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Old November 19th, 2013, 03:22 PM   #561
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Chinese in Shanghai must be very rich having 1000+ skyscrapers in their city.
That's a sign of stupidity, ugliness, poverty, wisdom, beauty, wealth? They earn round 500€ monthly, people in Hamburg 4000.
Btw, after a survey among European business people, the most ugly city in Europe seems to be Warsaw, Poland.
Agree, a terrible city indeed. So, just to underline this fact, they still rise more skyscrapers there, one by one.
Don't understand why you think Warsaw is so ugly. Yes, some of the recent skyscrapers should have been better but when you consider it was one of the most devastated cities during WW2 it is commendable that they have managed to undertake such a lot of restoration and rebuilding of their heritage. Have you visited there recently? I'm not a great fan of a lot of recent ego-centric designs but I think despite the cost, the Elbe Philharmonic will be an iconic landmark for the great city of Hamburg.
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Old November 20th, 2013, 10:24 AM   #562
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Don't understand why you think Warsaw is so ugly. Yes, some of the recent skyscrapers should have been better but when you consider it was one of the most devastated cities during WW2 it is commendable that they have managed to undertake such a lot of restoration and rebuilding of their heritage. Have you visited there recently? I'm not a great fan of a lot of recent ego-centric designs but I think despite the cost, the Elbe Philharmonic will be an iconic landmark for the great city of Hamburg.
don't take Letznickas words too serious. It was just an answer to a stupid comment before ...
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Old December 6th, 2013, 11:02 PM   #563
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Old December 17th, 2013, 01:55 PM   #564
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Old December 29th, 2013, 12:40 AM   #565
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Old December 29th, 2013, 10:58 AM   #566
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The glass looks fantastic, and the building as well huge as very, very fragile.
Probably they will finish the northern side very soon too. Can't wait!
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Old December 29th, 2013, 11:20 AM   #567
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I saw this one a few months ago in person. Of course one can´t judge it completly, because it is still under construction. But the real life experience of seeing it was rather a disappointment. It does not appeal any epic and iconic in real life , IMO.
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Old January 6th, 2014, 11:38 PM   #568
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Final investigation report out now.
Who is responsible for this fiasco?


www.spiegel.de

The newest report about the financial and cost exploding disaster (funniest part: 800€ for toilet brushes... each) shortly summariszed.



2006 - overhasty invitation of tender, with no ready project planning. So only one construction company - HochTief - made an offer, who logically took the cake.

With no ready construction plans surprisingly HochTief took not over the implementation planning. The detail planning remained at the achtitects Herzog & de Meuron, who set up contradictionary plans for the concert hall and other commercial facilities - causing chaotical conditions at the construction plot.
Further the architects continuously missed timetables and deadlines for their planes incresing the chaos.

The realisation corporation of the city was meanwhile runned by incompetent personal. About Hartmut Wegener, chief of the company until 2008 the report says: " leading negociations with no proper expertise but still behaving like a king".
Heribert Leutner, project leader of the realisation corporation even tried to lie with manipulated reports about the situation to the city-governmnent.

The report also accuses the construction company HochTief of fraud and greed, by setting the initial costing unrealistic low and afterwards took advantage of the chaos caused by Herzog & de Meuron and bombarded the incompetend realisation corporation of the city with high additional charges. That was not only the typical low coast calculation to get a project through a parliament, since only a few of the additional charges have been really justified.

Last but not least the former city major Ole von Beust. Guilty in beeing not interested in uncomfortable details. Not acting. Same for his State Council Volkmer Schön

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Old January 19th, 2014, 09:51 PM   #569
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Timelapse

Hi to everyone following this neverending story.

Little to add....except a timelapse movie from the very beginning up to near completion.

We´ll see this thing through!



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Old January 20th, 2014, 01:30 AM   #570
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Really hard to graps how big this project is untill you see it with your own eyes. Damn
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Old February 2nd, 2014, 03:58 PM   #571
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Old February 2nd, 2014, 06:13 PM   #572
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Old February 2nd, 2014, 08:48 PM   #573
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Wonderful pictures.
Thanks for the update.
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Old February 3rd, 2014, 06:54 PM   #574
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Over the Speicherstadt:


That one shows how fantastic the wavelike roof is, even from the front:
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Old February 3rd, 2014, 07:08 PM   #575
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one day this will be the first building people think about, when they hear hamburg. awesome!
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Old February 14th, 2014, 09:45 PM   #576
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Old February 17th, 2014, 02:44 PM   #578
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Old February 17th, 2014, 03:49 PM   #579
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This is two-thirds of a great building. The upper part shows imagination and flair, a real contribution to the world of iconic architecture. As for the bottom, well, it should have been torn down with parking arranged elsewhere, or even better, clad in smoked glass to cover up the parking while maintaining the overall style and design integrity of the building. As is, it really does ruin the look of the project.
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Old February 17th, 2014, 11:34 PM   #580
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Well done Hamburg. And in 5 to 10 years nobody will care about the delays and cost anymore. It will be just there for generations.
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