MSA to surpass 4 million by 2010?

Backstrom · April 11th, 2007, 05:23 AM

So the next official government census takes place in 3 years. Do you think the metro area can hit 4 million by then? Can't you just see it... Bond?

I think Seattle's at about 3.8-3.9m right now.

pwalker · April 11th, 2007, 05:37 AM

Not 100% about this, but I believe Sea-Tac-Everett-Bremerton is designated as a CMSA, not MSA. (Consolidated Metropolitan Statistical Area). In that case, it would include King, Snohomish, Pierce, and Kitsap counties, and will without a doubt be over 4 mill. in 2010. Probably is already.

Backstrom · April 11th, 2007, 05:39 AM

So would you consider the MSA just to be Seattle-Bellevue? Or Seattle-Tacoma?

pwalker · April 11th, 2007, 06:05 AM

Hmmm...the feds have different definitions on this. I believe the old Seattle MSA was Seattle-Everett (King/Snohomish), but was impractical as a serious definition of the metro area. So the CMSA was designated as the true definition of the metro. So the 4 million figure seems to be about right.

As a media market, which coincides with CMSA figures, Seattle is ranked #13 in the country. Projections will have it at around 5 million by 2020, but probably not gaining rank becuase most of the cities ahead are also growing.

***Bond James Bond*** · April 11th, 2007, 09:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Backstrom

So the next official government census takes place in 3 years. Do you think the metro area can hit 4 million by then? Can't you just see it... Bond?

GO AWAY WE DON'T WANT YOU HERE!!!

There, you wanted me to say it, so I did.

CrazyAboutCities · April 12th, 2007, 02:57 AM

I believe that Seattle metro area will reach about four million people by 2010. I read yesterday at Seattle Times Newspaper that discussed about transportation. He said that Seattle metro area is adding a million residents every decade for now.

tmaxxfreak11 · April 12th, 2007, 03:20 AM

Ehhhh...well the newspapers and such never use the CSA figures. The Seattle CSA will probably pass 4 million by next year...

sequoias · June 23rd, 2007, 12:58 PM

April 1, 2000 CMSA was 3,554,760. The latest CMSA is 3,919,000 so far, that's probably 2005 or 2006 stats. I doubt they added 1 million more in the metro area in a decade, that's the whole Washington state that added that many people. The metro area adds half as many as the state adds people. 1990-2000 CMSA added about 584,432 additional residents.

Realistically, the MSA area is only 2.4 million for 2000 data. It's probably roughly 2.6 million now.

mhays · June 23rd, 2007, 10:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pwalker

Hmmm...the feds have different definitions on this. I believe the old Seattle MSA was Seattle-Everett (King/Snohomish), but was impractical as a serious definition of the metro area. So the CMSA was designated as the true definition of the metro. So the 4 million figure seems to be about right.

As a media market, which coincides with CMSA figures, Seattle is ranked #13 in the country. Projections will have it at around 5 million by 2020, but probably not gaining rank becuase most of the cities ahead are also growing.

It would be seriously shocking if we grew 25% in any decade from now on. This region isn't set up for that kind of growth, with infrastructure and land being the biggest limiting factors.

mhays · June 23rd, 2007, 10:06 PM

The million figure would be for the whole state. That's realistic. I think the most we've ever done in a decade is just under a million.

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April 11th, 2007, 05:23 AM	#1
Backstrom Neanderthal Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 963 Likes (Received): 0	MSA to surpass 4 million by 2010? So the next official government census takes place in 3 years. Do you think the metro area can hit 4 million by then? Can't you just see it... Bond? I think Seattle's at about 3.8-3.9m right now.

April 11th, 2007, 05:37 AM	#2
pwalker Registered User Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Native Seattleite Posts: 1,257 Likes (Received): 3	Not 100% about this, but I believe Sea-Tac-Everett-Bremerton is designated as a CMSA, not MSA. (Consolidated Metropolitan Statistical Area). In that case, it would include King, Snohomish, Pierce, and Kitsap counties, and will without a doubt be over 4 mill. in 2010. Probably is already.

April 11th, 2007, 05:39 AM	#3
Backstrom Neanderthal Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 963 Likes (Received): 0	So would you consider the MSA just to be Seattle-Bellevue? Or Seattle-Tacoma?

April 11th, 2007, 06:05 AM	#4
pwalker Registered User Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Native Seattleite Posts: 1,257 Likes (Received): 3	Hmmm...the feds have different definitions on this. I believe the old Seattle MSA was Seattle-Everett (King/Snohomish), but was impractical as a serious definition of the metro area. So the CMSA was designated as the true definition of the metro. So the 4 million figure seems to be about right. As a media market, which coincides with CMSA figures, Seattle is ranked #13 in the country. Projections will have it at around 5 million by 2020, but probably not gaining rank becuase most of the cities ahead are also growing.

April 12th, 2007, 02:57 AM	#6
CrazyAboutCities Registered User Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Seattle, Washington Posts: 8,328 Likes (Received): 15	I believe that Seattle metro area will reach about four million people by 2010. I read yesterday at Seattle Times Newspaper that discussed about transportation. He said that Seattle metro area is adding a million residents every decade for now.

April 12th, 2007, 03:20 AM	#7
tmaxxfreak11 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Seattle Posts: 340 Likes (Received): 0	Ehhhh...well the newspapers and such never use the CSA figures. The Seattle CSA will probably pass 4 million by next year...

June 23rd, 2007, 12:58 PM	#8
sequoias Registered User Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Midwest US Posts: 1,601 Likes (Received): 0	April 1, 2000 CMSA was 3,554,760. The latest CMSA is 3,919,000 so far, that's probably 2005 or 2006 stats. I doubt they added 1 million more in the metro area in a decade, that's the whole Washington state that added that many people. The metro area adds half as many as the state adds people. 1990-2000 CMSA added about 584,432 additional residents. Realistically, the MSA area is only 2.4 million for 2000 data. It's probably roughly 2.6 million now.

June 23rd, 2007, 10:06 PM	#10
mhays Journeyman Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Seattle Posts: 8,374 Likes (Received): 118	The million figure would be for the whole state. That's realistic. I think the most we've ever done in a decade is just under a million.