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Old April 25th, 2015, 12:44 AM   #6821
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Indeed, at least since the creation of "Great Budapest" in 1950, the city's geographical center is in the 10th district (Kőbánya, or Steinbruch in German), on Martinovics square - which is on the Pest side. (Wiki source).
No, I meant downtown. Is it Váci Street?
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Old April 25th, 2015, 12:55 AM   #6822
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Lets just wait until June to see the M43 open and Romania gaining motorway access to Western Europe.
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Old April 25th, 2015, 01:36 AM   #6823
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No, I meant downtown. Is it Váci Street?
Well it's not just one street but if we try to define downtown Budapest, the answer will be yes and mostly yes.
1) The southern part of District V (Pest side) is called Belváros which can be translated to City Center. That was roughly the settlement what they called Pest in the Middle Ages and the next few centuries. You can also check out this old drawing of the (then) two cities:

http://mohacsi-csata.hu/content/1583-ali-pasa-levele
2) If we look at several indicators which make a certain part of a city a "downtown", in the case of Budapest that area will go beyond the borders (the Small Boulevard) mentioned in the first paragraph. Depending on the definition we can even include a few blocks outside the Grand Boulevard on the Pest side. You can add a few blocks from the Buda side too but even then the vast majority of the area will be on the other side.
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Old April 27th, 2015, 03:31 AM   #6824
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It seems stupid to end M3 before the city of Vásárosnamény instead of bypassing it.
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Old April 27th, 2015, 09:43 AM   #6825
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Don't despair dude, M3 will bypass that city in the future.
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Old April 27th, 2015, 11:18 AM   #6826
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Lets just wait until June to see the M43 open and Romania gaining motorway access to Western Europe.
Do anyone knows exactly when they open that part of M43? That is a part of European motorway history when they open the east part of M43 and the west part of Romanian A1
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Old April 27th, 2015, 11:25 AM   #6827
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Does anyone know why Hungary have a British system of motorway numbers? Hungary have for example M1 and it look very British
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Old April 27th, 2015, 11:44 AM   #6828
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M stands for magyar, not motorway in this case
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Old April 27th, 2015, 12:25 PM   #6829
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M stands for magyar, not motorway in this case

But is not this actually an old statement from the communist era? That one claimed that M would not mean Motorway for it looked for British out, so someone came in that M would mean Magyar or Magyarország instead? But why is it only Motorways named M1 or M5 if M is not for Motorway? Not ordinary roads? So I'm sure that whoever came the M numbers got an idea from the UK, but to calm some anti-Western policies so it was argued that M would mean Magyarország.

But almost everyone who sees the M1, M5 or M43 think that M means Motorway, although most Hungarians
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Old April 27th, 2015, 01:47 PM   #6830
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In some countries M comes from Magistrala
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Old April 27th, 2015, 02:04 PM   #6831
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These are interesting theories, that's what I can say. Maybe they are true regarding us, maybe not.
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Old April 27th, 2015, 03:40 PM   #6832
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But is not this actually an old statement from the communist era? That one claimed that M would not mean Motorway for it looked for British out, so someone came in that M would mean Magyar or Magyarország instead? But why is it only Motorways named M1 or M5 if M is not for Motorway? Not ordinary roads? So I'm sure that whoever came the M numbers got an idea from the UK, but to calm some anti-Western policies so it was argued that M would mean Magyarország.

But almost everyone who sees the M1, M5 or M43 think that M means Motorway, although most Hungarians
"M" means most probably "műút", which in loose translation is artificial road.
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Old April 27th, 2015, 06:52 PM   #6833
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Do anyone knows exactly when they open that part of M43? That is a part of European motorway history when they open the east part of M43 and the west part of Romanian A1
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M43: Mako – HU/RO border 23.1km (October 2012 to 15th July 2015) – projectmap
At least this is the official date.
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Old April 28th, 2015, 01:15 AM   #6834
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At least this is the official date.
I think that the M43 is really worth it as it is going to boost the relations between Hungary and Romania and-along with the M3-these are the 2 roads that are finally going to connect the eastern part of Europe with the western one.
AFAIK 2 roads will also be the only motorways in the EU along with the A4 in Poland to do so....
What do you think?
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Old April 28th, 2015, 01:23 AM   #6835
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There are lots of roads connecting the east with the west - they are just not motorways (yet) but that doesn't mean a total lack of connections.
Don't get me wrong, M43/A1 will be a good thing and I will be among the first to celebrate it.
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Old April 28th, 2015, 05:12 AM   #6836
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There are lots of roads connecting the east with the west - they are just not motorways (yet) but that doesn't mean a total lack of connections.
Don't get me wrong, M43/A1 will be a good thing and I will be among the first to celebrate it.
You're right! But it is still symbolically important for a relationship between two countries when a motorway also opened between the countries. And for the moment Romania actually had a bit isolated roads because they lacked connection with the Continental motorways. So this will be good for Romania. However, I know that there is still a lot to finalize the A1 to reach Bucharest.

Norway is in the same situation as Romania right now. There is still missing a piece of the E6 motorway in Sweden near the Norwegian border. That part shall be opened on 6 July this year. So while Norway is going to connected to the Continental motorways very soon now

So very soon it will be possible to go from Norway to Romania in just a motorway
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Old April 28th, 2015, 05:39 AM   #6837
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Hungary today has really good motorway links with its neighbors. Soon, they also have with Romania as well, which is very good

Austria: M1
Serbia: M5
Croatia: M7
Slovakia: M15
Slovenia: M70
Romania: Not yet, but M43 opening soon
Ukraine: Not yet

So I have a question. How is the expansion of M3 to Ukraine? Delayed this because of the political situation in Ukraine? Or continues after all? For this there will probably be a long time before Ukraine builds a continuation of the motorway on its side of the border.
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How is the expansion of M3 to Ukraine?
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I would really like the M3 to be extended to the Ukrainian border.....it doesn't seem really hard to do and that border between the 2 countries will gain some additional importance.
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Old April 29th, 2015, 12:26 AM   #6840
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I think that the M43 is really worth it as it is going to boost the relations between Hungary and Romania and-along with the M3-these are the 2 roads that are finally going to connect the eastern part of Europe with the western one.
Actually, direct conection between Budapest and Central Transilvania (Cluj area) will be M4 on hungarian side along with A3 on roumanian side. M3 doesn't really do the trick for us since it's pretty devious.

Some new picture apper from the area of border crossing in this article (in roumanian):





Unofficial they say that it will be ready somewhere between 15 -30 June.
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