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Old June 22nd, 2015, 10:42 AM   #361
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In other words link the airport directly to the Pan Asia HSR? Maybe they might consider extending the system in due time but how much more money would be added to the existing budget? Cost/benefit relationship?
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Old June 22nd, 2015, 04:46 PM   #362
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By using codesharing with airlines they will be able to eliminate many Singapore-Malaysia flights as people can transfer onto the train instead of onto regional aircraft.

This will free up airspace for other flights.
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Old June 22nd, 2015, 05:27 PM   #363
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The option must have been considered already?

Perhaps the will rely on the MTR system to act as a link between the airport and the HSR Terminus?
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Old June 22nd, 2015, 06:08 PM   #364
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Jurons east mighty be a good option as there is ample land to build up the new infrastructure model. Morever, more compagnies are living towards the west side. Buona Vista, chinese gardens, the universities, etc etc
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Old June 23rd, 2015, 04:37 PM   #365
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Are there any examples in the world where a new hsr system has its main train station nearly 20 km from the cbd. The whole point to make hsr competitive with airlines is that the station needs to be close to the cbd not 20km from the cbd.
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Old June 23rd, 2015, 04:53 PM   #366
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Both termini are intended to be catalysts for redevelopment. Jurong East as Singapore's second CBD, Bandar Malaysia as part of an expanded CBD.
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Old June 23rd, 2015, 05:34 PM   #367
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Are there any examples in the world where a new hsr system has its main train station nearly 20 km from the cbd. The whole point to make hsr competitive with airlines is that the station needs to be close to the cbd not 20km from the cbd.
I believe there's not , but Singapore just love to be the groundbreaker for such a thing...
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Old June 23rd, 2015, 09:47 PM   #368
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Are there any examples in the world where a new hsr system has its main train station nearly 20 km from the cbd. The whole point to make hsr competitive with airlines is that the station needs to be close to the cbd not 20km from the cbd.
There are plenty of examples of HSR Terminus being located away from the CBD.

I don't have to go very far to find an example either the Kunming HSR terminus is 32 kms from the city center ditto for a lot of other cities in China.

Off the top of my head the HK HSR terminus is downtown a lot of others in other cities are not.
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Are there any examples in the world where a new hsr system has its main train station nearly 20 km from the cbd. The whole point to make hsr competitive with airlines is that the station needs to be close to the cbd not 20km from the cbd.
It's essential the HSR Terminus is linked to the Metro it need not be in the CBD .

Not all traffic is from the CBD to the Terminus or vice versa unless they must pass through the CBD to get to their destination.
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Old June 24th, 2015, 03:07 AM   #370
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Shin-Osaka the main station for Osaka for the Tokaido Shinkansen is not in Osaka CBD.
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Old June 24th, 2015, 01:45 PM   #371
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Well, for a big country or big city. Maybe the main HSR terminal does not need to be in CBD. As the population is more spread out and not everyone need to be in CBD to travel. But Singapore is too small, so I'm not sure they really need to do that. Unless there is a great potential in Jurong East? But waiting for another 100 years to benefit from it might not be a good choice.
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We needn't worry about the station's location, chaps.

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Singapore's High Speed Rail terminus will be located at Jurong East
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05 May 2015 13:42
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Jurong East was chosen as it dovetails with Singapore's overall plans to
transform the area into a second Central Business District, according to a statement.
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source: http://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/singapore-s-high-speed/1826070.html


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Old June 25th, 2015, 01:00 PM   #373
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In other words link the airport directly to the Pan Asia HSR? Maybe they might consider extending the system in due time but how much more money would be added to the existing budget? Cost/benefit relationship?
Yes. Start HSR at Changi Airport Station, stopover at CBD, maybe another stopover at Jurong East, and take over the causeway into JB. By connecting HSR to the airport, people would be able to transfer to both domestic and international destinations easier, making changi more attractive to land at (Why land at KL when I can land at SG?). Taking it under CBD would also provide for increased capacity and better links to major destinations (JB, Airport, KL).

There is also a huge argument in favour of building another line to ease transport congestion.

SG should be able to find that money easily! Especially if it's sold as increasing MRT capacity too. Two birds with one stone...

It reminds me of a 'large scale' copy of Tokyo's metro system, where low-frequency suburban lines merge into high-frequency MRT lines, providing a high-quality service to both suburban and urban users.

I'm sure there are far more positives to raking it under CBD to airport than I have listed.
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Old August 5th, 2015, 01:34 AM   #374
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A commentary from TODAY on possible ways to fund the project. You can read the full article in the source link below.

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How to fund the Singapore-KL high-speed rail
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PUBLISHED: 4:16 AM, AUGUST 5, 2015


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Old October 7th, 2015, 08:57 AM   #375
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LTA, Malaysia's Land Public Transport Commission launch market sensing exercise for KL-S'pore High Speed Rail
By Nisha Ramchandani OCT 7, 201512:45 PM
http://www.businesstimes.com.sg/tran...e-for-kl-spore



Malaysia's Land Public Transport Commission (SPAD) and Singapore's Land
Transport Authority (LTA) have jointly launched a market sensing exercise
with a request for information (RFI) on the Kuala Lumpur-Singapore High
Speed Rail (HSR). PHOTO: SPH


MALAYSIA'S Land Public Transport Commission (SPAD) and Singapore's Land Transport Authority (LTA) have jointly launched a market sensing exercise with a request for information (RFI) on the Kuala Lumpur-Singapore High Speed Rail (HSR).

Since the HSR was first announced in February 2013, both governments have been working to further develop the project.

The RFI is a consultation exercise to determine market interest in the project and garner opinions from industry players on certain commercial and technical aspects.

The ongoing bilateral discussions and formal tender process will take into account the feedback received.

In a joint statement, Malaysian Minister in the Prime Minister's Department Abdul Wahid Omar and Singapore Coordinating Minister for Infrastructure and Minister for Transport Khaw Boon Wan said: "This market sounding exercise marks a major milestone in our HSR journey. It is important for us to be properly informed of the industry views. We want to use this exercise to gauge market interest in the project and solicit views on different models and approaches. The feedback is crucial in helping us refine and validate our options, which will in turn help ensure a successful tender process subsequently."

The RFI exercise is slated to finish by year-end.

Interested parties should visit SPAD's website (www.spad.gov.my) or LTA's website (www.lta.gov.sg/hsr) for more information.
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News from CNA on the joint exercise. You can read the full article in the source link below.

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Malaysia's Land Public Transport Commission and Singapore's Land Transport Authority have jointly launched a Request for Information exercise on the Kuala Lumpur-Singapore High Speed Rail project.

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News from CNA on the project. You can read the full article in the source link below.

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Malaysia hopes to finalise high speed rail agreement ahead of leaders' retreat
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Malaysia is hopeful that the information gathered from the market sensing exercise jointly undertaken with neighbouring Singapore will help both countries finalise the bilateral agreement in time for signing at the annual leaders' retreat next year.

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UPDATED: 1:00 AM, OCTOBER 16, 2015


KL-Singapore rail project attracts interest of entities in Republic, M’sia and overseas

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News from TODAY. You can read the full article in the source link below.

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Korean consortium among parties interested in HSR
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PUBLISHED: 11:41 PM, OCTOBER 16, 2015
UPDATED: 2:06 AM, OCTOBER 17, 2015


A spokesperson from MOLIT said South Korea has developed the world’s fourth-fastest high-speed train, and that not a single casualty has been caused by rail accidents during the HSR’s 11-year history.

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News from CNA on the joint RFI exercise. You can read the full article in the source link below.

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150 parties express interest in Kuala Lumpur-Singapore high-speed rail project
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These include entities based in Singapore, Malaysia, Asia-Pacific, Europe, Middle East and North America, Malaysia's Land Public Transport Commission and Singapore's Land Transport Authority said in a joint news release on Monday.
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