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Old February 11th, 2017, 12:10 PM   #7741
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I'll be driving from Budapest to Croatian seaside in early summer. Obviously the fastest way is to take M7 straight to the border, but I'm wondering whether it's worth taking a national road on the Northern shore of lake Balaton. Is it a nice road and with something to see along the way? Time is not a problem as I'm planning to reach the sea in a single day in any case.
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Old February 11th, 2017, 12:26 PM   #7742
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I'll be driving from Budapest to Croatian seaside in early summer. Obviously the fastest way is to take M7 straight to the border, but I'm wondering whether it's worth taking a national road on the Northern shore of lake Balaton. Is it a nice road and with something to see along the way? Time is not a problem as I'm planning to reach the sea in a single day in any case.
The detour would add at least 1,5 hours to your overall trip even without stopping anywhere. It depends where you have NOT been before. If both destinations are new to you, I would say, the driving fun on the curvy roads of the Croatian seaside beats Balaton...

What is your final destination in Croatia?
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Old February 11th, 2017, 12:41 PM   #7743
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The detour would add at least 1,5 hours to your overall trip even without stopping anywhere. It depends where you have NOT been before. If both destinations are new to you, I would say, the driving fun on the curvy roads of the Croatian seaside beats Balaton...

What is your final destination in Croatia?
It will be our first time in both Hungary and Croatia. It's all still in a planning phase so no exact destination in Croatia yet (possibly Split as a furthest point). The only thing for certain is that we have nine full days for a road trip Budapest -Croatian seaside and back.
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Old February 11th, 2017, 01:05 PM   #7744
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I'll be driving from Budapest to Croatian seaside in early summer. Obviously the fastest way is to take M7 straight to the border, but I'm wondering whether it's worth taking a national road on the Northern shore of lake Balaton. Is it a nice road and with something to see along the way? Time is not a problem as I'm planning to reach the sea in a single day in any case.
Veszprém county is definately worth a visit. The most diverse county in Hungary imo. So while I absolutely recommend the detour via road 71, make sure to stop at least at Balatonfüred, Zánka (Hegyestű),Tihany peninsula and Szigliget castle.

If you have a little more time I recommend going a bit further north to road 77 and to stop in Tapolca. Cave boat trips absolutely rule!

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Old February 11th, 2017, 02:24 PM   #7745
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It will be our first time in both Hungary and Croatia. It's all still in a planning phase so no exact destination in Croatia yet (possibly Split as a furthest point). The only thing for certain is that we have nine full days for a road trip Budapest -Croatian seaside and back.
http://dailynewshungary.com/6-must-s...-uplands-area/

http://welovebalaton.hu/sights.cultu....national.park

And googling "Balaton Uplands" (Balaton Felvidék in Hungarian) will give you much more.
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Old February 11th, 2017, 09:09 PM   #7746
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M85 is finally on Google Maps.
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Old February 11th, 2017, 09:57 PM   #7747
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Is there "Rettungsgasse" in Hungary?



Yesterday there was a minor accident on M5 southbound close to Budapest. There was a 1 or 2 km slow moving traffic (stop-and-go). All vehicles remained in their lanes, with the hard shoulder (emergency lane) free. Nothing unusual until now.

There was a police car and a fire truck that drove to the accident scene on the hard shoulder. Then there was an ambulance that drove on the center of the road, forcing the vehicles on the right lane to move to the hard shoulder and form the "Rettungsgasse". Few minutes later another ambulance came, but on the hard shoulder, forcing the same vehicles to move back to the first driving lane.

I don't have a problem with either system, but the Hungarian authorities should decide to one of them and stick to that one. Not use both, as it is confusing for the drivers and also causes delays for the emergency vehicles.
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Old February 11th, 2017, 10:28 PM   #7748
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Old February 12th, 2017, 02:27 AM   #7749
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M85 is finally on Google Maps.
Sorry, but this is M86.
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Old February 12th, 2017, 11:56 AM   #7750
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M85 is also shown on Google Maps, so I was technically correct
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Old February 12th, 2017, 12:46 PM   #7751
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Is there "Rettungsgasse" in Hungary?

Yes, it was added to the road code ("KRESZ") in 2012 (section 8 of § 37).
The Rettungsgasse has to be formed in the same way as in the West: forming a corridor by vehicles in the left(most) lane moving to the left, and vehicles in the other lane(s) moving to the right.

The Rettungsgasse is mandated not only for emergency vehicles (using their emergency signals), but also for: traffic control vehicles, road maintenance and cleaning vehicles, and those recovering broken-down vehicles or providing technical assistance.

These latter cases are controversial since those vehicles usually do not use emergency signals, thus (apart from yellow roof lights) they aren't recognizable well in advance to drivers.

http://kreszforum.hu/tema-1/
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Old February 12th, 2017, 01:21 PM   #7752
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Is there "Rettungsgasse" in Hungary?
Theoretically, yes, it was added to traffic code just like Corvinus wrote. However, this change was hardly published, I suppose a vast majority of Hungarian drivers has never heard about it.
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Old February 16th, 2017, 01:32 AM   #7753
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Wednesday morning: Pile-up of seven vehicles on M43 in extraordinarily foggy weather, 1 km from the border crossing, resulting in four fatalities and 13 transported to hospital, of whom five had to be cut out of their vehicles. According to Csongrád county police, there were no Hungarians involved.

The four dead victims are two Turks, a Romanian and a Bulgarian citizen. The majority of the wounded are Romanians and Bulgarians, as are the vehicles involved in the crash.

A Romanian witness of the scene said local emergency services were quick to arrive. According to Romanian television Digi24, ambulances were also sent from Arad across the border to assist in the rescue.

The motorway was closed down, with traffic diverted at Csanádpalota. Csongrád county police were distributing sandwiches and tea to those at the scene and have started criminal proceedings for causing a mass traffic accident with fatalities (article does not say if there is already any suspect).



http://www.hirado.hu/2017/02/15/hala...anadpalotanal/
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Old February 18th, 2017, 03:29 PM   #7754
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Terrible story but not astonishing considering how many romanians/bulgarians/turks are going, they drive like crazy especially into fog, they don't seems to realise the danger in such situations...
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Old February 19th, 2017, 03:33 PM   #7755
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Also, exhaustion at the wheel is a serious issue with these transiting gastarbeiters (and a part of truck drivers as well). They want to save time and money to the maximum possible, thus neglecting necessary rest (let alone, overnight stays in a hotel) to the point of over-exploiting themselves.
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Old March 2nd, 2017, 01:20 AM   #7756
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When will they start widening the M70? Wasn't contract signed already a few months ago?
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Old March 2nd, 2017, 08:13 AM   #7757
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It`s build and design tender. They need some months to make the project
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Old March 2nd, 2017, 09:43 AM   #7758
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Motorway and main road truck traffic in 2015:

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It's about heavy traffic, not all traffic!
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Old March 2nd, 2017, 09:58 AM   #7760
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Corrected.
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