VICTORIA QUARTER Projects - Page 2

Nicco · May 4th, 2008, 01:30 PM

oh! and if someone is willing to call the pelago group, and talk to them about it, Im sure they'll be helpful. They once called me back, but I wasnt home lol
email would be even better?
www.pelago.co.nz

EDIT: You have to check the picture of the Innocarchi building out! I just did! It rocks

Would be the BEST midrise building in town...Theres a street level pic in there

SYDNEY · July 25th, 2008, 05:11 AM

This is the miracle that Auckland has been praying for ....

What recession? Developer close to start of $1.3b project
NBR - Friday July 25 2008 - 02:58pm

Former Sydneysider Doug Rikard-Bell has contracts for $40 million in his Rhubarb Lane development on the former Auckland City Council depot site on the CBD's western fringe and is confident he can make the $50 million required to kick the project off. Progressing to development would be unusual in a climate where developers have battened down for survival and finance is almost impossible to find - one of the property's mortgagees is Bridgecorp, which is in receivership. But after talking to a US pension fund since early last year, Mr Rikard-Bell secured it as his major funder early this year and launched a marketing campaign through Kelland's Real Estate five weeks ago. Forty contracts have been signed at an average $1 million each for spaces that may be used as apartments or offices or both, and for retail space.

The site covers nearly 3ha, sloping down from Nelson St toward Victoria Park, with frontages to Wellesley St and Cook St. Mr Rikard-Bell acquired an interest in the property about four years ago (its ownership and loans structure are complicated, with leasehold and freehold interests, and different loan interests originally applied to each kind of holding, but now applied to a combination of both). While the financial complexity is daunting, and the current financial climate means there is no certainty for any development, Mr Rikard-Bell has forged ahead with most unusual design schemes. For a promotional party this week, he outlined the designs of six architects who worked separately on adjoining buildings to be erected in Rhubarb Lane. Each was given parameters such as stud height, total floorspace and the number of floors, and asked to go to.

These are not bunnies - Ian Moore, Patrick Clifford, Fearon Hay, Andrew Barclay at Warren & Mahoney, Pip Cheshire and Chris Kelly from Architecture Workshop. Mr Rikard-Bell asked them not to communicate with each other but to work on their separate designs. They differ extremely - and Mr Rikard-Bell wants them all to be built in the first stage of his project. For Mr Rikard-Bell, the story is not so much about property or even getting good design, but about people. He envisages retailers of fresh produce enhancing the streetscape, live-work spaces which will mean life in the precinct day and night, growth of the western fringe's innovative business element through day-to-day links in an entrepreneurial environment.

The site has consent for 3000 parking spaces, which will be created as a basement beneath new buildings on the 3ha. The first stage, down the hill, will feature eight-storey buildings, with unit prices ranging from 48-300sq m, price tags ranging from $350,000 to $2.5 million plus GST and costs ranging from $6500 to $8500 a square metre. These first 100 units "are not normal residential, not normal commercial - they're really both. We call them Apods," Mr Rikard-Bell said. The second stage is intended to have 153 units, not yet priced. Buildings in that stage, up toward the Nelson St ridge, will be 10 to 11 storeys. In between, Mr Rikard-Bell is intent on creating liveable space - he is determined to see butterflies and birds in the gardens between buildings, and said the buildings could be set in such a way that between two of the largest structures there would be a 100m space.

The first stage is intended to take 30 months from earthworks to completion and the whole project is planned as a development taking less than five years, with a completion value in today's money of about $1.3 billion.

SYDNEY · August 15th, 2008, 04:17 AM

Looks as if Victoria Park Village is still on the drawing board - if so, fannytastic news

Council committee approves Victoria Quarter plan change 1

Published 15 August 2008

Plan change 1 for the Victoria Quarter of the Auckland cbd was approved without discussion yesterday. The recommendation by the Auckland City Council’s city development committee will go to the full council meeting on Thursday 28 August for endorsement and to be made operative. The plan change includes 2 modifications, numbers 31 & 118, as parts of the package.

The Victoria Quarter covers the western part of Auckland’s central area, bounded by Hobson, Fanshawe & Union Sts and Victoria Park. The Environment Court issued a consent order after the council reached agreement with Victoria Park Market’s owner, Kitchener Group Ltd (David Henderson), and 2 other appellants withdrew. One was by Chris Morton, who bought the Drake hotel at the corner of Drake & Vernon Sts, over the road from the market parking building, and the other was by Westridge Property Trustco Ltd (Brian Sutton), which withdrew in June.

SYDNEY · August 20th, 2008, 04:10 AM

BUGGER !

We have to wait another year but at least there is another development for that tacky part of Victoria West Street

Manson defers Viaduct Exchange

Published 19 August 2008

Mansons TCLM Ltd (Ted Manson & sons Culum, Luke & Mac) has put off its 50,000m² Viaduct Harbour project for a year – because, says Culum Manson, the company has more work on its hands than it can cope with in a quieter climate. The Viaduct Harbour development - covering most of the block surrounded by Fanshawe, Halsey, Gaunt & Daldy Sts but excluding the Caltex service station on the Fanshawe-Daldy corner – is to contain 4 buildings in one complex, with 2 levels of basement parking. “We’re building 30,000m² for Telecom and we’re going to start 8000m² at 162 Victoria St West (across the road from the Telecom project).

“Our construction guys are just stretched, so we’ve put Viaduct Exchange on hold for a year. Once we start that it’s a big commitment. We’ve got resource consent and we’re all ready to go. Babcock have just moved out (of the Fanshawe-Halsey Sts corner of the site). “I was quite keen to get it to market – there are big users out there. But we don’t have the capacity or human resources in-house to deal with it.” The family development & construction business has led an extraordinary path of speculative development since it completed redevelopment of the former Northern Roller Mills site between Fort & Shortland Sts in 2005, turning it into the 29-storey 18,700m² Lumley Centre.

That was followed by 20,000m² at Quay Park, the first of its 4-building complexes, which includes GE & the Bank of New Zealand as occupants. The Victoria St development for Telecom is on the site of the former NZ Post mail centre which ran across to Graham St, overlooking Fanshawe St and, for Telecom – looking over competitor Vodafone. NZ Post made way for Telecom by moving out to new premises at Goodman Property Trust’s Highbrook business park. Telecom, in turn, is consolidating, moving out of its Wellington headquarters and also from its Auckland base in the Baker Developments-Sally Aw development off Karangahape Rd, which Amtrust Pacific acquired in 1999.

The Amtrust portfolio was acquired in 2005 by Multiplex Capital, which in turn was acquired last year by Brookfield Asset Management of Toronto, thus leaving Multiplex with the vacancy in the cbd musical chairs. The smaller development across Victoria St from the Telecom project is speculative, on a site currently occupied by parking, next to Les Mills’ World of Fitness.

Neitzsche · August 20th, 2008, 04:28 AM

I think they are referring to the rather bland buildings proposed for the carpark site opposite Vodafone, not Victoria Quarter. Hopefully the extra time will give them a chance to come up with some more inspiring designs. Good news on the other new development opposite telecom. That part of town is in dire need of some attention.

SYDNEY · August 20th, 2008, 05:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neitzsche

I think they are referring to the rather bland buildings proposed for the carpark site opposite Vodafone, not Victoria Quarter. Hopefully the extra time will give them a chance to come up with some more inspiring designs. Good news on the other new development opposite telecom. That part of town is in dire need of some attention.

Yeah that is right ... I placed this article in here as well due to the fact that the area opposite Telecom also falls under Victoria Quarter. It will be great to see that unfinished structure demolished and replaced by something half decent (let's hope that it will be an architectural wonder

) .... okay, only dreaming

Neitzsche · August 20th, 2008, 06:08 AM

Ah, I see. I had it in my head it was just the vicky park site. You never know, we may all be surprised. Dreams are free.

SYDNEY · August 20th, 2008, 09:01 AM

Here's a map of Victoria Quarter and what is planned for the area ...

http://www.aucklandcity.govt.nz/coun...trategymap.pdf

drosophila · October 11th, 2008, 11:38 AM

Any pics of what is planned at 162 victoria street west? That site has been a half demolished site used as a carpark for years now - will be good to see something go up here.

drosophila · October 11th, 2008, 11:39 AM

Also that bridge across the Motorway would be nice - would provide a nice through connection from Ponsonby to the Victoria quarter.

drosophila · October 11th, 2008, 11:41 AM

Okay no good news for that site it will just become a carparking building:

7.2. 162 VICTORIA STREET WEST , AUCKLAND CENTRAL

That Hearings Commissioners Mr G Hill (Chairman), Cr GA Mulholland and Cr F Storer be appointed to determine an application to construct an eight split-level car parking building to provide for 504 staff car parks (commuter car parking).

CARRIED

***Mr_kiwi_fruit*** · October 13th, 2008, 11:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drosophila

Okay no good news for that site it will just become a carparking building:

7.2. 162 VICTORIA STREET WEST , AUCKLAND CENTRAL

That Hearings Commissioners Mr G Hill (Chairman), Cr GA Mulholland and Cr F Storer be appointed to determine an application to construct an eight split-level car parking building to provide for 504 staff car parks (commuter car parking).

CARRIED

That would be this site?

Nicco · October 13th, 2008, 11:27 AM

Holy crap! The western part of the CBD fringe can be quite a dump...Bring on Rhubarb Lane and Victoria Markets...whenever that is!

jarbury · October 13th, 2008, 12:18 PM

Interesting bar development happening in Sale Street: http://www.sale-st.co.nz/

I prepared the resource consent application for this bar. Wonder if that entitles me to lifetime free drinks there.

Neitzsche · October 13th, 2008, 11:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr_kiwi_fruit

That would be this site?

I hope your right. Was walking past that just the other day thinking what a dump of a site it is so close to town.

jarbury · October 13th, 2008, 11:40 PM

Oh yay, more parking buildings.

Ironmanfood · October 14th, 2008, 01:03 AM

I read in the SST that the developer who owns the Victoria Quarter site is selling it, among a few assets they were selling to reduce their debt levels.

drosophila · October 19th, 2008, 12:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr_kiwi_fruit

That would be this site?

Exactly, unfortunately what is currently a carpark will be turned into an even bigger carpark - bit of a shame.

drosophila · October 19th, 2008, 12:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ironmanfood

I read in the SST that the developer who owns the Victoria Quarter site is selling it, among a few assets they were selling to reduce their debt levels.

I don't think this is necessarily the site of Rhubarb lane, the plans for that site are pretty well advanced.

Brojoro · April 18th, 2010, 03:19 AM

Few pics of the Drake Pub taken this morning 18/04, looking very stylish indeed!!...

May 4th, 2008, 01:30 PM	#21
Nicco ****** Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Auckland Posts: 2,682 Likes (Received): 0	oh! and if someone is willing to call the pelago group, and talk to them about it, Im sure they'll be helpful. They once called me back, but I wasnt home lol email would be even better? www.pelago.co.nz EDIT: You have to check the picture of the Innocarchi building out! I just did! It rocks Would be the BEST midrise building in town...Theres a street level pic in there __________________ My Blog

July 25th, 2008, 05:11 AM	#22
SYDNEY NEW ZEALAND Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 24,407 Likes (Received): 959	This is the miracle that Auckland has been praying for .... What recession? Developer close to start of $1.3b project NBR - Friday July 25 2008 - 02:58pm Former Sydneysider Doug Rikard-Bell has contracts for $40 million in his Rhubarb Lane development on the former Auckland City Council depot site on the CBD's western fringe and is confident he can make the $50 million required to kick the project off. Progressing to development would be unusual in a climate where developers have battened down for survival and finance is almost impossible to find - one of the property's mortgagees is Bridgecorp, which is in receivership. But after talking to a US pension fund since early last year, Mr Rikard-Bell secured it as his major funder early this year and launched a marketing campaign through Kelland's Real Estate five weeks ago. Forty contracts have been signed at an average $1 million each for spaces that may be used as apartments or offices or both, and for retail space. The site covers nearly 3ha, sloping down from Nelson St toward Victoria Park, with frontages to Wellesley St and Cook St. Mr Rikard-Bell acquired an interest in the property about four years ago (its ownership and loans structure are complicated, with leasehold and freehold interests, and different loan interests originally applied to each kind of holding, but now applied to a combination of both). While the financial complexity is daunting, and the current financial climate means there is no certainty for any development, Mr Rikard-Bell has forged ahead with most unusual design schemes. For a promotional party this week, he outlined the designs of six architects who worked separately on adjoining buildings to be erected in Rhubarb Lane. Each was given parameters such as stud height, total floorspace and the number of floors, and asked to go to. These are not bunnies - Ian Moore, Patrick Clifford, Fearon Hay, Andrew Barclay at Warren & Mahoney, Pip Cheshire and Chris Kelly from Architecture Workshop. Mr Rikard-Bell asked them not to communicate with each other but to work on their separate designs. They differ extremely - and Mr Rikard-Bell wants them all to be built in the first stage of his project. For Mr Rikard-Bell, the story is not so much about property or even getting good design, but about people. He envisages retailers of fresh produce enhancing the streetscape, live-work spaces which will mean life in the precinct day and night, growth of the western fringe's innovative business element through day-to-day links in an entrepreneurial environment. The site has consent for 3000 parking spaces, which will be created as a basement beneath new buildings on the 3ha. The first stage, down the hill, will feature eight-storey buildings, with unit prices ranging from 48-300sq m, price tags ranging from $350,000 to $2.5 million plus GST and costs ranging from $6500 to $8500 a square metre. These first 100 units "are not normal residential, not normal commercial - they're really both. We call them Apods," Mr Rikard-Bell said. The second stage is intended to have 153 units, not yet priced. Buildings in that stage, up toward the Nelson St ridge, will be 10 to 11 storeys. In between, Mr Rikard-Bell is intent on creating liveable space - he is determined to see butterflies and birds in the gardens between buildings, and said the buildings could be set in such a way that between two of the largest structures there would be a 100m space. The first stage is intended to take 30 months from earthworks to completion and the whole project is planned as a development taking less than five years, with a completion value in today's money of about $1.3 billion. __________________ Connoisseur of Beauty AUCKLAND [FLICKR] AUCKLAND [PBASE]

August 15th, 2008, 04:17 AM	#23
SYDNEY NEW ZEALAND Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 24,407 Likes (Received): 959	Looks as if Victoria Park Village is still on the drawing board - if so, fannytastic news Council committee approves Victoria Quarter plan change 1 Published 15 August 2008 Plan change 1 for the Victoria Quarter of the Auckland cbd was approved without discussion yesterday. The recommendation by the Auckland City Council’s city development committee will go to the full council meeting on Thursday 28 August for endorsement and to be made operative. The plan change includes 2 modifications, numbers 31 & 118, as parts of the package. The Victoria Quarter covers the western part of Auckland’s central area, bounded by Hobson, Fanshawe & Union Sts and Victoria Park. The Environment Court issued a consent order after the council reached agreement with Victoria Park Market’s owner, Kitchener Group Ltd (David Henderson), and 2 other appellants withdrew. One was by Chris Morton, who bought the Drake hotel at the corner of Drake & Vernon Sts, over the road from the market parking building, and the other was by Westridge Property Trustco Ltd (Brian Sutton), which withdrew in June. __________________ Connoisseur of Beauty AUCKLAND [FLICKR] AUCKLAND [PBASE]

August 20th, 2008, 04:10 AM	#24
SYDNEY NEW ZEALAND Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 24,407 Likes (Received): 959	BUGGER ! We have to wait another year but at least there is another development for that tacky part of Victoria West Street Manson defers Viaduct Exchange Published 19 August 2008 Mansons TCLM Ltd (Ted Manson & sons Culum, Luke & Mac) has put off its 50,000m² Viaduct Harbour project for a year – because, says Culum Manson, the company has more work on its hands than it can cope with in a quieter climate. The Viaduct Harbour development - covering most of the block surrounded by Fanshawe, Halsey, Gaunt & Daldy Sts but excluding the Caltex service station on the Fanshawe-Daldy corner – is to contain 4 buildings in one complex, with 2 levels of basement parking. “We’re building 30,000m² for Telecom and we’re going to start 8000m² at 162 Victoria St West (across the road from the Telecom project). “Our construction guys are just stretched, so we’ve put Viaduct Exchange on hold for a year. Once we start that it’s a big commitment. We’ve got resource consent and we’re all ready to go. Babcock have just moved out (of the Fanshawe-Halsey Sts corner of the site). “I was quite keen to get it to market – there are big users out there. But we don’t have the capacity or human resources in-house to deal with it.” The family development & construction business has led an extraordinary path of speculative development since it completed redevelopment of the former Northern Roller Mills site between Fort & Shortland Sts in 2005, turning it into the 29-storey 18,700m² Lumley Centre. That was followed by 20,000m² at Quay Park, the first of its 4-building complexes, which includes GE & the Bank of New Zealand as occupants. The Victoria St development for Telecom is on the site of the former NZ Post mail centre which ran across to Graham St, overlooking Fanshawe St and, for Telecom – looking over competitor Vodafone. NZ Post made way for Telecom by moving out to new premises at Goodman Property Trust’s Highbrook business park. Telecom, in turn, is consolidating, moving out of its Wellington headquarters and also from its Auckland base in the Baker Developments-Sally Aw development off Karangahape Rd, which Amtrust Pacific acquired in 1999. The Amtrust portfolio was acquired in 2005 by Multiplex Capital, which in turn was acquired last year by Brookfield Asset Management of Toronto, thus leaving Multiplex with the vacancy in the cbd musical chairs. The smaller development across Victoria St from the Telecom project is speculative, on a site currently occupied by parking, next to Les Mills’ World of Fitness. __________________ Connoisseur of Beauty AUCKLAND [FLICKR] AUCKLAND [PBASE]

August 20th, 2008, 09:01 AM	#28
SYDNEY NEW ZEALAND Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 24,407 Likes (Received): 959	Here's a map of Victoria Quarter and what is planned for the area ... http://www.aucklandcity.govt.nz/coun...trategymap.pdf __________________ Connoisseur of Beauty AUCKLAND [FLICKR] AUCKLAND [PBASE]

August 20th, 2008, 04:28 AM	#25
Neitzsche Random Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Auckland Posts: 777 Likes (Received): 2	I think they are referring to the rather bland buildings proposed for the carpark site opposite Vodafone, not Victoria Quarter. Hopefully the extra time will give them a chance to come up with some more inspiring designs. Good news on the other new development opposite telecom. That part of town is in dire need of some attention.

August 20th, 2008, 06:08 AM	#27
Neitzsche Random Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Auckland Posts: 777 Likes (Received): 2	Ah, I see. I had it in my head it was just the vicky park site. You never know, we may all be surprised. Dreams are free.

October 11th, 2008, 11:38 AM	#29
drosophila Registered User Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 3,495 Likes (Received): 3	Any pics of what is planned at 162 victoria street west? That site has been a half demolished site used as a carpark for years now - will be good to see something go up here.

October 11th, 2008, 11:39 AM	#30
drosophila Registered User Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 3,495 Likes (Received): 3	Also that bridge across the Motorway would be nice - would provide a nice through connection from Ponsonby to the Victoria quarter.

October 11th, 2008, 11:41 AM	#31
drosophila Registered User Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 3,495 Likes (Received): 3	Okay no good news for that site it will just become a carparking building: 7.2. 162 VICTORIA STREET WEST , AUCKLAND CENTRAL That Hearings Commissioners Mr G Hill (Chairman), Cr GA Mulholland and Cr F Storer be appointed to determine an application to construct an eight split-level car parking building to provide for 504 staff car parks (commuter car parking). CARRIED

October 13th, 2008, 11:27 AM	#33
Nicco ****** Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Auckland Posts: 2,682 Likes (Received): 0	Holy crap! The western part of the CBD fringe can be quite a dump...Bring on Rhubarb Lane and Victoria Markets...whenever that is!

October 14th, 2008, 01:03 AM	#37
Ironmanfood Registered User Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 230 Likes (Received): 0	I read in the SST that the developer who owns the Victoria Quarter site is selling it, among a few assets they were selling to reduce their debt levels.

April 18th, 2010, 03:19 AM	#40
Brojoro brojoro Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Auckland Posts: 774 Likes (Received): 8	Drake Pub Extension Few pics of the Drake Pub taken this morning 18/04, looking very stylish indeed!!...

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