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Old March 8th, 2013, 04:28 PM   #161
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Enhancing travel in the peninsula
Saturday March 2, 2013
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ALTHOUGH the upcoming high speed rail (HSR) project is hogging the limelight now, there is much more in store when it comes to land transportation. Plans are in the pipeline to enhance urban, inter-city and rural connectivity as set out in the final draft of the National Land Public Transport Masterplan.

Land public transport transformation is situated within the overall national transformation agenda led by the Government Transformation Programme (GTP), Economic Transformation Programme (ETP) and the 10th Malaysia Plan (10MP) all of which aim to realise the socio-economic aspirations of Vision 2020.

These plans seek to support Malaysia's efforts to become an inclusive and sustainable high-income nation by delivering a high-impact land public transport transformation.

Land Public Transport Commission chief executive officer Mohd Nur Kamal says the feedback on the masterplan was good and it has already been approved by National Physical Planning Council.

“Now, the action is to cascade down to the individual states where it will latch onto the economic planning of the states for the next 20 years.

“Our priority is the demand for public transport and the solution must be there. We also need to address current and future growth of each city and in some cases, an improvement in public transport is also needed to regenerate the area,” he tells StarBizWeek.

On the mass rapid transit's (MRT) line two and three, Mohd Nur says feasibility studies are at the final stage now, where they are getting stakeholders feedback and in the process of presenting it to the Government

“Line two and three of the MRT needs to be done,” he says.

According to the masterplan, mobility demands are most intense in city centres with dense population and the focus of the land public transport transformation may be on urban transportation needs involving large-scale infrastructure investments necessary to provide solutions to scale.

“The Greater KL masterplan targets a catchment of 80% of the population within 400m of a public transport service, upon identifying the baseline figure of 63% and the operational challenges that need to be overcome to increase accessibility which is extremely important for that region.

“The development of other regional masterplans should also assess the baseline of land public transport services using appropriate analysis tools and develop plans to achieve stated targets accordingly, in line with their region-specific requirements,” it says.

For example, the cities of Kota Baru, Alor Star, Kuala Terengganu and Kangar and their surrounding regions are the next areas of central importance.

Each city functions as the main administrative, commercial, financial, social and cultural centre for the whole state.

Across these four conurbations, there is a lot of room for improvement in basic land public transport services and infrastructure. The relatively lower capacity demand tempers the need for high-capacity land public transport modes. However, poor service, accessibility and integration remain key themes that inform a set of key focus areas for action.

The masterplan further explains that an integrated land public transport solution across the entire country will necessarily involve multiple stakeholders across different government agencies at federal and state level.

As the national regulator of land public transport, it follows that SPAD will lead the implementation of this masterplan, working closely with other agencies at the federal and local level.

“They will also satisfy the unique demands of the rural areas. As such, these plans will provide response to local issues identified through stakeholder engagement as well as from the state structure plans and district local plans,” says the masterplan.

The economic and demographic developments over the past decades have brought with them increased growth in mobility and connectivity, according to the document.

“The most recent authoritative data from 2008 shows that the land public transport modal share in the Klang Valley has dropped to as low as 10%.

“Needless to say, the immense surge of private vehicular travel, while public transport takes a backseat, has brought on certain negative externalities such as congestion and pollution,” it says.
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What is a cornubation?
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Old March 8th, 2013, 04:41 PM   #163
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What is a cornubation?
A city area containing a large number of people, formed by various towns growing and joining together.

Source : http://dictionary.cambridge.org/dict...sh/conurbation
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A city area containing a large number of people, formed by various towns growing and joining together.

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Not what I was asking
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Old March 18th, 2013, 08:05 AM   #165
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Old March 20th, 2013, 06:20 AM   #166
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KL aims for higher liveable city rank
Published: 2013/03/20
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AMONG THE TARGETS THIS YEAR: Plan to push Greater KL/Klang Valley to No. 75 in Global Liveability Survey

THE Greater Kuala Lumpur/Klang Valley (KL/KV) National Key Economic Area (NKEA) has several critical targets to achieve this year.

For one, it aims to push Greater KL/KV to No. 75 on the liveability index.

In the 2012 Global Liveability Survey, the Economist labelled Kuala Lumpur as the world's 77th most liveable city, up one rank from 2011.

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Old March 20th, 2013, 12:43 PM   #167
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Malaysia certainly is going through a 'brain drain' at the moment. Australia is full of well educated, professional Malaysians (ethnic Chinese) who have left discriminatory laws behind there. Most have to give up their Malaysian citizenship though so I doubt they'll be returning.
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Old March 26th, 2013, 05:06 AM   #168
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High Speed Rail (the next stop after Singapore) - from Singapore to Nusajaya:

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Maglev? Seems a bit risky, seeing it's not been used for a true inter-city route in the past. That's going to push up both construction and ongoing maintenance costs a lot. I don't see the need for a 350-450km/h system for a what is a fairly short run. Any off the shelf TGV, AVE or ICE based solution could be used for a fraction of the price with only marginal differences in travel time.

That said, I'd rather see the priority remain with getting KTMs conventional rail upgraded and expanded.
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Old April 16th, 2013, 02:56 PM   #171
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Can anyone explain the math to me? It appears that with a distance of around 325 km and rail speeds exceeding 350 km/h the trip is expected to take between 1 1/2 and 2 hours? This seems nonsensical. Unless the train is expected to stop five times on the way and/or needs forever to get in and out of the two urban areas?
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Old April 16th, 2013, 09:03 PM   #172
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Can anyone explain the math to me? It appears that with a distance of around 325 km and rail speeds exceeding 350 km/h the trip is expected to take between 1 1/2 and 2 hours? This seems nonsensical. Unless the train is expected to stop five times on the way and/or needs forever to get in and out of the two urban areas?
Seemed odd to me too. I'm guessing that they are factoring in time for clearing immigration/customs. Either that, or the figures may be mixed up with those from other proposals for more conventional HSR proposals.

I don't see realistically how the system could be expected to have five stops. The only logical ones are JB, Malacca and possibly one either at Sepang/KLIA or at Seremban.

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Comparison: Taiwan High Speed Rail.

Distance, end to end as of 2013 - Taibei Station to Zuoying Station - 339 km

Stations now, as of 2013: 8 incl. termini

Train time, all stops: 2:00

Train time, express, 4 stops (2 intermediate): 1:36

Population of whole Taiwan: 23 millions
Population of whole Malaysia: 28 millions
Population of Malaysia and Singapore combined: 33 millions
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Comparison: Taiwan High Speed Rail.

Distance, end to end as of 2013 - Taibei Station to Zuoying Station - 339 km

Stations now, as of 2013: 8 incl. termini

Train time, all stops: 2:00

Train time, express, 4 stops (2 intermediate): 1:36

Population of whole Taiwan: 23 millions
Population of whole Malaysia: 28 millions
Population of Malaysia and Singapore combined: 33 millions
I don't think it is a correct assessment by counting the whole Malaysian population as the KL-SG route is only a small part of Malaysia being covered.



Rightfully, it should be...

Klang Valley = 6 million plus

Negeri Sembilan state = 1 million

Malacca state = About 800,000

Batu Pahat, Johor state = 420,000

Muar, Johor state = 250,000

Johor Bahru, Johor = 1.4 million

Singapore = 5 million plus

Add all these, you get about 15 million people living along the KL-SG high speed rail corridor, which is probably 350 km long.
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Seemed odd to me too. I'm guessing that they are factoring in time for clearing immigration/customs. Either that, or the figures may be mixed up with those from other proposals for more conventional HSR proposals.

I don't see realistically how the system could be expected to have five stops. The only logical ones are JB, Malacca and possibly one either at Sepang/KLIA or at Seremban.
It is in the best interest to include other major Johor towns as the proposed HSR line passes possibly passing through Batu Pahat and Muar. After all these towns currently do not have rail station as the existing KTM line does not cover these two areas.

There is ample transport demand between these towns and towards KL and SG. Batu Pahat population alone is higher than some state capitals in Malaysia.
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It is in the best interest to include other major Johor towns as the proposed HSR line passes possibly passing through Batu Pahat and Muar. After all these towns currently do not have rail station as the existing KTM line does not cover these two areas.

There is ample transport demand between these towns and towards KL and SG. Batu Pahat population alone is higher than some state capitals in Malaysia.
True, I forgot about Batu Pahat. I'm not sure about Muar (unless the proposal is for a mix of express and stopping services?) as it's not that far out from Malacca, so express services would loose a lot of time, but for "slow" services it is a good catch.

For the idea as a whole to be viable though, there really needs to be a KTM Komuter network in JB to provide decent transport to/from the station. It's sad to see the rail system in JB so badly under-used, as the layout is ideal for a 3 line system that would cover much of the city and give HSR a huge catchment area.
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Old April 18th, 2013, 06:13 AM   #177
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SPAD: HSR details being ironed out
By Sharen KaurPublished: 2013/04/18
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KUALA LUMPUR: Details of the high-speed rail (HSR) link between Kuala Lumpur and Singapore are being ironed out and tenders will be called by year-end, the Land Public Transport Commission (SPAD) said.

SPAD chief development officer Azmi Abdul Aziz said the project will take off this year.

"We are waiting for everything to stabilise, such as the general election. It's only after the elections that it will be better for us to move forward.

"Our power limits us to just the Malaysian border. Anything beyond Malaysia we will have to discuss with Singapore.

"To make things happen, the key details have to be there. From next month, we will have more details on how the rail line will be linked between the two countries," Azmi said yesterday.

Malaysia and Singapore in February had in principal agreed to build the HSR link between the two countries, with a target completion date of 2020.

Business Times recently reported that the government is budgeting around RM40 billion for the project, which includes RM10 billion to buy high-speed bullet trains.

Sources familiar with the plan said that both governments are expected to discuss on whether to develop an undersea rail tunnel or an over-sea railway connection.

They also said the line in Malaysia will start from Greater Kuala Lumpur and the final stop would be either in Tuas, central Singapore or somewhere near the Changi International Airport.

The HSR link will have a combination of direct services running non-stop between the two countries, cutting travel time to about 80 minutes or stopping at intermediate stations, which would take around one hour and 45 minutes for each trip.

Based on an initial SPAD study, five new railway stations would be built at Seremban (Negri Sembilan), Ayer Keroh (Malacca), Muar, Batu Pahat and Iskandar Malaysia (all Johor) before heading towards Singapore.

Currently, it takes about eight hours by train, five hours by road and 45 minutes by flight to reach Singapore from Kuala Lumpur.

The HSR project has attracted three proposals from the UEM Group Bhd-Ara Group, YTL Corp Bhd and China Infraglobe-Global Rail Sdn Bhd.

YTL, operator of the KLIA Express, first mooted the idea to build a high-speed rail in the late 1990s and again in 2006.
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Can anyone explain the math to me? It appears that with a distance of around 325 km and rail speeds exceeding 350 km/h the trip is expected to take between 1 1/2 and 2 hours? This seems nonsensical. Unless the train is expected to stop five times on the way and/or needs forever to get in and out of the two urban areas?
The two urban areas will require lower speeds -- maybe 160 km/h or lower.
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The two urban areas will require lower speeds -- maybe 160 km/h or lower.
Precisely. You have to consider environmental issues of high speed running through urban areas, as well as curves (straight lines are best, but are expensive to build). Also HSR services in general do not run for long periods of time at their top speeds. What is important is average speed, as well as braking distance and acceleration, the last two important when discussing services with intermediate stops.
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Precisely. You have to consider environmental issues of high speed running through urban areas, as well as curves (straight lines are best, but are expensive to build). Also HSR services in general do not run for long periods of time at their top speeds.
Example: Shanghai Hongqiao - Nanjing South.

295 km. In urban areas - though mainly suburban.

Fastest trains - 9 nonstop trains, that manage the trip in 1:07. That makes 264 km/h average, with 300 km/h top speed.

Slowest G train takes 2:03, with 5 intermediate stops.
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