Budapest (M0)-M6-Road no 57-Mohacs-Udvar (HU/HR)-Beli Manastir-Osijek (A5)-A5/A3-Slavonski Brod (HR/BiH)-Derventa-Doboj- Zenica-A1-Sarajevo
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