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Old November 3rd, 2008, 02:58 PM   #1401
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Yeah, I think bypasses were enough on the Hungarian section North of Vác. The has to be built anyway to Esztergom, a new bridge is planned anyway so it would be reasonable to build the Slovakian expressway there.
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...and the terrain is much more flat in the garam valley...
What is garam?
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Old November 3rd, 2008, 03:08 PM   #1402
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hron
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Old November 4th, 2008, 12:44 AM   #1403
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M70

Today I thoroughly examined the M70.

Here we go... From Slovenia into Hungary; the best border crossing there can be.










Forgive my worsening photographic skills behind the wheel.


Geesh.






























No Matrica - no autópálya.


Going back home.




Some halfway between Budapest and Ljubljana.


I hope the photos weren't too bad. The M70 is quite fine for the amount of traffic, it just irritated me that there's speed limit of just 80 km/h (instead of 110) every time those 4-lane sections start and end. I didn't get that.
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Old November 4th, 2008, 09:19 AM   #1404
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Nice pictures Verso!

I think they're a bit blurred because it's almost wintertime. Pics tend to get blurred then because there's less light and you're taking them from a moving object. I stopped taking pics for this year.
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Old November 4th, 2008, 01:14 PM   #1405
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Great pics, Verso! You had some beautiful weather out there. Over here it's very foggy and I can barely see a hundred metres
Indeed the best border crossing there is. No border station or whatsoever
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Old November 4th, 2008, 02:00 PM   #1406
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nice crossing, really, but I would place a gantry for the border crossing signs...

it would be more ephasized this way...
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Old November 4th, 2008, 03:07 PM   #1407
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How strict are border controls at the Romanian borders? What are typical waiting times?
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Old November 4th, 2008, 03:11 PM   #1408
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I think it's no more then 5 minutes for cars. It's an EU border now, so it shouldn't be any stricter than e.g. the German-Polish border (before last winter).
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Old November 4th, 2008, 03:11 PM   #1409
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nice crossing, really, but I would place a gantry for the border crossing signs...

it would be more ephasized this way...
I agree, it would look even better, more emphasized. Or at least they could put the country signs on both sides of the motorway (right and left). On my way back I was overtaking many trucks, so I didn't even notice when I entered Slovenia. Otherwise it was a really beautiful weather, but I forgot to use zoom; that way signs aren't moving so fast, b/c you take pics of them from afar, so they turn out more clear (it's also true that there's less light this time of the year, but the Slovenian A5 just opened, so what can I do, hehe). Oh, one more thing that irritated me by the M70 is curbstone along it sometimes. I felt a bit claustrophobic, especially while taking pics. I don't know why they need it.
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Old November 4th, 2008, 03:31 PM   #1410
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How strict are border controls at the Romanian borders? What are typical waiting times?
typical waiting times are 5-10 minutes.before 2007 it took almost an hour to pass the border because there were 2 border controls(romanian+hungarian) and u had to show ur passport and the passport was electonically verified by each one of them.now with id's it's much easier..now, only in summer passing through the border can take 15-20 min, maximum 30.
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Old November 4th, 2008, 03:55 PM   #1411
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Great pics, great motorway, and great border crossing. Only it seems still strange for me why the Hungarian name for Zagreb is still put on the signs (only "Zagreb" with the HR-code would be more than enough, I think).
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Old November 4th, 2008, 04:25 PM   #1412
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Well, that's how some countries do it. We also put "Budimpešta" beside "Budapest".
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Old November 4th, 2008, 04:54 PM   #1413
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I know And I also know the strange Slovene signs towards Rijeka/Reka and Celovec/Klagenfurt and Beljak/Villach. In my opinion a bit (better: very much) exeggerated since (I hope..) everyone travelling in Slovenia should know where Villach, Klagenfurt or Rijeka is. It doesn't make the sings much clearer, on the contrary.


I suppose the sign Bécs-Wien at the Austrian border still exitst?
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Old November 4th, 2008, 05:00 PM   #1414
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The problem is that while not many ethnic Slovenes live in Rijeka, there's a quite big Slovenian minority in Trieste, and the Austrian Carinthia has historically been Slovenian, and still many Slovenes live there, so it's not our problem that Trieste isn't bilingual, although it should be. But if we only wrote "Trst" beside "Trieste", but not "Reka" beside "Rijeka", it would look as if we have some territorial pretensions for Italy, so that way we can avoid the confusion. But we should drop "Pulj" for Pula, b/c no one here uses it, and there's not many Slovenes living there anyway.

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hehe, Pulj/Pula/Pola story for me in SLO the strangest was Gradec/Graz

i like original names in each case. i could got confused this summer inport of Ancona because they have only italitan signs whish say Zara, so if you don't know that Zara is Zadar, you could get confused
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Old November 4th, 2008, 06:39 PM   #1416
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for me in SLO the strangest was Gradec/Graz
I know, even we say Graz (Grac), not b/c of the language, but b/c it's easier to pronounce (we even say Slovenj Graz (slovenj grac), which is in Slovenia ). But OTOH "Gradec" is actually more logical, b/c the word "Graz" derives from Slovenian "Gradec" (whole Austria used to be Slovenian a few hundred years back ), which means small castle.
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Those translations are in my opinion the worst in European signage in general. They should only sign the actual name of a certain city. No German or Dutch traveller knows what the Slovenian name for Austrian on Hungarian cities would be, you also can't expect them to know that. In this day and age of open borders, unlimited travel, this shouldn't exist anymore.
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It's also the other way around. I'm glad they don't sign "Pressburg" in Austria instead of Bratislava, the average western European doesn't know what Pressburg means.
It can be quite funny what a city means in another language. In Germany, there is a town called "Opladen", which is Dutch for charging. And one that has already been mentioned often in the H&A section: "Aars" in Denmark.
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Those translations are in my opinion the worst in European signage in general. They should only sign the actual name of a certain city. No German or Dutch traveller knows what the Slovenian name for Austrian on Hungarian cities would be, you also can't expect them to know that. In this day and age of open borders, unlimited travel, this shouldn't exist anymore.
Yes you ´re right, but this is more a political issue than geografic, so it will not change in the near future.
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It's also the other way around. I'm glad they don't sign "Pressburg" in Austria instead of Bratislava, the average western European doesn't know what Pressburg means.
don't mention it at hungarian thread
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