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Old May 17th, 2009, 11:17 PM   #161
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You know, Hamburg is such a fantastic city, and Hamburg's downtown is probably the most interesting and beautiful one in the World, including the old warehouse (Speicherstadt) and the kontorhaus (Chilehouse+) quarters of course, and the level here in Hamburg and Germany is very high already. But, in short, this and the new Hafencity - this is not the same level. Not nearly.
The problem with the hafencity is, that many inhabitans of Hamburg can't understand, why they do the same mistakes in design again and again. Hamburg certainly has a beuatiful and fantastic downtown, but it is not the most beautifull in the world, just in Germany. See wat is next to the chilehaus. The four ugly grey highrises. See what is next to the michel. The ugly Highrise of Deutscher Ring. What do you see when you look from the deichtorcenter to st.nikolai? The ugly Spiegel Headquarter. And now the do it again. What did they build behind the Elphilhamonie? - The most ugliest buildings in the hafencity, yet - In the tradition of destroying the shape with boring box-bullshit. The maggelan-terassen are the most boring place I have ever seen in Hamburg and by hunting the skaters away they killed the rest of the life of this place. That's Hamburg, too
I love this city and it's downtown, but I don't close my eyes in case of this unlucky shortfalls.

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Old May 18th, 2009, 06:49 PM   #162
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Thank you maja . I know Hamburg from several visits ,its my fav city in GER , my two sisters live there....I think Hafencity is too new to value it..the problem is , its financed by investestors,everything will be felt as sterile by many and cleaned up, no real live they think ... but we will see in the future.
If you ask anybody in Berlin for the Potsdamer platz, at least 50 % will say they hate it (ugly new), if you ask someone ask in Cologne for this Media quarter , also many people will say its ugly, modern , sterile.

Hamburg has several cool ""seedy areas" like Ottensen(Altona), Schanze, Karo, Pauli, St Georg,so Iwill travel again there...
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Old May 18th, 2009, 07:00 PM   #163
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Hamburg has several cool ""seedy areas" like Ottensen(Altona), Schanze, Karo, Pauli, St Georg,so Iwill travel again there...
I had my room in Schanze!!! ... Rosenhofstrasse ... like in Paris ... I'll miss it

"think Hafencity is too new to value it..."
I don't think that's the point. Hafencity could be great as new suburb for Hamburg, as downtown extension not suitable, IMO.

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Old May 18th, 2009, 11:11 PM   #164
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Old May 19th, 2009, 12:10 AM   #165
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Maja: HafenCity as a suburb? C'mon I agree there's not everything goin on as it should, but it certainly is one of the better urban extensions.

Just have a look at the stuff in Überseequartier (Overseas Quarter).
Would you describe this as "suburban"? You've gotta show me that typical suburb, dude
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Old May 20th, 2009, 10:05 PM   #166
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i have seen this building in metropolitan home and thought it looked great. i love the interior, very modern. i bet it would sound great in there too.
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Old May 21st, 2009, 10:27 PM   #167
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Maja: HafenCity as a suburb? C'mon I agree there's not everything goin on as it should, but it certainly is one of the better urban extensions.
agreed


I like the boxy style btw
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Old May 22nd, 2009, 02:34 PM   #168
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I like the boxy style btw
So your favorute is ritter sport, is it
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Old July 4th, 2009, 07:39 PM   #169
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Since www.elbphilharmonie.de has no english link anymore all english speaking people should use

http://elbphilharmonie-bau.de/index_...hp?language=en

or

http://elbphilharmonie-bau.de/index_...hp?language=en

instead for new pictures of the construction site.
There is a nice moveable webcam on the page as well, this is the direct link:

http://62.206.10.222/local/viewer/cam_inner_en.html

and another webcam (with extra widescreen pics from 10am hamburg time) with the rising Elbphilharmonie in the background on the far right:

http://www.hafencity.com/webcam.php?language=en

if someone is interested in facts and pictures about the surrounding new Hafencity area (which you see on the second webcam) this is the right link:

http://www.hafencity.com/index.php?set_language=en

And a nice video about the project from this page is:

http://www.hafencity.de/film.php?id=14&language=en

And one more link: the Überseequartier which has been mentioned above and which is the rising center of Hafencity and close to the elbphilharmonie has an english webpage as well which shows many pictures and a film:

http://www.ueberseequartier.de/

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Old July 4th, 2009, 09:43 PM   #170
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another webcam:


http://www.dwd.de/bvbw/generator/Sit...ty=default.gif
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Old July 4th, 2009, 11:20 PM   #171
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What a grand development! I find the juxtaposition of the brick cladding with the glass to be extremely unique. What an interesting idea, to take a boring unused building indicative of 60's and 70's urban decay and use it as the starting point for something truly new and spectacular, all while maintaining a vital link to the past! This is something that other cities should make a note of.
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Old July 10th, 2009, 07:45 AM   #172
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Current status of the Elbphilharmonie:


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Old July 10th, 2009, 08:04 AM   #173
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What a grand development! I find the juxtaposition of the brick cladding with the glass to be extremely unique. What an interesting idea, to take a boring unused building indicative of 60's and 70's urban decay and use it as the starting point for something truly new and spectacular, all while maintaining a vital link to the past! This is something that other cities should make a note of.

it was done 6 years ago in NYC with the Hearst Tower

anyways, i'm so jealous of this structure, it's beautiful! location is perfect too.
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Old July 10th, 2009, 09:10 PM   #174
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What an interesting idea, to take a boring unused building indicative of 60's and 70's urban decay and use it as the starting point for something truly new and spectacular, all while maintaining a vital link to the past!
Yes, how the times change ...

The new/old Kaispeicher-A storehouse has been handed over to the Hamburg Port Authority on 26th march 1966.

From "Hamburger Abendblatt":

Facts from the article:
storehouse area: 6,000 m²
storehouse volume: 172,000 m³
concrete volume: 20,000 m³
brick walls surface: 3,000 m²
costs: 24,000,000 DM (=12,000,000 Euro) LESS THAN FORESEEN!

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Old July 13th, 2009, 03:30 PM   #176
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As a music lover that has attended several concerts in the beutiful Musikhalle / Laeiszhalle, I'm a little sad to see it go..BUT I really can't wait for this wonderful, groundbreaking new one!

Last time I was in Hamburg , 1 year ago, I went to see the workplace, and I was amazed by the sheer scale of it.

It's so great to see that Germany is still the country where they know that spending money on "real" culture is always worth it.
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next one, shot from a distance greater than 2300 m


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Old July 20th, 2009, 10:45 PM   #179
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Nice pictures, the second one is great. Its nearly the same angle as the two visualisations on page one of this thread.

What a huge mass this building already is, it will look gigantic from that angle when its finally done..
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As a music lover that has attended several concerts in the beutiful Musikhalle / Laeiszhalle, I'm a little sad to see it go..BUT I really can't wait for this wonderful, groundbreaking new one!
What do you mean? Laeiszhalle and Elbphilharmonie will be partner-halls under one director, both concert halls will be active over the whole year, so there is nothing lost at all..
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