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Old August 1st, 2008, 09:45 PM   #1041
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Did you know that there is another long Nagyrákos viaduct on a railway between Zalaegerszeg and Hodoš (Slovenia)? It is 1400 m long, but not even nearly as high as Köröshegy is.
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Old August 1st, 2008, 09:56 PM   #1042
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we've built this viaduct for 200million EUR, but we have no money for a ******* roudabout for years.

this is total insane.
200 000 000?????? that's ******' expensive viaduct!!
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Old August 1st, 2008, 10:56 PM   #1043
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200 000 000?????? that's ******' expensive viaduct!!
If we want to exact,181.
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Old August 1st, 2008, 11:33 PM   #1044
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That's really damn expensive.

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Did you know that there is another long Nagyrákos viaduct on a railway between Zalaegerszeg and Hodoš (Slovenia)? It is 1400 m long, but not even nearly as high as Köröshegy is.
No, I didn't. It looks interesting:

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Old August 1st, 2008, 11:39 PM   #1045
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Interesting is that through that line is brand new,its currently being electrified,while a lot of other routes lack even proper "straight" tracks...
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Old August 2nd, 2008, 01:31 AM   #1046
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another excellent example for wasting money...

we built that viaduct 8 years ago, but we've made NOTHING since then with the connecting obsolete and deteriorated tracks...

so in this way this is not a good investment this is a dead money...
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Old August 2nd, 2008, 01:36 AM   #1047
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So it is Kőröshegy after all. I don't remember it from this angle, but of course I would've heard of it, if you were building sth like that.
you can look at it HERE
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Old August 2nd, 2008, 11:19 AM   #1048
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here is the alternative route of Köröshegy on satimage and birdseyeview:

This 14km long 320M EUR section could've been built on a 12km long route for100-150M EUR.


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Old August 2nd, 2008, 12:01 PM   #1049
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whatever the reasons were to build a viaduct and not the alternative shorter/cheaper route, the views must be spectacular, and you can see the Balaton lake from it

maybe the local community did not want that cheaper route, because it goes too close to the town; in Slovenia we also have few similar situations that seem unreasonable

btw, since we are comparing the names in different languages; slovenian name for Balaton is "Blatno jezero" which means the muddy lake; is in hungarian bala, balat somehow connected with the mud?
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AFAIK,Köröshegy vetoed every single other alternative...I'd advice the locals to keep their mouths shut in the upcoming decades if they want to rant about "unnecessary government spending"...
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whatever the reasons were to build a viaduct and not the alternative shorter/cheaper route, the views must be spectacular, and you can see the Balaton lake from it ?
nope.
you need to be a bridge inspector to admire the view.


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...maybe the local community did not want that cheaper route, because it goes too close to the town; in Slovenia we also have few similar situations that seem unreasonable...
yeah, you've hit the nail on the head...


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...btw, since we are comparing the names in different languages; slovenian name for Balaton is "Blatno jezero" which means the muddy lake; is in hungarian bala, balat somehow connected with the mud?
yeah, you've hit the nail on the head again: its name is from the slav word of "blato"
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AFAIK,Köröshegy vetoed every single other alternative...
well, the parliament should have vote against köröshegy.. (and balatonföldvár)

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I'd advice the locals to keep their mouths shut in the upcoming decades if they want to rant about "unnecessary government spending"...
you are too simple-minded: "unnecessary" doesn't mean unnecessary.
"unnecessary" means "spending money not for me."
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Old August 2nd, 2008, 12:21 PM   #1053
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yeah, you've hit the nail on the head again: its name is from the slav word of "blato"
Which beside mud also means shit.
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Old August 2nd, 2008, 01:00 PM   #1054
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Which beside mud also means shit.
yeah, there is not too much difference when you step into it...

(the hungarian words for them is very similar: mud - sár, shit - szar

the official name of SHIT (used by doctors) is bélSÁR (mud in bowel)
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you are too simple-minded: "unnecessary" doesn't mean unnecessary.
"unnecessary" means "spending money not for me."
No,not really. My district wasnt asked wether we wanted M0 100m away from the commies or not a few years ago,while others have the choice to ask for huge and expensive structures...I dont mind them having this viaduct,but then they shouldnt rant ever again about wrongly spent money.
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Old August 2nd, 2008, 05:39 PM   #1056
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I just love it...





Photos taken yesterday afternoon...
I'm a fellow Hungarian! Awesome bridge Seems that Europeans are good at building these viaducts.

Is your speed limits 110km/h? It's also 110 here in Australia on the freeways.
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Old August 2nd, 2008, 05:54 PM   #1057
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I'm a fellow Hungarian! Awesome bridge Seems that Europeans are good at building these viaducts.

Is your speed limits 110km/h? It's also 110 here in Australia on the freeways.
Yeah, we are really good.
Having no mountains is not an obstacle.
we could build a huge viaduct even to the "Puszta" (GREAT Plains of Hungary)

no, speed limit is 130 on motorways
110 is only on the viaduct...
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Old August 2nd, 2008, 06:02 PM   #1058
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No,not really. My district wasnt asked wether we wanted M0 100m away from the commies or not a few years ago,while others have the choice to ask for huge and expensive structures...I dont mind them having this viaduct,but then they shouldnt rant ever again about wrongly spent money.
you're talking about the M3-2 section of M0, aren't you?

well, I think that 100m preferably is 200-250m...
so there was nothing to protest against...

despite this I can clearly remember a significant protest.
the local major said about the contruction: "it looks like the nubian desert"...
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here is a slovenian example (Hwy Ljubljana-Zagreb) of wrongly spent money, because of local community;
instead of upgrading a 2-lane H1 "expressway" in the middle of the valley,
they chose to build 14km variant on the slope of the hills

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you're talking about the M3-2 section of M0, aren't you?

well, I think that 100m preferably is 200-250m...
so there was nothing to protest against...

despite this I can clearly remember a significant protest.
the local major said about the contruction: "it looks like the nubian desert"...
Well,compare it to the trenches of the eastern section or the Köröshegy viaduct...
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