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Old July 11th, 2013, 04:09 PM   #221
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Well, there were tracks all the way to the CBD until two years ago when they closed down the old railway station. Now they suddenly realised they might to a big dig and build a new central station.

The old station: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tanjong...ailway_station
Right now we are speculating if the line will run from JB city center or Nusajaya. If its the latter, which makes more long-term sense considering the planned developments in the area, the line will most likely enter Singapore from the West through Tuas. Chances are the whole thing will be underground and that's a pity.
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Old July 11th, 2013, 04:43 PM   #222
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Has the land all been developed along the all corridor?
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Old July 11th, 2013, 09:01 PM   #223
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They actually wanted a maglev?!
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Old July 11th, 2013, 09:29 PM   #224
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They actually wanted a maglev?!
I could imagine Singapore wanting maglev, because in the case if there were a Malaysian Invasion (c) they could just unplug the track and there could be no super speed troop movements
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Old July 12th, 2013, 10:06 AM   #225
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Has the land all been developed along the all corridor?
No not at all. Even the former mainline part are now reserved for "green corridor".
Even the former marshaling yard is still empty. I don't know what the future hold for this part?
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Old July 15th, 2013, 09:24 AM   #226
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KL-S'pore high-speed rail link to get SPAD boost
By Sharen KaurPublished: 2013/07/15
http://www.btimes.com.my/Current_New...#ixzz2ZHUsACjH



2020 COMPLETION TARGET: Feasibility study in final stage of preparation, says its CEO

THE Land Public Transport Commission (SPAD) will speed up the process of kick-starting the multi-billion ringgit high-speed rail (HSR) link between Kuala Lumpur and Singapore and ensure it is operational by 2020.

Its chief executive officer Mohd Nur Ismal Mohamed Kamal said the feasibility study is in its final stage of preparation.

SPAD has been carrying out a study on the HSR project since early last year.

The study includes a detailed assessment on the technical and engineering aspects, cost, financial and operations, and benefits of the project.

The project was agreed in principle between Malaysia and Singapore in February this year.

Business Times has reported, quoting reliable government sources, that the rail link is expected to cost around RM40 billion. This includes RM10 billion to buy high-speed bullet trains.

For Malaysia, the HSR project is important to support growth in Iskandar Malaysia in Johor.

Investor interest in Iskandar Malaysia is at an all-time high with the completion of key catalytic projects last year and the signing of a new agreement between Malaysia and Singapore this year.

Singapore is one of the largest investors and leading contributors to Iskandar Malaysia.

The HSR project will also complement another rail project - the Rapid Transit System Link - that will link Johor Baru to Singapore's Thomson Line, which is set to be ready by 2019.

Singapore, however, has yet to give its full feedback on the HSR link to the government.

Business Times reported last week that Malaysia may call for an international open tender for the HSR link by the end of this year, indicating that the 400km project is viable.

There will be mandatory requirements in the tender procurement that companies must meet before they can make a bid.

These include having a few years of expertise in running high-speed trains and operating railway lines, the transfer of technology, the type of systems used and costs.

However, Mohd Nur Ismal said that the tender call will commence once the relevant agreements with Singapore are in place.

"We are working very hard to ensure that the Kuala Lumpur-Singapore railway link is operational by 2020.

"The government will identify the best mechanism for project tender and according to existing procedures and guidelines," he said.
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Old July 26th, 2013, 07:33 AM   #227
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Looks as if PM Abe has made a pitch during his stay.

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Abe offers Malaysia high-speed rail technology

PUTRAJAYA, Malaysia —

Japan Thursday offered Malaysia technology to build a multi-million-dollar high-speed railway and other infrastructure, as its Prime Minister Shinzo Abe began a regional tour.

Abe’s visit to Malaysia, Singapore and the Philippines is the latest of several trips he has made with business leaders since coming to power in December, aimed at drumming up infrastructure deals.

The 58-year-old premier hopes to strengthen ties with Southeast Asian countries, a region enjoying strong economic growth and a potential vibrant marketplace for Japanese products and investment.

“Malaysia and Japan agree to cooperate in high technology with Japan providing the technology in the construction of high-speed rail, water and waste treatment,” Abe told reporters at a press conference with his Malaysian counterpart Najib Razak.....

More here.
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Old July 28th, 2013, 12:58 PM   #228
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S'pore-KL high-speed rail 'a legacy for future'
Benefits extend not just to today's society but later generations as well: Expert
Published on Jul 27, 2013
http://www.straitstimes.com/the-big-...uture-20130727



High-speed rail can be transformational, with an ability to change and
enhance economies within a region, says rail infrastructure expert Colin Stewart. -- PHOTO: ARUP


By Christopher Tan Senior Transport Correspondent

THE proposed high-speed rail line linking Singapore and Kuala Lumpur should not be seen as a project benefiting only the present generation but many generations to come, says a leading rail infrastructure expert.

Mr Colin Stewart, global rail leader at international engineering consultancy Arup, said: "You are building something that is a legacy for the future. It would be here for at least 100 years.

"We tend to think in terms of very short payback periods. There are many other things we do as countries and cities that are not so easily quantifiable in terms of payback. For instance, we build roads, even to remote parts, without thinking much about payback. Or street lighting."

Earlier this year in February, Singapore and Malaysia announced plans for the rail link, which is expected to offer a 90-minute commute between the Republic and Kuala Lumpur by 2020.
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Old July 29th, 2013, 03:23 AM   #229
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I still think Japanese companies have the edge when it comes to building the trainset for the Singapore-Kuala Lumpur-Penang line. With two good reasons:

1. Japanese-built trainsets have proved themselves operating in higher-temperature/high humidity conditions of during the summer months of Japan and Taiwan, climatic conditions similar to that the line will experience between Penang and Singapore.

2. It'll be easier to ship completed trainsets from Kawasaki Heavy Industries, Hitachi and J-TREC in Japan to Singapore and Malaysia.
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Old July 29th, 2013, 08:30 AM   #230
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I think your point 2) is a bit more debatable. Much of the newer rolling stock for the Singapore MRT was built by Alstom wasn't it?
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Old July 29th, 2013, 01:47 PM   #231
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I think your point 2) is a bit more debatable. Much of the newer rolling stock for the Singapore MRT was built by Alstom wasn't it?
Indeed. In fact, the incoming "Bombardier", "Alstom" and "Kawasaki" subway stock will come from China. Seeing as Siemens also has a plant in China, it's a moot point.
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Old July 29th, 2013, 05:39 PM   #232
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Indeed. In fact, the incoming "Bombardier", "Alstom" and "Kawasaki" subway stock will come from China. Seeing as Siemens also has a plant in China, it's a moot point.
All those are joint ventures with PRC companies and not a sole subsidiary in which they will have a large legal issue to work out. I also believe since Malaysia will be footing the majority of the construction, they will have a big say to who will be the winner.
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Old July 30th, 2013, 10:45 AM   #233
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KL-Singapore rail tender open to international bidders
By Roziana Hamsawi Published: 2013/07/30
http://www.btimes.com.my/Current_New...#ixzz2ahXohvpL

HIGH-SPEED LINK: Malaysian and Singaporean governments deciding on modality and procedure

Prime Minister Datuk Seri Najib Razak yesterday confirmed that the tender for the high-speed rail (HSR) link between Kuala Lumpur and Singapore will be opened to international bidders.

He said the Malaysian and Singaporean governments are in the process of deciding on the modality, way forward and procedure for execution.

“We expect this to be a very transparent, open bidding system in which companies from all over the world are free to participate,” he said at a joint press conference with his French counterpart Jean-Marc Ayrault, here, yesterday.

On the rail industry in Malaysia, Najib said Malaysia is embarking on extensive rail development, such as the multi-billion Klang Valley mass rapid transit project and the HSR project, which is targeted for completion by 2020.

The rail link is expected to cost around RM40 billion, including RM10 billion to buy high-speed bullet trains.

Earlier, Najib and Ayrault witnessed the signing of a memorandum of understanding (MoU) between Malaysian Industry-Government
Group for High Technology (MIGHT) and Thales, a global technology leader for aerospace and transportation markets, for the development of the country’s rail industry.

With more than RM160 billion government investment expected in the industry until 2020, the MoU will address human capital competency issues.

In a statement yesterday, MIGHT said the MoU is aimed at supporting the government’s commitment to the development of Malaysia’s public transport system via the Rail Centre of
Excellence (RCOE).

It said Thales is one of the first original equipment manufacturers (OEM) that will contribute to the development of the RCOE.

“MIGHT is taking the lead to undertake the implementation of the RCOE by way of engaging rail entities for the purpose,” it said.

Other content providers for RCOE are Spanish Railways Foundation for the main line and high speed rail, and Metro Madrid for the urban rail. The MoUs with these entities are planned for September during the launch of the National Rail Industry Development Roadmap.

RCOE will also house and integrate activities such as research and development, small and medium enterprises and OEM production facilities.

Meanwhile, Thales senior executive vice-president Pascale Sourisse said the company is delighted to support the industrial initiative in Malaysia.
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UPDATE: Report on high speed rail link finalised
Published: 2013/08/03
http://www.btimes.com.my/Current_New...#ixzz2bYj1v9Dj

SINGAPORE: Malaysia has finalised its full report on the
proposed high-speed rail link between Kuala Lumpur and Singapore.

Local television Channel NewsAsia reported Mohd Nur Ismal Mohamed Kamal, chief executive officer of the Malaysia Land Public Transport Commission, as saying that the two sides will meet after the Aidil Fitri celebrations at the end of the month.

He said: "The base line alignment and all that is done. But of course, minor changes can still happen. We are just starting the process of engagement and discussion with the Singapore side, with the joint ministerial committee meeting up after Hari Raya."

Speaking exclusively to Channel NewsAsia, Nur Ismal said details of the project, including the modality and funding, will be made public after discussions with Singapore officials.


Estimated to cost US$10 billion, the high-speed rail link is expected to be completed by 2020.

It is set to cut travel time between both cities to 90 minutes and has attracted keen interest from various international companies, including those from China, Japan, France and Spain.

Nur Ismail said industries can expect competitive bidding once open tenders begin next year.

"There's enough room for everyone. The key thing is that both countries will benefit, the conglomerates benefit, the key development along the alignment.

We're looking forward to the economic development side of it, the social aspect, the broader macroeconomic growth that will happen because of the link being there," he added.-- Bernama
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Is it likely to run into the main business district or just into northern part of singapore requiring passengers totransfer to the mrt?
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I wonder: with the impending closure of Tanjong Pagar station, where will HSR trains stop in Singapore should the proposed line be built? It doesn't seem to make much sense for trains to just stop in Woodlands and then connect by bus or MRT.
I believe a place that is at present sparsely developed would be the ideal place to build a new station which can provide growth to the immediate area.
Within ten years it will become a new center of commerce with very little noise pollution unlike airports.
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Old August 7th, 2013, 06:17 PM   #238
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I believe a place that is at present sparsely developed would be the ideal place to build a new station which can provide growth to the immediate area.
Within ten years it will become a new center of commerce with very little noise pollution unlike airports.
I strongly believe that in case of Singapore, building the HSR terminal in Woodlands would make as much sense as building an city-air terminal in Tanah Merah (2 stops away from the Changi airport).

Half the rationale behind the HSR is to cut the city-to-city travel time. And that would be effectively defeated by forcing the potential business travelers to rot away in the ultra-packed MRT carriage on the way north to catch the train. I really, really hope Singapore side realizes that.

Regarding possible sites for the HSR station in the CBD here, I'm personally speculating Marina Bay (still largely empty), Marina Center, Outram Park, Harborfront and Kallang. An actual redevelopment of the Tanjong Pagar Railway Station, or the old KTM depot land is a remote possibility but firstly, the North-East Line's NE2 station would have to be developed. Provisions for it already exists but as to the actual realization - we'll see in due time.
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I strongly believe that in case of Singapore, building the HSR terminal in Woodlands would make as much sense as building an city-air terminal in Tanah Merah (2 stops away from the Changi airport).

Half the rationale behind the HSR is to cut the city-to-city travel time. And that would be effectively defeated by forcing the potential business travelers to rot away in the ultra-packed MRT carriage on the way north to catch the train. I really, really hope Singapore side realizes that.

Regarding possible sites for the HSR station in the CBD here, I'm personally speculating Marina Bay (still largely empty), Marina Center, Outram Park, Harborfront and Kallang. An actual redevelopment of the Tanjong Pagar Railway Station, or the old KTM depot land is a remote possibility but firstly, the North-East Line's NE2 station would have to be developed. Provisions for it already exists but as to the actual realization - we'll see in due time.
It doesn't really matter where Singapore puts the HSR train terminal. The overall journey time from KL to Singapore is going to be way faster than an airplane.

And the journey time difference between Woodlands or Marina Bay is only 15minutes because travellers will have to interchange on the MRT to their final destination anyway.

And have the MRT trains been extended from 6 to 8 cars yet?
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It doesn't really matter where Singapore puts the HSR train terminal. The overall journey time from KL to Singapore is going to be way faster than an airplane.

And the journey time difference between Woodlands or Marina Bay is only 15minutes because travellers will have to interchange on the MRT to their final destination anyway.

And have the MRT trains been extended from 6 to 8 cars yet?
They'll never be extended and the trip takes 35-40 minutes at best. Trains are always packed. Not the best incentive to use the HSR.
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