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Old July 19th, 2016, 05:14 AM   #7401
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according to your location info, that is really really weird statement.

Damn, that long line looks like hell.

Question: Isn't there some kind of fast lane for those with electronic toll card or device?
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Old July 19th, 2016, 09:02 AM   #7402
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according to your location info, that is really really weird statement.

Thats a Sondermautstrecke on A9 or A10 I guess. If Italy reduces toll booths to special bridges and tunnels only, Ill give it a second thought. Until then, I dont like them, and I am glad they are gone in Hungary for good.
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Old July 19th, 2016, 01:08 PM   #7403
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Damn, that long line looks like hell.

Question: Isn't there some kind of fast lane for those with electronic toll card or device?
On the left, marked with "Video Maut" (literally "video tolling"), is a kind-of fast lane; it works with filming and detecting your number plate, and you can buy either a yearly subscription, or also just single trips.
See https://www.asfinag.at/toll/special-and-videotoll. Has to be bought in advance, though.

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Thats a Sondermautstrecke on A9 or A10 I guess. If Italy reduces toll booths to special bridges and tunnels only, Ill give it a second thought. Until then, I dont like them, and I am glad they are gone in Hungary for good.

I think this is showing the Brenner motorway to Italy, so that is A13.

Besides that, I do fully agree that tolling via toll-booths is a very antique technique, and they should be replaced - but only if it works with video tolling, and doesn't require a special device for each country; after all, EETS, the European Electronic Toll Service, which would allow interoperability, is still quite far away...
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Old July 20th, 2016, 03:04 AM   #7404
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Old July 20th, 2016, 06:50 PM   #7405
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Thats a Sondermautstrecke on A9 or A10 I guess. If Italy reduces toll booths to special bridges and tunnels only, Ill give it a second thought. Until then, I dont like them, and I am glad they are gone in Hungary for good.
on my usual routes i pass more toll booths in Austria travelling to München than in Italy travelling to Milano.
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Old July 20th, 2016, 07:53 PM   #7406
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on my usual routes i pass more toll booths in Austria travelling to München than in Italy travelling to Milano.
As I said, its a special thing. You are the exception. I pass zero toll booths travelling from Budapest to München. And thats good.
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Old July 21st, 2016, 06:20 PM   #7407
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It says, it's a 1.class mainroad ( Elsörendü föút )
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Old July 25th, 2016, 12:44 PM   #7408
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I managed to buy the Hungarian vignette at Duino rest area on Italian A4, where I stopped to buy the Slovenian one. I didn't expect to find it that far away.
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In real life, electronic toll collection was first introduced in Bergen, Norway in 1986, and well into the 21th century many countries still struggle to implement it.

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Old July 25th, 2016, 03:51 PM   #7409
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you mean your car plate was registered and you received a bill of it, right? Because we dont have "physical" vignettes anymore.
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Old July 25th, 2016, 04:25 PM   #7410
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I think he means that his car`s no. plate has been introduced/entered to the hungarian matrica system in Italy what is a really suprise also for me

I can confirm that in BC b/n Czechia and Slovakia on D2 motoway you can also "buy " hungarian matrica on the Slovakian side in the place where was check point before Schengen agreement.
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Old July 25th, 2016, 04:37 PM   #7411
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Yes I just got a receipt that I was told to keep, nothing to stick on the windshield. Better like this, I still have two Austrian vignettes, two Slovenian, and a Czech that I'm to lazy to remove
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Old July 25th, 2016, 05:00 PM   #7412
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Yes I just got a receipt that I was told to keep, nothing to stick on the windshield. Better like this, I still have two Austrian vignettes, two Slovenian, and a Czech that I'm to lazy to remove
I am also surprised that they registered your car in Italy for Hungary, I thought someone may sold you a former Hungarian sticker.

Yeah, I cant remove my Czech vignette either. I am gonna have to try it with benzine (? not sure it thats the proper english word for it).
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Old July 25th, 2016, 08:11 PM   #7413
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(...) it with benzine (? not sure it thats the proper english word for it).
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Old July 25th, 2016, 11:29 PM   #7414
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Yeah, I cant remove my Czech vignette either. I am gonna have to try it with benzine (? not sure it thats the proper english word for it).
Yes, they are really tough to remove. Same with the Slovenian stickers. Try the following: when you still have fragments of the sticker left, put some glass cleaner on toilet paper and rub the sticker for a while until it is gone. This usually works for me with the Slovenian stickers, although it does take some time.
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Old July 25th, 2016, 11:34 PM   #7415
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Yes, they are really tough to remove. Same with the Slovenian stickers. Try the following: when you still have fragments of the sticker left, put some glass cleaner on toilet paper and rub the sticker for a while until it is gone. This usually works for me with the Slovenian stickers, although it does take some time.
Weird, I was gonna say that the Slovenian sticker came off from my glass very easily.
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Old July 25th, 2016, 11:37 PM   #7416
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Old July 26th, 2016, 11:21 AM   #7417
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Weird, I was gonna say that the Slovenian sticker came off from my glass very easily.
If you removed it few days or weeks after using it, it goes easy. If it is on windshield for few months, it is disaster. It is made of some very thin foil and very firmly glued, so it breaks into pieces. Austrian and Slovakian are made of stronger fat foil so you peel them off in one piece, they just sometimes leave glue stain that you need to scratch off.
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Old July 26th, 2016, 11:50 AM   #7418
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Why do people Stick it to the shield anyway? Just place it on the dashboard without peeling off the paper. The validity doesnt change just because you dont glue it on. Lol
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Old July 26th, 2016, 12:39 PM   #7419
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[We are a bit off-topic from the Hungarian motorways, but nonetheless]

People do stick the Slovenian vignette on the shield - because that is the only way to have a valid vignette

See e.g. http://www.dars.si/Dokumenti/Toll/Me...nette_310.aspx

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A vignette may only be used on one vehicle. When applying a vignette it is not permitted to use other glues, special foils, adhesive tapes and similar.

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A vignette is only valid when it is properly displayed on a vehicle prior to use of a toll road. After removing the protection foil, place a vignette undamaged on the left inner side of a windscreen, in such a way that it is visible from outside. Vignette should not be placed in a spot where the windscreen is dark or to a side window of a vehicle.

Please make sure, before applying a vignette, to read the displaying instructions on the back side of a vignette. Always remove a previously displayed or invalid vignette prior to placing a new valid vignette.
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Old July 26th, 2016, 02:05 PM   #7420
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Why do people Stick it to the shield anyway? Just place it on the dashboard without peeling off the paper. The validity doesnt change just because you dont glue it on. Lol
Sure it does...in Slovenia and everywhere else....
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