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Old January 23rd, 2015, 08:40 PM   #6741
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Our government has almost no support in the region the A4 (41,2 km, flat land) is built, so it will take 5,5 years to complete it (if nothing changes). They are quick in building new motorways, but only in areas where their supporters live
Government works that way in every country: republics, democracies, and dictatorships. However, in this case, it seems the problem was due more to the contractors than any policies or preferences of the government.
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Old January 23rd, 2015, 10:20 PM   #6742
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I agree, but the A4, which is one of the busiest roads in east Europe, should at least have priority. We ended up building less important roads before most important corridors.
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Old January 25th, 2015, 03:25 AM   #6743
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It seems like they hit a patch of bumpy road and lost control. I can't believe they didn't take a run at about 200 to 250 km/h first to check the road condition. Stupid!
The case happend on M7 motorway which is not bumpy for sure.
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Old January 25th, 2015, 10:06 AM   #6744
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The case happend on M7 motorway which is not bumpy for sure.
Not bumpy at what speed? Smooth at 200 km/h can be bumpy at 320 km/h.
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Old January 25th, 2015, 11:46 AM   #6745
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Smooth or not, I hope the way this idiot gets his ass transported for the rest of his life will look like this:



May he be forced to spend the rest of his life watching train and bus departure times. No mercy for potential killers.
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Old January 25th, 2015, 11:53 AM   #6746
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Well, I don't think motorways in any country are built for speeds like 336 km/h.
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Old January 25th, 2015, 12:39 PM   #6747
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...question ???

...M5, from the Roszke border crossing to the first turn to (regular) road 5 to Szeged is 800 meters ( OMV gas station is there )...people told me that i must by vignette for this 800m on M5...is it true ?
In theory, yes. But it was told to me three times at Roszke by Hungarian border guards that any vignette control would take place after the OMV station because there's no possibility to buy a vignette using a credit card before that point. It's the same at the main A/H crossing at Nickelsdorf - you might need a vignette between the border and the first exit, but in reality, the control would take place after the exit. Look on the map posted - you can see that the vignette-control cameras are all away from the border.
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Old January 25th, 2015, 07:28 PM   #6748
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In theory, yes. But it was told to me three times at Roszke by Hungarian border guards that any vignette control would take place after the OMV station because there's no possibility to buy a vignette using a credit card before that point. It's the same at the main A/H crossing at Nickelsdorf - you might need a vignette between the border and the first exit, but in reality, the control would take place after the exit. Look on the map posted - you can see that the vignette-control cameras are all away from the border.

...thanks...I'm buying monthly vignettes, and last week I bought ( 1 year ) Megye vignette ( once, I had a situation where the police officers spoke English perfectly and then in the moment they forgotten...after that I'm learning Hungarian and respect traffic regulations )...
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Old January 26th, 2015, 08:27 PM   #6749
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Hi
I'd like to ask about the progress in the construction of the M43 (Mako- border) and the boundary terminal (Nagylak-Nadlac).

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M43: Mako – HU/RO border 23.1km (October 2012 to Mid 2015)
Is there a big confidence that will open in June / July? Could there be a delayed opening?
How is the progress of the construction in your opinion?

If they open before August I will take this route with pleasure.
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Old January 27th, 2015, 05:49 AM   #6750
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Regarding "M43: Mako – HU/RO border 23.1km"

This is the expected traffic for the motorway:

http://goo.gl/maps/GxC0p

I wonder whether a highway, in parallel with the existing road, is worth the money. The old road seems more than enough for the amount of traffic crossing the HU-RO border.

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Old January 27th, 2015, 12:31 PM   #6751
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You should remember, that there will be A1 motorway on the Romanian border. I think the traffic will increase on this road.
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Old January 27th, 2015, 12:48 PM   #6752
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I don't know when has Google this area photographed, but in the last years traffic increased a lot on 43 national road between the border and Mako. Everytime I've been there in the last 2-3 years I stayed stucked in huge columns of trucks.
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Old January 27th, 2015, 01:07 PM   #6753
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Old January 27th, 2015, 01:39 PM   #6754
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There's no way traffic went from this(this is more or less how I remember the road from a couple of years ago)

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Old January 27th, 2015, 02:18 PM   #6755
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I wouldnt worry about low traffic on M43. I am sure it will attract traffic for Cluj or Targu Mures as well until M4/A3 isnt completed.
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Old January 27th, 2015, 05:00 PM   #6756
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You should remember, that there will be A1 motorway on the Romanian border. I think the traffic will increase on this road.
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I wouldnt worry about low traffic on M43. I am sure it will attract traffic for Cluj or Targu Mures as well until M4/A3 isnt completed.
1) A1 traffic:
- http://goo.gl/maps/WNJ7Z (Google Street View, August 2014)
- http://goo.gl/maps/D3Mwp (sattelite picture, 2015)
Both images show an empty highway.

2) Targu Mures - Budapest, 519 km, the shortest route,
see: http://goo.gl/maps/n5mqR

Targu Mures - Mako - Budapest, 666 km,
see: http://goo.gl/maps/iCHKt

Even supposing a highway, between Targu - Mures and Budapest through Mako, will be completed by 2020, it will be 666 - 519 = 147 km longer than the best option , 519 km. Such a detour is too much.
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Old January 27th, 2015, 07:29 PM   #6757
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Ok, I admit I underestimated the distance from Budapest to T. Mures via Arad.

However, if you cut the detour via Timisoara and head directly towards Deva, you make it after 610 kimometers (Google says its 520 kms via Oradea). And if you consider the fuel costs, that slow traffic may hold you up on 2x1 parts of E60, and the relaxed way of driving you have via M43, than it might worth to take this route.
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Old January 27th, 2015, 07:35 PM   #6758
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Don't worry, probably till 2018-2020 will get two motorways route between Budapest and Targu Mures / Marosvásárhely (probably one of them won't be completed somewhere between Oradea / Nagyvárad and Cluj-Napoca / Kolozsvár). The big question is if we will be able to conected this cities with Bucharest on a motorway until 2020.
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Old January 27th, 2015, 08:33 PM   #6759
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if you cut the detour via Timisoara and head directly towards Deva, you make it after 610 kimometers (Google says its 520 kms via Oradea). And if you consider the fuel costs, that slow traffic may hold you up on 2x1 parts of E60, and the relaxed way of driving you have via M43, than it might worth to take this route.
There can be an option but after the highway Deva - Timisoara - Arad is completed I really do not think that drivers will go from Ilia directly to Arad (132 km) to save less than 37 km (Deva - Timisoara - Arad will be less than 169 km). Honestly, between driving 132 km on ordinary roads and 169 km on toll free highways I will select the longer route.

See: http://goo.gl/maps/s3pH9

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Old February 3rd, 2015, 12:44 PM   #6760
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1) A1 traffic:
- http://goo.gl/maps/WNJ7Z (Google Street View, August 2014)
- http://goo.gl/maps/D3Mwp (sattelite picture, 2015)
Both images show an empty highway.
You show images from motorway Arad-Timisoara, where the traffic is low because the main traffic going to Hungary still uses the national road Deva-Arad. When the motorway will be ready probably we will have an AADT of about 10000 vehicles/day in the border area, with a high share of trucks and some high peaks, in summer and winter holiday. There are in Hungary motorways with a lower AADT, like Szeged-Roszke or the last part of M3.
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