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Old March 29th, 2016, 09:03 PM   #7201
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Ma már a M1-M5 közötti szakasz 18-20 perc nyugodt autózás, nem 30-40 perc stressz mint régen.
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Old April 4th, 2016, 06:50 PM   #7202
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From tomorrow Tuesday 8 am on, the new network ("Véda") of intelligent traffic monitoring cameras will become fully operational. The new cameras, besides recording vehicle speeds, will be able to detect and record violations of one-way traffic, crossing a safety line, not using the seat belt or misusing a bus lane.

The system comprises a total of 160 mobile speed cameras, as well as 365 fix-installation "complex traffic-controlling points", spread throughout the country on 134 road stretches.

The camera positions are public and available on the police website in both map and table representations.



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Old April 4th, 2016, 07:07 PM   #7203
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From tomorrow Tuesday 8 am on, the new network ("Véda") of intelligent traffic monitoring cameras will become fully operational. The new cameras, besides recording vehicle speeds, will be able to detect and record violations of one-way traffic, crossing a safety line, not using the seat belt or misusing a bus lane.

The system comprises a total of 160 mobile speed cameras, as well as 365 fix-installation "complex traffic-controlling points", spread throughout the country on 134 road stretches.

The camera positions are public and available on the police website in both map and table representations.

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Is this the way they look or are there other kind as well?

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Old April 4th, 2016, 07:58 PM   #7204
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Is this the way they look or are there other kind as well?
Yes that is how they look like. Just FYI: Hungarian police can send the tickets for some EU countries especially to Romania!
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Old April 4th, 2016, 08:11 PM   #7205
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Any country can send traffic tickets to any other country the interesting part is always - how can its payment be enforced across countries, if the recipient does not pay "voluntarily"?

Since late 2010, there is an EU-wide co-operation agreement under which traffic fines surpassing EUR 70.- (including any handling, postage or other fees, thus the actual fine may be lower!) can be enforced across EU countries. That is, in case of non-payment, the authorities of the owner's or driver's country of residence take care of collecting the amount.

So far the theory, at least. In practice, a number of obstacles occur.
Germany, for example, does not recognize "owner liability" in road traffic. Thus, if another EU country sends a fine to a German vehicle owner without knowing the responsible driver, and the German owner challenges the fine stating the driver responsible for the offence is unknown, the German authority will not assist in collecting the fine.
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Old April 4th, 2016, 09:48 PM   #7206
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Any country can send traffic tickets to any other country the interesting part is always - how can its payment be enforced across countries, if the recipient does not pay "voluntarily"?

Since late 2010, there is an EU-wide co-operation agreement under which traffic fines surpassing EUR 70.- (including any handling, postage or other fees, thus the actual fine may be lower!) can be enforced across EU countries. That is, in case of non-payment, the authorities of the owner's or driver's country of residence take care of collecting the amount.

So far the theory, at least. In practice, a number of obstacles occur.
Germany, for example, does not recognize "owner liability" in road traffic. Thus, if another EU country sends a fine to a German vehicle owner without knowing the responsible driver, and the German owner challenges the fine stating the driver responsible for the offence is unknown, the German authority will not assist in collecting the fine.

What you wrote is correct. In the reality romanian drivers needs to pay finally...

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Old April 5th, 2016, 10:16 AM   #7207
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Old April 6th, 2016, 03:39 PM   #7208
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The smart traffic cameras in operation since yesterday transmit recorded violations to police on the same day, who then set the fine and mail it instantly.

Some of the fine amounts in Forints, with 1 EUR = ca. 310 HUF:

Excess of speed limit: 30'000 to 300'000
Seat belt not fastened: 10'000 to 20'000
Running red traffic light: 50'000
Crossing a safety line: 30'000
Violation of mandatory driving direction: 50'000
Entry where prohibited: 30'000
Driving on motorway hard shoulder: 100'000
Driving in bus lane: 30'000
Driving a vehicle with expired technical inspection: 40'000 to 60'000

http://www.hirado.hu/2016/04/06/igy-...-szupertraffi/
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Old April 6th, 2016, 04:02 PM   #7209
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Though the "Seat belt not fastened" part can only be checked in the photos manually and only in a handful of cases when visibility is clear. So I think 1) they only threw it in the mix to make people a bit more keen on following the law 2) if someone will get a speeding ticket, then perhaps some policemen will check if his seatbelt was fastened and if there is clear evidence that it wasn't, then will they assign a fine for that as well.
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Old April 9th, 2016, 04:10 PM   #7210
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Excess of speed limit: 30'000 to 300'000
That's expensive! Does anyone know if there is a fixed fine for excess of speed limit (e.g. up to 20 km/h above)?
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Old April 9th, 2016, 04:13 PM   #7211
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Which section of M86 is it? Somewhere near Csorna or Szombathely?
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Old April 9th, 2016, 04:22 PM   #7212
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There's a '84' on the sign. That means, it's near Hegyfalu b/n Csorna and Szombathely.
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Yeah, I noticed that. So basically it means that Csorna and Szombathely are connected now?
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No, look on the map. There's a 33km gap from the exit on the pic to Csorna which is announced to be opened in fall 2016. It's the last gap b/n M1 and Szombathely.
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Ah, now I'm beginning to understand. In the 4th photo that gap (yet to be opened) is visible, and in the next photo it's the stretch near Csorna.
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Old April 10th, 2016, 03:03 AM   #7216
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That's expensive! Does anyone know if there is a fixed fine for excess of speed limit (e.g. up to 20 km/h above)?
It is expensive when compared to a Hungarian average salary - in some Western countries, they charge significantly more, but drivers usually pay it from a Western salary. However, in countries like Switzerland or Norway, other sanctions may apply for high excesses, e.g. vehicle seizure and prison sentence.

Found two seemingly up-to-date web sites showing the fine amounts.
There are three main "regions" for the fines: speed limits of up to 50 km/h, of up to 100 km/h, and above 100 km/h.
As can be expected, the same absolute excess is more heavily penalized when committed in a lower speed limit area.

http://kalkulatorlap.hu/gyorshajtas_...i_tetelek.html
http://www.traffipaxinfo.hu/gyorshaj...untetesek.html

Basically, the max fine amount of 300'000 Ft (ca. EUR 950.-) applies for an excess of more than 75 km/h on a road limited to 50 km/h or less, an excess of more than 105 km/h on roads limited to between 50 and 100 km/h, or an excess of more than 110 km/h on roads limited to more than 100 km/h.

As an example, for driving 220 km/h on a motorway (with max limit of 130 km/h), a fine of 130'000 Ft (ca. EUR 400.-) is given.
For a Swiss driver, this is cheap. IN Switzerland, an excess of more than 80 km/h on a motorway falls under the Via Sicura "anti-racer law" and is sanctioned per default by seizure of the vehicle, suspension of license and likely a prison term.
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Old April 10th, 2016, 08:44 AM   #7217
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What happens if you drive with 149 km/h on a motorway? From that table I would say you don't get any fine. Is this true?
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What happens if you drive with 149 km/h on a motorway? From that table I would say you don't get any fine. Is this true?
You will be fined the tolerance is +3%. It means above 135 km/h you will receive the speeding ticket. The tables aren't correct.
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traffipaxinfo.hu claims they have their information from the "traffipax" subsection of police.hu - which I haven't managed to find when browsing the site.

I guess the information is correct, but incomplete then, with regions below 15/20 km/h of excess not covered.

Do they mail the fines in Romanian to addresses in Romania? Is the amount in forints, or lei?
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What happens if you drive with 149 km/h on a motorway? From that table I would say you don't get any fine. Is this true?
AFAIK you'll not get a ticket when driving 149 km/h by the automated system, but you can still get an on-the-spot fine if police stops you.
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