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Old July 13th, 2008, 02:12 AM   #961
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Google Earth (the part covering Hungary) has just been updated, now everything is at least "half" resolution, including M70, so it is quite visible. - So is Lendava, but unfortunatelly the new things are not shown.
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Old July 13th, 2008, 03:19 AM   #962
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^ Not that good resolution.
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Old July 13th, 2008, 09:47 AM   #963
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^ Not that good resolution.
Come on! It is WAAAAAAY much better than it was, the WHOLE country is covered (!!!) and you can certainly see where M70 is full, and where it is half profile.

GOOGLE rulez!
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Old July 13th, 2008, 12:50 PM   #964
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That's strange. I've already seen it on maps, but I thought it was b/c of the entrance and exit lanes (not that it's a good enough reason). Maybe it's so you can overtake someone slower (sth like the Moscow - Saint Petersburg road, where you can overtake every now and then, so there are three lanes all the time).
look at Kaposvar bypass, there is even better example of that full-profile at exits
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Old July 13th, 2008, 01:33 PM   #965
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^ Hungarian exits are quite entertaining. Maybe it's so the traffic can merge easier?
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Old July 13th, 2008, 02:13 PM   #966
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Yeah, electricity? Does anyone know what this is? Because on the Hun side it looks like a large capacity power line and it just stops at the border...
This is planned Slovenia-Hungary power link, 2x400kV. On Slovenian side it is still in planning phase and should be finished to the end of 2011.
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Old July 13th, 2008, 02:42 PM   #967
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I'd say its because its the junctions are the hardest to extend if the other side is built,and this way,they simply avoid that. I've seen Hatvan's new northern bypass's exit built on M3,while maintaining traffic...it was a long work,though we build overpasses like commie-blocks were used to be built...from pre-made elements.
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Old July 13th, 2008, 07:42 PM   #968
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look at Kaposvar bypass, there is even better example of that full-profile at exits
Yes, but IMO it has been screwed up fundamentally, along with the (very few) other things built at the time. As to why it is good that junctions are built full scale -- even if connecting sections are left half profile --I think it is obvious. My problem with the Kaposvár bypass (future M9) and the Szekszárd M9 section is that the most important intersections on these are built with circles (roundabouts) whereas every dirt road has an overpass. It is crazy, a royal mess that will cost a lot to clean up in the future. I think of the 67-M9 intersection (Kaposvár) circle, and the 6-M9 Szekszárd intsc. circle. (There are actually 2 of these here.)
Mind you, at the u/c M6-M9 crossing the critical M9 part will be upgraded to full profile, so it will be a full clover intersection.
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well, i guess that those roundabouts ae just temporary. anyway, no reasone not to make allready multilevel intersection instead of them. and the shape of bypass is weird, why does it have that weird direction at the middle?
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Old July 15th, 2008, 12:32 AM   #970
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Yes, eventually they will have to be rebuilt, it is just a lot of extra cost.--
--Why the weird shape of the Kaposvár beltway? I am not sure, I just think they wanted to keep a certain distance from the city. Also it is a hilly area, so that might have influenced it, too.
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Old July 15th, 2008, 11:05 AM   #971
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and the shape of bypass is weird, why does it have that weird direction at the middle?
das ist ungarische wirtschaft...
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Old July 15th, 2008, 11:10 AM   #972
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Mind you, at the u/c M6-M9 crossing the critical M9 part will be upgraded to full profile, so it will be a full clover intersection.
hiphip hurray!
we will have another* outsized ineffective motorway junction!
(*the other one is the M6xM8)

but I can't leave the M4 at üllő without 10minutes waiting...
hiphip hurray!
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Old July 15th, 2008, 09:51 PM   #973
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Ineffective=not effective, like M4 at Üllő.

Unnecessary (what you probably wanted to write) = not necessary.
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Old July 16th, 2008, 12:00 PM   #974
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"ineffective" means "kihasználatlan" also...

and I wouldn't say that the M6xM9 IC is "unnecessary", because there has to be a junction, but I expressly say it is unnecessarily oversized...

it is total insanity to build so oversized, extremly expensive ICs, while we have so many dangerous, outdated intersections (at grade junctions)...
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Old July 17th, 2008, 03:18 PM   #975
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final countdown for inauguration...


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It's the final countdown, lalalala...
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Old July 17th, 2008, 04:09 PM   #977
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It's the final countdown, lalalala...
And even Europe is correct!
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Old July 17th, 2008, 04:32 PM   #978
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Where is this bridge?

I'm sorry not to read the 36 pages, but is the M6 finished? Last time I used it, there were only 60 km built.
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Old July 17th, 2008, 04:37 PM   #979
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Where is this bridge?

I'm sorry not to read the 36 pages, but is the M6 finished? Last time I used it, there were only 60 km built.
1,northern Budapest. Its western bridgehead is visible on Google maps,just outside the boundary of Budapest
2,Erm,no. M6-M0 junction is planned to be inaugurated this year,the rest from Dunaújváros all the way down to Pécs in 2010,its currently under construction.
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Old July 17th, 2008, 04:43 PM   #980
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Kozsonom szepen!
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