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Old December 15th, 2008, 02:56 PM   #1521
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I want to visit Hungary this summer. How is the knowledge of foreign languages (German/English?) in Hungary. Hungarian is just like Chinese to me.
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Old December 15th, 2008, 03:09 PM   #1522
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M300, interesting. It the M3 to Berehova (UA) really necessary? It doesn't look like an important area in Ukraine.
I think M300 is a so future plan that its not even present on the development company's site,it is only present in the country's masterplan.

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Here's the plan:

(http://www.vati.hu/main.php?folderID=2017)

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I want to visit Hungary this summer. How is the knowledge of foreign languages (German/English?) in Hungary. Hungarian is just like Chinese to me.
English among younger people,german among young/middle aged,russian among middle aged/old is the most probable.
BTW,this summer is long over
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Old December 15th, 2008, 04:49 PM   #1523
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I want to visit Hungary this summer. How is the knowledge of foreign languages (German/English?) in Hungary. Hungarian is just like Chinese to me.
I don't think you'll have problems in Budapest. However in cities like Szeged, for example, it's a bit harder to find English speakers. In a major hypermarket, they had to find someone who spoke some broken Romanian for us - even though we were asking in English.

That's my experience, maybe I just had some bad luck. Though I think your knowledge of German will also come in handy, like RawLee said.
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Old December 15th, 2008, 04:50 PM   #1524
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It already has a constructor,so its construction will start soon,if havent already.
Yeah I know, but I use M0 regularly,and from the motorway, I haven't even seen signs of ground works going on...
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Old December 15th, 2008, 05:28 PM   #1525
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M3 currently ends at Nyíregyháza. Will it be extended to Ukraine (Uzhorod) or Romania (Satu Mare?)
The next section will be the Nyíregyháza-Mátészalka highway, until Mátészalka (M49-M3 junction) there will be only a motorway (2*1 lane) to Vásárosnamény. This will be a PPP project.
The EU funds the M49 motorway between Mátészalka and Csenger.
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Old December 15th, 2008, 05:34 PM   #1526
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M300, interesting. It the M3 to Berehova (UA) really necessary? It doesn't look like an important area in Ukraine.
It's more like M300 is unnecessary here. Berehove is just on the way to Mukacheve and Lviv, whereas Uzhhorod is more like in a cul-de-sac.
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Old December 15th, 2008, 05:35 PM   #1527
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Yeah, maybe funny, but really impressive, if you take into account how "big" those hills are. I think it's a good decision, but was it connected with any problems or disputes saying that this is a too much expensive solution? What about higher bridges and cut&covers? Or is this some environmental issue?
nope. this is a "tunneling issue"
(this is nice job and the beggining of a beautiful frendship between a government and a tunneling firm... )
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Old December 15th, 2008, 05:38 PM   #1528
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Which new motorwaysections will be completed until June 2009?
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Old December 15th, 2008, 05:41 PM   #1529
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M3 currently ends at Nyíregyháza. Will it be extended to Ukraine (Uzhorod) or Romania (Satu Mare?)
I hope not yet....
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Old December 15th, 2008, 05:44 PM   #1530
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Which new motorwaysections will be completed until June 2009?
Maybe Márkó bypass on future M8. Its possible M2 will be widened to 2x2 by 2009, minor part of M86(Vát bypass),and maybe a part of M43.

Though I dont know how accurate is this,its better than nothing:

(from roads.extra.hu)
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Old December 15th, 2008, 06:18 PM   #1531
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nope. this is a "tunneling issue"
(this is nice job and the beggining of a beautiful frendship between a government and a tunneling firm... )
Nice I see we have something in common in this "business" as well

Thank for clear answer
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Old December 15th, 2008, 10:04 PM   #1532
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A bit earlier aerial photo of the u/c tunnels of M6...

Cut&covers would be more than enough (and also much cheaper) solution, at least for first and third tunnel. Where is that exactly?

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Old December 15th, 2008, 10:35 PM   #1533
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Cut&covers would be more than enough (and also much cheaper) solution, at least for first and third tunnel. Where is that exactly?
Somewhere here:
http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=4....2211&t=h&z=12

EDIT: you can see here better why they are needed,and why the area cant be bypassed:

http://www.mapy.cz/#[email protected][email protected][email protected]=ZRPf

As I said,ground is not the most stable here. Its of this material:

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Old December 15th, 2008, 10:37 PM   #1534
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Marl... that doesn't seem to solid.
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Old December 15th, 2008, 10:40 PM   #1535
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That's what we have in Southern-Limburg, right?
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Old December 15th, 2008, 10:40 PM   #1536
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Actually the M6 will go near the small villages of Mórágy and Véménd, bypassing them from the East. The section with tunnels is between these 2 villages. You can check it out on the map posted by RawLee.
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Old December 15th, 2008, 10:41 PM   #1537
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I noticed road 4 got a lot of bypasses. Seems like quite a fast route between Budapest and eastern Hungary.
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Marl... that doesn't seem to solid.
It isnt. You can crumb it with your hand.
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Old December 15th, 2008, 10:46 PM   #1539
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I noticed road 4 got a lot of bypasses. Seems like quite a fast route between Budapest and eastern Hungary.
Not really. Most of it is 2x1. Its still maybe an hour longer to Debrecen than via M3-M35,if not more.
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Old December 15th, 2008, 10:50 PM   #1540
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The M6


Another map and more

The Main Road 4 isn't a fast one. Very-very busy.
A new road will be built between Üllő and Albertirsa (2*2 lane), the exiting bypass will be fully upgraded between Albertirsa and Abony (maybe the Abony bypass also).
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