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Old May 5th, 2015, 09:13 AM   #321
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Straits Times also hinted at a 2022-2023 completion.

http://www.straitstimes.com/news/sin...-east-20150505

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The Singapore terminus for the high-speed rail link between Singapore and Kuala Lumpur will be in Jurong East in the Jurong Lake District. -- PHOTO: ST FILE
BY RACHEL CHANG

SINGAPORE - The terminal in Singapore for the high speed rail link to Kuala Lumpur will be in Jurong East.

Announcing this on Tuesday, Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong said that this would dovetail with Singapore's overall plans to transform the area into its second central business district.

"It will change the face of Jurong and create opportunities for our people and businesses," he said, describing the proposed link as a "game-changer" for both countries.

But he said at a joint press conference with Malaysia Prime Minister Najib Razak that the original target completion date for the link of 2020 is not really realistic".


"It's a very ambitious project and a challenging one to carry out, with many complicated parts to structure properly," he said.

"The original timeline is not really realistic. We have to take a bit more time to do it well, but to do it without delay."

The leaders, speaking at the end of their annual Retreat, re-affirmed both countries' full commitment to the success of the project, which will cut travel time between Singapore and KL to 90 minutes.

PM Najib said that the high-speed rail link is "the most important project" between the two countries, which mark the 50th anniversary of bilateral ties this year.

He noted that the design process of the new rail link will likely take one year, the tender process another year, and construction itself about five years.

A new deadline for the completion of the link should be announced at the end of this year, after the full, official agreement between both sides on the link is done, Mr Lee and Mr Najib said.

They noted that agreement has already been reached on several details of the link, such as the frequency bands to be reserved for operations, dual co-location of Customs, Immigration and Quarantine configuration, and that the depot and stabling facilities for the rail link will be located in Malaysia.

But PM Lee noted that major decisions have yet to be made, such as on "where the funding is going to come from, how is equity going to be divided between the two parties, and structuring issues like does Singapore build its part and Malaysia build its part and we meet in the middle?"

But he emphasised that the two governments are confident that the project will be completed, with time.

Elaborating on why Jurong East was chosen over the two other options of the city centre or Tuas, PM Lee said that the dense nature of the city centre would make the required construction works difficult, while there are too few businesses located in Tuas.

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Old May 6th, 2015, 02:04 AM   #322
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News from mypaper on the project.

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Published on May 06, 2015
RACHEL CHANG


THE terminus for the high-speed rail link between Singapore and Kuala Lumpur will be sited in Jurong East, a move that is in line with plans for the area to be Singapore's second central business district.

But the ambitious link, billed by the leaders of both countries as a "game-changer," will not be completed by the original target of 2020.

The new target date will be announced after both sides have agreed on all major issues of the project. The deadline for this agreement is the end of this year.

Speaking to reporters after their annual retreat yesterday, Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong and his counterpart, Najib Razak, said the 2020 date was unrealistic owing to the complexity of the 350km route.

But both pledged their full commitment to realising the link, calling it the most important project on the current bilateral agenda.

First conceived at their 2013 retreat, the high-speed link will cut travel time between Singapore and KL to 90 minutes.

The delay, they said, would not be a major one. Mr Najib estimated the design process would take a year, the tender process another year and then five years to build the link.

"We're confident it will come true," said PM Lee.

He also said the terminus would "change the face" of Jurong, creating opportunities for businesses and citizens.

In response to reporters' questions, PM Lee explained why Jurong East was chosen over the city centre and Tuas.

While the city centre would be the most convenient for commuters, there is little space left for such an ambitious construction project, he said. While construction works would be the easiest in Tuas, there are few businesses there, he added.

The Government has ambitious plans for the Jurong Lake District and the terminus dovetails with them, PM Lee said.

Analysts said the news would boost property values and interest in the Jurong Gateway area, with some predicting that multinational companies would relocate their offices there.

Malaysia had previously said its terminus would be sited in the Bandar Malaysia project, 3km from KL's financial district.

The leaders disclosed that agreement on some issues have been reached, one of them being that the depot and stabling facilities would be hosted by Malaysia.

But PM Lee listed some major questions yet to be answered:

"How is the line going to be designed? Where is the funding going to come from? How is the debt and equity going to be divided between the two parties?"

It must also be decided if each country builds its own part of the line and they join in the middle, or if one company builds the entire line.

PM Lee noted that there are global models, like the cross-border Eurostar between Paris and London.

"So I don't see them as insoluble problems. We're getting there. We just need a bit more time to work everything out."

The famous camaraderie between the two men - credited with facilitating a breakthrough on thorny bilateral issues - was on display again at their sixth leaders' retreat, which marks the 50th anniversary of diplomatic ties between the two nations.

The duo also discussed a wide range of issues including Iskandar Malaysia, congestion on the Causeway and the building of the Johor River Barrage to ensure the water supply from the Johor River to Singapore.

"All the fundamentals are strong between our two countries," said Mr Najib.

On his Facebook page later yesterday, PM Lee wrote: "Our bilateral ties are warm and we are working well together. Long may this continue."

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Old May 6th, 2015, 05:46 AM   #323
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Old May 6th, 2015, 09:43 AM   #324
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Land occupied by golf site likely terminus site: Analysts
Adrian Lim | The Straits Times | Wednesday, May 06, 2015

The site of Singapore's high- speed rail (HSR) terminus could be in the south-eastern region of the Jurong Lake District, experts said.
They pointed to a 1.02 million sq ft plot of land - sandwiched between Jurong Town Hall Road and the Ayer Rajah Expressway (AYE) - as a likely location for the upcoming terminus.

Besides being designated as a reserve site in future land development plans, there is also a group of land parcels adjacent to it which has been set aside for hotels.

"To support this hotel cluster, you need something which can bring huge numbers of people into Singapore, such as a HSR," said Ms Christine Li, research director at Cushman & Wakefield, a real estate consultancy.

Yesterday, Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong revealed that the Singapore terminus for the HSR link to Kuala Lumpur will be in the Jurong Lake District in Jurong East.

This will dovetail with plans to develop the area into a second central business district, he said.

Experts said the land plot along Jurong Town Hall Road is just outside Jurong Gateway, a 70ha commercial hub, and also close to the Jurong East bus and train interchange, which serves two MRT lines.

The land plot is currently occupied by JTC's iHub building and the Jurong Country Club golf course.

ational University of Singapore transport researcher Lee Der-Horng said that more land south of the Jurong Lake District could be made available, if proposed plans to realign a stretch of the AYE between Yuan Ching Road and Jurong Town Hall Road materialise.

Dr Lee said: "A large portion of Jurong East is occupied by housing, so we don't really have much available land." Residents in Jurong East, while looking forward to having the HSR terminus in their backyard, expressed concern about the increase in human and vehicular traffic to the area.

"The capacity of the MRT trains and the interchanges has to be increased," said Mr Colin Seow, 25, who just graduated from university.

SIM University's urban transport management expert Park Byung Joon said two more MRT lines being planned - the Cross Island Line and the Jurong Region Line - will help to increase the transport capacity in the area.

On the bright side, some residents are also looking at new travel options.

"It's a big plus point if I can travel to KL in 90 minutes for a weekend trip," said Ms Allvina Lee, 37, who works in purchasing.

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Old May 6th, 2015, 01:49 PM   #325
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a quick search on google maps and I found the Taiwan High Speed Rail station.

A quick measurement of the station reveal that the width is 51m. length is 426m. if rounded up, it's around 450m by 55m.

the distance from Gateway Link to Jurong East Street 12 is around 95m. we can fit the high speed railway station next to Jurong East MRT Station. however, there is definitely no space for overrun, but do we really need an overrun when we have so many tracks?

I guess the High Speed Rail station will be located next to Jurong East MRT Station, or slightly south from it, along Gateway Road next to the JTC Summit building.
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Old May 7th, 2015, 08:39 AM   #326
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Old May 11th, 2015, 10:08 AM   #328
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News from CNA. Looks like it is more or less confirmed. Full story in the source link below.

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The Jurong Country Club will be acquired in November 2016, and the site will be comprehensively redeveloped for new mixed-use developments and community facilities, together with the High-Speed Rail terminus.

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Old May 11th, 2015, 07:16 PM   #329
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If possible, the station should be placed at Town Hall Link beside, I believe, the existing science centre. They can either replace the road with an access or beside
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What a disaster putting the station in jurong who will catch it then transfer to the mrt to get to the cbd. Its a massive time penalty as well as a change in comfort. Dont see it being very sucessful. In europe most of the hsr lines traverse right into the centre of the city.
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Well, it truly depends. The Singapore government decided to push for Jurong to be the 2nd CBD. Also, there could be plans to have 2 new mrt lines interchange with the terminal.
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Old May 12th, 2015, 04:46 AM   #332
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Well, it truly depends. The Singapore government decided to push for Jurong to be the 2nd CBD. Also, there could be plans to have 2 new mrt lines interchange with the terminal.
It was also quoted in Straits time that there might be an Airport Express link that is being looked into for faster access to Changi Airport.
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Well, it truly depends. The Singapore government decided to push for Jurong to be the 2nd CBD. Also, there could be plans to have 2 new mrt lines interchange with the terminal.
Where did you get this map along with the information about 2 new MRT stations [Jurong town hall station & Jurong station ] to allow better connection between Singapore HST terminus and Jurong East MRT station?
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I think it is best you ask y2koh. That is an unofficial map done by y2koh. I think he has some info but I am not too sure myself.
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That's really an interesting map. Jurong Country Club (Lease Ends 2035). If SG waits until 2035, the land is free.
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Where did you get this map along with the information about 2 new MRT stations [Jurong town hall station & Jurong station ] to allow better connection between Singapore HST terminus and Jurong East MRT station?
That's a custom map using Photoshop (I think) and Onemap.

As for the new MRT Stations, that's speculation for either CIL or JRL.
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Wouldn't it be amazing if they linked SG to HK by HSR? The entire line would essentially be funded by Chinese and be built by slaves from Islamic South Asian countries.

I support this, but I would prefer a maglev line.
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Singapore to KL by HSR. Any idea how much a ticket would cost?
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Wouldn't it be amazing if they linked SG to HK by HSR? The entire line would essentially be funded by Chinese and be built by slaves from Islamic South Asian countries.

I support this, but I would prefer a maglev line.
HK to SG is very possible and SG to everywhere else.

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This strengthens my belief that the NSL should be extended from Jurong East through the future Keppel area CBD to the current CBD.
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