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Old December 14th, 2017, 12:41 AM   #8021
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First video about the new M35 motorway section


The Debrecen's bypass starts at 0:22 sec:

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Old December 15th, 2017, 10:03 AM   #8022
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4,5 kms of M85 will be inaugurated today. The city of Csorna is now completely freed of transit traffic from any direction.



Construction works on M85 should commence towards Sopron from spring next year (approx. 57 kms).
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Old December 15th, 2017, 02:45 PM   #8023
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I drove last week on M85/M86 from Gyor to Szombathely, for the first time. What surprised me was that the section near Csorna where M85/M86 coincide, there are 3 and even 4 lanes per direction.
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Old December 15th, 2017, 03:06 PM   #8024
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Yeah, thats a little bit of an overcapacity. But who knows, maybe it will be a good alternative for M1-A4 one day, and than those four lanes will be needed badly.

What always strikes me is the other end of M85: that stupid roundabout.
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Old December 15th, 2017, 08:42 PM   #8025
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What always strikes me is the other end of M85: that stupid roundabout.
Yes, very much agree with you, this is the most stupid money-saver I've seen in Hungary, where otherwise new motorways and expressways are built in a modern and clever way!
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Old December 16th, 2017, 01:05 PM   #8026
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I took a few pictures of M85's new section today morning.

Entering from Sopron:





Here is where the new section starts.









2-laned ramp from Sopron direction.



M85/M86:




M85:



M86:



From here I went all the way to M86 Csorna-North, and turned back in the opposite direction in the roundabout on road 86.

M85/M86 splitting from direction Győr. The outer lane was closed until yesterday. No "M85" markings have been painted on the road so far. From here I went to Szilsárkány exit on M86, turned back, to see also the M85/M86 ramp coming from Szombathely.




Here it is. M85 ramp coming on M86 from Szombathely.





1-lane ramps, but fortunately the fly-over is 2x2.





1-laned ramps coming from both directions. Szombathely left, Győr right.



New section of M85, now towards Sopron.







Construction works will commence here soon.




Lets go home.



I hope it wasnt too hard to follow which way I went, and which ramps I used. There is a lot of them around Csorna now.
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Old December 16th, 2017, 01:13 PM   #8027
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Thanks for the report! That 4 lane section looks interesting, I did not expect that in rural Hungary
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Old December 16th, 2017, 01:38 PM   #8028
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The 4 lane stretch looks badass

Unfortunately this road is once again not for travellers from the West to Balaton. Will there ever be a decent expressway started along that axis?
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Old December 16th, 2017, 02:09 PM   #8029
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Actually, road 83 will be widened to 2x2 in the upcoming years from Győr to Pápa. I know its not the best solution, but it will help also traffic coming from M1 heading towards Balaton a little bit.

Same for M76 between M7 and Zalagerszeg:



Of course M9 would serve this direction best.
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Old December 16th, 2017, 02:49 PM   #8030
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It is interesting that beside four running lanes hard shoulders are actually soft shoulders.
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Old December 19th, 2017, 10:14 PM   #8031
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I took a few pictures of M85's new section today morning.


Where is Ljubljana??
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Old December 19th, 2017, 10:18 PM   #8032
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Maribor is on this sign:


It doesn't seem very consistent, though Zagreb is more in the north-south direction of M86 than Ljubljana is.
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Old December 19th, 2017, 10:27 PM   #8033
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It's strange that on one sign there's just a Croatian city and on the other just a Slovenian one. I actually think SLO and HR would be enough on the last pic.
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Old December 19th, 2017, 11:24 PM   #8034
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I think the solution is simply that Zagreb is a "more major" destination, hence it is on the distances sign. On the other sign, Maribor is the nearest major settlement accross the border. Also, M86 will not go towards to Croatia, but to Slovenia.

My 2 cents: It should have written "Graz".
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Old December 20th, 2017, 04:48 PM   #8035
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Instead of Maribor? Graz may be more important to locals, but in a wider context it's more a connection between Slovakia and Slovenia, especially for trucks.
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Old December 20th, 2017, 04:51 PM   #8036
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What is the planned route south of Szombathely? Will it follow Road 86 closely, or will it go a bit further east towards Zalaerszeg and Nagykanizsa?
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Old December 20th, 2017, 05:17 PM   #8037
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Sadly, there are no plans for an M86 south of road 8.



Road 86 serves traffic volumes quite well. There are only two small villages left to be bypassed between Szombathely and Slovenia (Kálócfa, Zalabaksa).
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Old December 20th, 2017, 06:13 PM   #8038
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Road 86 serves traffic volumes quite well. There are only two small villages left to be bypassed between Szombathely and Slovenia (Kálócfa, Zalabaksa).
First the the upgrade of road 86 between Szombathely and Körmend (2x2 main road with grade separations, basically an expressway according to Hungarian standards) have to be finished.

Currently in design phase (should conclude by the end of 2018)
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Old December 20th, 2017, 07:00 PM   #8039
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some pictures of M30 Tornyosnémeti - SK border

https://kosice.korzar.sme.sk/g/79069...-tornyosnemeti





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Our first motorway connection without any border facilities.
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