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Old September 27th, 2016, 11:50 PM   #7521
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Can't understand why there isn't a higher emphasis on a Sopron - Balaton expressway connection. I can't be the only prospective user of that track.
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Old September 28th, 2016, 06:48 AM   #7522
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I use it regularly as well, but lets be fair, mostly in the summer time. If they connect S31 to future M9, there would be a nice connection from Vienna to the Balaton.
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Old September 28th, 2016, 10:26 AM   #7523
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M8+M86 will be a nice shorter route from Budapest to southern Austria. It's 30 km shorter to Graz / Klagenfurt than via M7 & Slovenia, also saving the Slovenian vignette in the process.
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Old September 28th, 2016, 12:07 PM   #7524
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and it would be good alternative for Slovaks, 1/3 Poles, citizens of Baltic country and others going to Adriatic sea coast or ski resorts to Austria or Italy
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Old September 28th, 2016, 12:24 PM   #7525
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I use it regularly as well, but lets be fair, mostly in the summer time. If they connect S31 to future M9, there would be a nice connection from Vienna to the Balaton.

S31 is currently extended as a 1+1 national road from Oberpullendorf to "close to the border" near Köszeg, between Mannersdorf and Rattersdorf: http://www.openstreetmap.org/relatio...7.4186/16.5845



There is a common project to define the route towards the border and connect it with a road towards Köszeg, but the route is not defined, see (in German only): http://www.meinbezirk.at/oberpullend...-d1429832.html

=> I don't think we would see a motorway or express way standard on this route in Austria in the next decade(s).

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There is however periodically a talk to extend A3 (from Eisenstadt/Wulkaprodersdorf) towards Klingenbach, see e.g. this artikel from this year (in German only): https://kurier.at/chronik/burgenland...de/196.430.626

Here, the resistance of the villages/towns along the route is fierce, there is no detailed proposal yet, so also this is at least a decade away...
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Old September 28th, 2016, 12:31 PM   #7526
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There is however periodically a talk to extend A3 (from Eisenstadt/Wulkaprodersdorf) towards Klingenbach, see e.g. this artikel from this year (in German only): https://kurier.at/chronik/burgenland...de/196.430.626

Here, the resistance of the villages/towns along the route is fierce, there is no detailed proposal yet, so also this is at least a decade away...
Yes, I know. However, they should get used to it that there must be some kind of a solution for the last kilometers of A3. The traffic there is huge (see the map on the previous page), and M85 will be built as well in a few years.

By the way, do they extend the roundabout at Siegendorf/Zagendorf? Looks like if they would widen B16 there.

EDIT: yes they are

http://www.bvz.at/eisenstadt/kreisve...ten/12.457.183

However, there is a second roundabout a few meters towards the HU border.

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Old September 29th, 2016, 08:45 PM   #7527
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Will M9 be finished in our lifetimes? People traveling between Romania and Italy have to make a detour north to Budapest, there is no fast direct road from Szeged to Nagykanizsa.
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Old September 29th, 2016, 08:48 PM   #7528
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Will M9 be finished in our lifetimes? People traveling between Romania and Italy have to make a detour north to Budapest, there is no fast direct road from Szeged to Nagykanizsa.
There is. It is called Croatia and Serbia. I mean, not that I would complain, of course we happily take this traffic to Hungary, but lets face Italy -Timisoara shouldnt really go through Hungary.

As for M9, it has no priority to be honest, I dont expect it to be build until 2030.
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Old September 29th, 2016, 08:51 PM   #7529
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That requires crossing more borders (with controls - outside Schengen), and in general the travel time is longer. A southern motorway in Hungary would be very helpful... as right now all roads lead to Rome Budapest.
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Old September 29th, 2016, 08:57 PM   #7530
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That requires crossing more borders (with controls - outside Schengen), and in general the travel time is longer. A southern motorway in Hungary would be very helpful... as right now all roads lead to Rome Budapest.
Google maps tells me Ljubjana-Timisoara is 7:10 through Budapest, and 7:00 through Belgrade. Youre right regarding the border checks of course.

However, the minute Serbia joins the EU and Schengen (lets not go into politics now, just assume it for a second) M9 will be useless for international traffic from that direction.

EDIT: okay, maybe Timisoara wasnt a good choice, but its certainly shorter to Bucharest through HR/SRB.
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Old September 30th, 2016, 12:11 PM   #7531
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What I wonder more is why the Gyor-81-62-Keckemet route is not planned for any upgrades, really.It is a natural relief route for the M1-M0-M5 stretch which is constantly very busy anyway.
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Old September 30th, 2016, 11:08 PM   #7532
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I just drove today on M1-M0-M5. It was always full of cars and lorries, but between Tatabanya and Budapest the road was full with traffic. What surprised me that also the 3+3 stretch of M0 was very crowded, full of traffic on all 3 lanes. I can't imagine what would have been if they wouldn't have upgraded it...
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Old September 30th, 2016, 11:14 PM   #7533
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Well, today is Friday and people in Germany have an extended weekend due to German Unity Day on Monday. Perhaps many Romanians drive home for that weekend.
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Old September 30th, 2016, 11:29 PM   #7534
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In 2015 traffic data
- M0 between km 10-23 (these are actually the Danube bridges) has an AADT of 100,000. 2×2 with no shoulder it would be a nightmare.
- M0 between km 0-30 (M1 intersection - M5 intersection) has an AADT of at least 70,000, but at the majority of measuring points over 80,000. For such a traffic density 2×3 is heavily needed.
- M1 between km 17-38 (M0 intersection - Bicske) 70,000 or more, between 38 - 129 (Bicske - M86 intersection) ~ 60,000. 2×3 would be needed but it is not even planned (some weeks ago it was announced but some days later cancelled).

Since the traffin of M1 and M0 is increasing, I suppose the 2016 numbers are actually higher.

The Hungarian government want rather invest in motorways in regions where there is not any motor- or expressway, even if expected traffic is very low. I think it, too, has sense.
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Old September 30th, 2016, 11:32 PM   #7535
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Well, today is Friday and people in Germany have an extended weekend due to German Unity Day on Monday. Perhaps many Romanians drive home for that weekend.
(I planned to fly to Hungary but my flight was annulled. I decided staying in Germany).
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Old September 30th, 2016, 11:51 PM   #7536
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The Hungarian government want rather invest in motorways in regions where there is not any motor- or expressway...
...therefore provides a new alternative road to traffic (M8 + M9) and connect county capitals into motorway system.
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Old October 1st, 2016, 01:09 PM   #7537
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1505/2016 is the actual order (without the renewals):
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Old October 2nd, 2016, 08:51 PM   #7538
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The new design, this resembles the polish map:


Cleaned the dead projects based on the 1505/2016 (IX.21. government decree) and fixed the faults.
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Old October 3rd, 2016, 04:44 AM   #7539
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Thanks for this excellent map!!!
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Old October 3rd, 2016, 11:33 AM   #7540
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Yeah, great map! Congratulations! But some suggestions, would be nice to do bigger road numbers and/or give source to bigger resolution of the map.
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