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Old June 24th, 2017, 08:04 PM   #7841
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Will it have a median barrier, or just a white line?
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Old June 24th, 2017, 08:11 PM   #7842
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Will it have a median barrier, or just a white line?
Median barrier. The whole road will look like this:

http://static.origos.hu/s/img/i/1509...zamu-fout1.jpg
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Old June 24th, 2017, 08:12 PM   #7843
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Old June 25th, 2017, 12:08 AM   #7844
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That's good. There is significant improvement in safety an driving comfort on a road with hard central barrier compared to just a white line.
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Old June 25th, 2017, 09:52 AM   #7845
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In the upcoming 5 years a lot of such roads will be put into service in Hungary:

-road 8 between Székesfehérvár-Herend (without Veszprém bypass unfortunately )
-road 21 (M3-Salgótarján)
-road 47 (M43-Hódmezővásárhely)

And lets not forget to newly introduced R roads (i still hope they trash that term)

-R11 (M1-Esztergom)
-R49 (M3-Csenger)
-R67 (M7-Kaposvár)
-R76 (M7-Zalaegerszeg)
-R83 (M1-Pápa)

All will look like the above mentioned road, and will be toll-free.
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Old June 27th, 2017, 01:25 PM   #7846
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In the upcoming 5 years a lot of such roads will be put into service in Hungary:
-road 47 (M43-Hódmezővásárhely)
Isn't that done already? At least partially it looks like that since years ago. I remember driving on it about 3-4 years ago and it had 2 lanes per direction and median barrier.
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Old June 27th, 2017, 02:34 PM   #7847
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Isn't that done already? At least partially it looks like that since years ago. I remember driving on it about 3-4 years ago and it had 2 lanes per direction and median barrier.
Yes, except this bridge at Algyö, its entirely 2x2 between Szeged and Hódmezövásárhely already:

https://www.google.at/maps/@46.35115...2!8i6656?hl=hu
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Old June 29th, 2017, 08:06 PM   #7848
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Construction works of M25 from M3 to Eger will start in May.
This 2x2 expressway will be 19 kms long, and should be ready in 2020.

http://index.hu/gazdasag/2017/04/05/...utout_epitese/

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A He-Do, a Colas és a KM kivitelezésében indult el az M25-ös építése

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Old July 1st, 2017, 11:12 PM   #7849
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There have been some upgrading works at exit from M0 towards M1 motorway, westbound. The right lane (M0 entering M1) has been widened, and now I see that they changed also the signange. Previously the right lane was merging into the second lane at the top of the hill, but now the leftmost lane merges to the middle. This sign is brand new:



I find this solution good as from M0 there are many lorries driving to M1, and now they won't have to change the lane anymore.

In Austria, where the motorway has steep inclines, the additional lane is always added to the left, not to the right like in most countries. After driving a lot of km's with both systems, I find the Austrian way of doing it much better, as it forces all slow traffic to stay on the right, while those wishing to pass will go to the left lane. In Hungary for example, where the climbing lane is added to the right, I have seen it many times unused, especially by slow buses or vans, but sometimes also lorry drivers seem to forget to move on it.
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Old July 1st, 2017, 11:16 PM   #7850
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I don't understand why some countries build climbing lanes on hills and then have them end at the top of the hill. Yes the climb ends there, but it forces trucks to merge with traffic right when they are at their slowest. It's better to have it continue a few hundred meters so they can gain speed, or indeed add a left lane instead of a right lane.

In France they usually add a climbing lane in lieu of a shoulder, so at the top all truck traffic has to merge again. In Spain they usually add a left lane like in Austria, regardless of traffic volume apparently. Some very low volume motorways widen up to three lanes on hills even if there is almost no traffic.
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Old July 1st, 2017, 11:55 PM   #7851
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I like the Austrian way, but only if all lanes are equally wide. If the slow lane is rather narrow, then I still prefer adding it on the right and also merging it back instead of merging the overtaking lane like it's sometimes done here.
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Old July 1st, 2017, 11:59 PM   #7852
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In Austria all lanes are equally wide. I found this system working the best. Lorries stay in their lane, while small cars wishing to overtake can easily and quickly move to the left lane. Also at the end of the climbing section there are no more lorries at 60-70 km/h that go in front of cars driving at 130 km/h, forcing them to break.
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Old July 6th, 2017, 11:20 AM   #7853
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The winner for the complete design work of the M34 expressway (39,3 km 2x2) between M3 and Záhony (Ukranian border) was announced today.

http://ted.europa.eu/udl?uri=TED:NOT...:HU:HTML&src=0
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Old July 6th, 2017, 10:27 PM   #7854
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Old July 6th, 2017, 10:39 PM   #7855
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Don't know about this specific one, but back in the day, the present gov't of Hungary announced that establishing motorway connections to all neighbouring countries is one of their infrastructural priorities. Obviously this won't exclude Ukraine, already b/c of the Hungarian population of the Lower Carpathians.

When politicians say "motorway", that easily includes 2x2 expressways I suppose.
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Old July 6th, 2017, 11:54 PM   #7856
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I'd rather see the M3, but this isn't bad either.
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Old July 7th, 2017, 12:17 AM   #7857
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In this case motor/expressways are above all the other roads, so it is fine. There is no need for motorway (M34) there.
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Old July 7th, 2017, 08:20 AM   #7858
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Credit to Aladar. U/C M44...

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Képriport: itt tartanak most az M44-es munkálatai

http://magyarepitok.hu/utepites/2017...-es-munkalatai





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Old July 7th, 2017, 08:25 AM   #7859
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U/C Hódmezővásárhely (aka Hmvhely) bypass.

Once again credit to Aladar.

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Aszfaltozzák a 47-es főút elkerülő szakaszát Hódmezővásárhelyen, a Rárósi úti csomópontnál

http://www.delmagyar.hu/kepek/aszfal...ntnal/2053349/



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Old July 7th, 2017, 01:12 PM   #7860
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U/C Hódmezővásárhely (aka Hmvhely) bypass.

Once again credit to Aladar.
When it will be finished?
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